RUMOR CONTROL CLOWN BIKE OPTION?? 300 extra????

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  1. Colo moto CH Sponsor

    Location:
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    7602racing.com

    I must have it all wrong. I could swear that mx was introduced to the US by Edison Dye and his European stars riding huskys. Motocross was quite literally started in the US by husky.
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  2. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
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    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    The CTS and airbox as well as the engine are all reasons I like the bike and wanted to see evolution of the effort. To me it sucks it is gone. I will end up with a TC449 some day too. What would have been cool to see is if they had dropped weight via a frame redesign, use part of the new frame as a oil cell for more capacity, simplified and lightened the plastic, change the airbox design to use a screw on filer but still same location, and put a taller 6th in it. The motor, short of the oil deal is very nice in stock TXC form. This would be a fantastic bike to me. Top level race bike? No idea. Really like that the air filter stays clean forever (not sitting un churned up silt by the back wheel), the power of the motor, the reliability of the motor, the upside down linkage with zerks, the ergonomics (lanky and smooth). Rear fuel tank is funky but really has not bothered me. Bike gets good mileage so not messing with that every ride. I like the long seat. For me this bike is a step forward in many ways just needs evolution like any effort.
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  3. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many

    Sorry, yes your right I mean modern mega buck industry MX which I think he was alluding to.

    here is the list, were some of these in the US?

    Motocross
    1959 - Rolf Tibblin, European Motocross Champion, 250 cc class.
    1960 - Bill Nilsson, Motocross World Champion, 500 cc class.
    1962 - Rolf Tibblin, Motocross World Champion, 500 cc class.
    1962 - Torsten Hallman, Motocross World Champion, 250 cc class.
    1963 - Rolf Tibblin, Motocross World Champion, 500 cc class.
    1963 - Torsten Hallman, Motocross World Champion, 250 cc class.
    1966 - Torsten Hallman, Motocross World Champion, 250 cc class.
    1967 - Torsten Hallman, Motocross World Champion, 250 cc class.
    1969 - Bengt Aberg, Motocross World Champion, 500 cc class.
    1970 - Bengt Aberg, Motocross World Champion, 500 cc class.
    1974 - Heikki Mikkola, Motocross World Champion, 500 cc class.
    1976 - Heikki Mikkola, Motocross World Champion, 250 cc class.
    1979 - Håkan Carlquist, Motocross World Champion, 250 cc class.
    1993 - Jacky Martens, Motocross World Champion, 500 cc class.
    1998 - Alessio Chiodi, Motocross World Champion, 125 cc class
    1999 - Alessio Chiodi, Motocross World Champion, 125 cc class
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  4. Norman Foley Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Trumansburg, NY... The Beautiful, Finger Lakes
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    82 250WR 86 250WR 93 WXE350 03 TE610
    Other Motorcycles:
    '85 Fantic 300 '12 HUSABERG TE250
    I think you hurt Kent Howerton's feelings dude.....

    [IMG]
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  5. Motosportz CH Sponsor

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    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    This says he didn't. :) Not arguing I dont know anything about any of this just googled to whats up when you posted that. Good read.

    http://www.motorcyclemuseum.org/asp/museum/exhibits/mx/history3.asp
  6. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    and more recently Travis Preston and Steve Lamson. Not sure any of these efforts saved husky :D
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  7. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    these guys have been busy

    Baja 1000

    1967 - J.N. Roberts, Malcolm Smith
    1969 - Gunnar Nilsson, J.N. Roberts
    1971 - Malcolm Smith, Gunnar Nilsson
    1972 - Gunnar Nilsson, Rolf Tibblin
    1973 - Mitch Mayes, A.C. Bakken
    1976 - Larry Roeseler, Mitch Mayes
    1977 - Brent Wallingsford, Scot Harden
    1978 - Larry Roeseler, Jack Johnson
    1979 - Larry Roeseler, Jack Johnson
    1981 - Scot Harden, Brent Wallingsford
    1983 - Dan Smith, Dan Ashcraft

