How I will build my own oil cooler for my TE511

[Xcuvator]

I will hook a clear tube to the hose barb and run it to the roof of my house to see what kind of pressure it puts out I will figure out a way to transfer the heat out of the oil after a pressure and flow test. Maybe pump the oil into the swing arm or frame .

I'm not sure running the hose to the roof will tell you the effective pressure, because we don't know (for sure) if there will be any back pressure in the return?? Or will you have your return plumbed and tee off to the roof line? If that's the case, why not tee in a pressure gauge instead of the "roof line". In either case, why not just use a pressure gauge and skip the roof line?

 

[tonskiguy]

I hope that JB Weld holds, because there is not much left of those rivets. I guess if it pumps oil as desired, you could look into a better fastener. Maybe reverse countersink the holes and install some reduced head countersunk titanium Hi-Locks. Good luck!
http://www.hi-shear.com/standards/hl11.pdf

 

[Huskynoobee]

The main concern I would consider is that the amount/pressure of oil being returned to the crankcase. In the 80's my Dad put an oil cooler on his tricked out Sportster. It was not home brew actually a Harley catalog item.

The problem was that it would not return enough back to the oil tank because of latent pressure loss through the lines and cooler. After some fiddling he took it off and sold it. He had too much into the big jugs, dual plug heads, big cams, etc. to chance starving the motor of sufficient oil.

I know you are not quite that far along, but something to keep in mind.

Keep us posted.

 

[oregonsage]

Tinken said: ↑

When's test time?​

Who really wants to know ? Ty ? hee hee

I think we all want to know, or at least hear the results............

 

[Rearwheelin]

I hope that JB Weld holds, because there is not much left of those rivets. I guess if it pumps oil as desired, you could look into a better fastener. Maybe reverse countersink the holes and install some reduced head countersunk titanium Hi-Locks. Good luck!
http://www.hi-shear.com/standards/hl11.pdf

I might need to look into thoughs rivets after the test , thanks for the link !

 

[Motosportz]

Rear, the pop rivits must go, They are not strong enough for this. The centers will loosen up and fall into your case/tornado.

thats my fear as well.

 

[Rearwheelin]

I don't see that as a real issue, there's a nice pool of oil up there for start up and it will only take a split second longer to get oil up there than it would with just the hose that's there. I'm thinking something like this.

I'm thinking a heat exchanger that splices into the left radiator hose . Cooled coolant returning to the radiator pump would be most ideal to me and well protected from rocks and tree limbs. Yes that is a Tinken idea

 

[Motosportz]

I voted that i don't think it will pump and thats mainly because there is the same crank case pressure at both ends. If the hose went into a bucket and was not subjected to equalizing crank case pressure i feel you would get a little flow but maybe not enough. Waiting on results.

 

[benwiggin2]

 

[Rearwheelin]

Test 1 , flow

View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bLs-cazbO0&feature=youtube_gdata_player




Test 2 , flow to above filler cap

View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlkPbrTjZ44&feature=youtube_gdata_player

 

[James Patton]

You go dude!!!

 

[Motosportz]

Shit I was wrong. Kinda. I think your just seeing crankcase pressure there and once you tie it back into the motor not be flow. Get a clear tube and hook it to your oil fill cap. Keep going.

 

[OlderHuskyRider]

,,,,,, I think your just seeing crankcase pressure there and once you tie it back into the motor not be flow. ,,,,,,,.

Yep, that's why it's pulsating/spurting.

 

[Rearwheelin]

I think your just seeing crankcase pressure there and once you tie it back into the motor not be flow.

Maybe , I am running 2 vents. Here is my breather line


I will do a test running line to the filler cap next .

 

[Rearwheelin]

Yep, that's why it's pulsating/spurting.

You guys are correct . I ran a clear line to the filler cap and oil movement was very marginal . Not worth running to a cooler

On the up side I was able to verify that loads of oil circulate threw the cover. In test one I pumped 200cc in a very short time. Time for my back up plan..... Now I want to turn the clutch cover its self into a heat exchanger .

 

[Huskynoobee]

What do they put in your water out there? You are a machine Rear!

 

[Radar]

You guys are correct . I ran a clear line to the filler cap and oil movement was very marginal . Not worth running to a cooler

On the up side I was able to verify that loads of oil circulate threw the cover. In test one I pumped 200cc in a very short time. Time for my back up plan..... Now I want to turn the clutch cover its self into a heat exchanger .

I like a heat sink on the clutch cover and maybe a fan. Cool, or cooler.

 

[Tinken]

Sorry you had to pay $40 for a drill bit. I changed the vents for sale on the Zipty website to include stepped drill bits for our cost of the bit (roughly 6 dollars). I'm happy to hear installation went well. If I may make a suggestion, it would be to cap off your original case vent, you really don't want blow by gasses to pass through that location. Also, the hole in your case cover would be an excellent place to return cooled breather oil instead of the fill cap.

 

[Rearwheelin]

Also, the hole in your case cover would be an excellent place to return cooled breather oil instead of the fill cap.

The return hole works really good . I let several feet of clear hose fill with oil and when I lifted it vertically it went right in ! Lol.... Since I have the cover all modded now I might wrap some brass tubbing around the cover and divert a radiator line to it.. JB weld is a great conductor of heat. Pleanty more JB weld on the next go around ! Ha ha

 

[McKay]

What do they put in your water out there? You are a machine Rear!

Crude, good ole Bako' crude!