What is your Spoofer Plug experience?

Discussion in 'TR650' started by Ogre_fl, Nov 21, 2014.

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Your spoofer experecne

Adapted in less than 1000 miles 9 vote(s) 24.3%
Adapted in less than 3000 miles 6 vote(s) 16.2%
Adapted in less than 5000 miles 0 vote(s) 0.0%
No signs of adapting in less than 3000 miles 8 vote(s) 21.6%
No signs of adapting in less than 5000 miles 3 vote(s) 8.1%
No signs of adapting in over 5000 miles 11 vote(s) 29.7%
  1. engineerk9 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Narrabeen
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    Kawasaki ZRX1100

    I did, as soon as I understood & measured the airbox temperature, the cable needs to be extended, 2 wires, soldered, heat-shrink etc, I'll post a photo later
  2. engineerk9 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Narrabeen
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    Kawasaki ZRX1100

    Yes l have see photo 20150219_131959.jpg
    Coltx and LED like this.
  3. engineerk9 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Narrabeen
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    Kawasaki ZRX1100
    Whoops on it's side

    The other is $2 clear plastic fuel filter from Autobarn, l use as the crankcase vent, the bowl faces downwards, any oil will drain back into the crankcase
    Quite a bit of air pressure is noted at the outlet
  4. engineerk9 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Narrabeen
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    Kawasaki ZRX1100

    20150219_132023.jpg

    Red heat-shrink
  5. engineerk9 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Narrabeen
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    Kawasaki ZRX1100
    20150219_132047.jpg

    The 11 ohm resistor stows above the frame rail, out of the way
  6. engineerk9 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Narrabeen
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    Kawasaki ZRX1100
    I've been seriously testing the 11 ohm resistor inseries with the re-posistioned AIT
    With what l thought reasonable results, nearly 30 litres of 98RON consumed
    Then suddenly the engine started to vibrate & really not well
    Aha, l thought the ecu has done it's adapt out
    Today l took the Safari tanks off
    What did l find?
    Both Head frame bolts had come loose !
    Fortunately the RH Safari tank had prevented the bolt being lost
    Tomorrow another Dyno run to see if performance has settled or the ecu has adapted out

    I'm testing the AIT, it doesn't appear to be linear, at "normal" ambient temperatures
    LED likes this.
  7. GrumpyShamurai Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    76 XL350 - 74 XL125 - 07 FZ1

    I was thinking more on the lines of this.

    [IMG]

    Actually tapping into the intake hose to get true intake temps.
  8. engineerk9 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Narrabeen
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    Kawasaki ZRX1100

    Possibly un-necessarily complex
  9. Mark_H Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Lapu Lapu Cebu Philippines
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TR 650 Strada; 2015 Nuda 900R
    Other Motorcycles:
    Honda XRM 125, Kawasaki Curve 115

    My final 'fix' on the AIT Sensor story is to extend the wires and have the sensor in the air intake box - It lies in the lower part of the box quite nicely with the wires fed in through the drain hole at the rear of the intake.

    mini-IMG_1588.JPG

    With the sensor in this position it measures pretty close to the real temperature of the air entering the engine, particularly at higher running speeds.
    I then have my $1 Variable Resistor Spoofer wired in and the whole thing works a treat - I can have real air temp or spoofed as much as I like to make the bike run well.

    Remember to plug the original AIT Sensor hole with something that can not be drawn up into the airbox - I used a replacement rubber chair leg foot, having bought a pack of four for another $1, this is becoming an expensive mod :D
    Coltx and engineerk9 like this.
  10. Roger 04 RT Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 (friend's)
    Other Motorcycles:
    2004 BMW R1150RT
    Looks like a very good way to measure the temperature of the air as it enters the cylinders.
  11. uptwolait Husqvarna
    C Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Strada
    Other Motorcycles:
    2005 BMW R1200GS, 1972 BMW R60/5

    VFORCEJOHN... If you are still hanging around this forum, I recently acquired a 2013 TR650 Strada from a friend and it has all of the stock problems with stumbling off idle, etc. Are you still in the business of helping folks like me figure out what's needed with the PC5 and maps to get this thing running in top shape? Many, many thanks...!!
  12. glitch_oz Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    AUS
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Strada
    There hasn't been anyone playing around with PCs/ spoofers etc since the ECU upgrades following the official recall.
    Contact your nearest KTM dealer with your VIN number to check if your ECU has been upgraded or not.
    Which country are you in?
    PaulC likes this.
  13. VFORCEJOHN Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    14 Husqvarana TR650
    Other Motorcycles:
    bmw g450x
    Yes I am. I've been trying to reflash this ECM. the PCV like all the spoofers, after time it goofs up. I've dynoed, mapped, datalogged and mapped. split tuned between gears. and eventually it runs crappy again. THen it runs great again.

    heres where I'm at. I need pinout connections to read this with a bench flash like KTAG. I've spent DAYS AND DAYS trying. heres where my research has stopped.

    with ECM access. Immobilizer goes off, and we tune it properly with proper lambda targets. this shouldnt be as hard as it is. however I seem to choose all the machines that are impossible and have been discontinued.

    I'll keep trying. I know no one that can flash these.

    any help anyone can assist with. PLEASE email me Vforcejohn@yahoo.com
    husqvarna marelli ecu opened and labeled.jpg husqvarna marelli ecu opened and labeled backside .jpg husqvarna marelli ecu label.jpg
  14. uptwolait Husqvarna
    C Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Strada
    Other Motorcycles:
    2005 BMW R1200GS, 1972 BMW R60/5

    Thanks for the reply. After deciding I am in no way capable of going down the road you're trying with the stock ECM, I bought a Power Commander and Autotune module. However, I'm at a total loss on how to access the connectors around the throttle body to plug in the kit, short of disassembling the entire subframe and removing the fuel tank... which of course is where everything in the kit is supposed to be mounted. Any tips?