    Enduro

    1990 - 350 cc World Enduro Championship
    1991 - 250 cc World Enduro Championship
    1992 - 350 cc World Enduro Championship
    1993 - 125 cc World Enduro Championship
    1993 - 350 cc World Enduro Championship
    1994 - 125 cc World Enduro Championship
    1994 - 500 cc World Enduro Championship
    1995 - 125 cc World Enduro Championship
    1995 - 500 cc World Enduro Championship
    1996 - 350 cc World Enduro Championship
    1998 - 500 cc World Enduro Championship
    1999 - 500 cc World Enduro Championship
    2000 - 250 cc World Enduro Championship
    2001 - 125 cc World Enduro Championship
    2001 - 400 cc World Enduro Championship
    2001 - 500 cc World Enduro Championship
    2002 - 125 cc World Enduro Championship
    2002 - 250 cc World Enduro Championship
    2002 - 500 cc World Enduro Championship
    2003 - 400 cc World Enduro Championship
    2010 - E1 World Enduro Championship with Antoine Méo
    2011 - E1 World Enduro Championship with Juha Salminen
    2011 - E2 World Enduro Championship with Antoine Méo

    Supermoto

    2005 - Gérald Delepine, SM1 World Supermoto Championship
    2007 - Adrien Chareyre, SM1 World Supermoto Championship
    2007 - Gérald Delepine, SM2 World Supermoto Championship
    2008 - Adrien Chareyre, SM2 World Supermoto Championship
    2009 - Adrien Chareyre, SM2 World Supermoto Championship
  8. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    Then pooooof

    Acquisition by KTM

    On 31 January 2013 BMW Group announced that Pierer Industrie AG bought Husqvarna for an undisclosed amount. The company is headed by Stephan Pierer (CEO of KTM). Pierer Industrie AG is 51% owner of KTM and 100% owner of Husqvarna.[1]

    On 1st October 2013, Husqvarna Motorcycles GmbH is created, based at Mattighofen in Austria, and a subsidiary of KTM AG, holding at the head of KTM Sportmotorcycle AG and Husqvarna Motorcycles Gmbh.

    On 11 October 2013, production starts at Mattighofen. We can read on Husqvarna's website : "The recently accomplished acquisition of the motorcycle brand Husqvarna by the KTM Group will bring a further upgrade to the production site in Mattighofen (Upper Austria). The Members of the Board of KTM AG, as well as the staff of the main plant followed with great pleasure the production of the first Husqvarna that was assembled in Mattighofen. KTM CEO Stefan Pierer explains the corporate strategy as follows: “By the acquisition of the brand Husqvarna, the KTM Group expects an additional growth of approximately 15,000 motorcycles in the next few years.”


    this jumped out at me...

    "the KTM Group expects an additional growth of approximately 15,000 motorcycles in the next few years"

    Husky was selling near that without all the KTM money and advertising. Seems projections of actual added sales would have been 2 or 3 fold.
  9. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    One year then went to Suzuki.

    Howerton would win the 500cc AMA Motocross National Championship in 1976 for Husqvarna

    My response was to Rays comment about having to have a big MX race bike and team to survive. I'm not sure thats true. Some manufacturers are actually scaling back race programs as it is not cost beneficial. Its all about scale too. KTM is huge and has a expensive MX/SX race program. Beta is smaller but still seems "successful" and moving forward without any SX/MX program at all. I think husky in the right hands could have done the same, maybe better. huge like KTM? Maybe not. Financially successful and building cool bikes? Sure. All that said this is a tough biz. KTM itself was ont he bring not long ago.

    All good, does not change my life :>) Ride on brothers.
  10. Huskynoobee CH Sponsor ZipTy Racing

    Location:
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    SP SEZ..."Don't you zee? Zis is vy I buy das schtickas! I buy past, zen I trow out zee baby vith das bathwasser ya"

    "I put zee schtickas on mine cycles und claim zat zay are same as before, but betta ya?"
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  11. LandofMotards Moderator

    Location:
    Colorado
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2014 TC250
    Sherco has a MXGP team don't they?
  12. Colo moto CH Sponsor

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    I agree. I don't think having a high power mx/sx team is synonymous with success. In the us mx gets the most exposure of all off road disciplines but that doesn't mean the rest of the world is the same. Us Suzuki has one of the biggest names in sx with James Stewart. Before that they had dungey and earlier Carmichael. They should be in a strong position but they are a happy meal away from going under.

    Beta has one semi we'll known rider and they can't grow fast enough. Not everyone sees mx as the pinnacle of racing.
  13. typeone Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    central MA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    07 TC270 + 09 WR165
    Other Motorcycles:
    08 X4 146 + 13 250RR

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  14. Norman Foley Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Trumansburg, NY... The Beautiful, Finger Lakes
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    82 250WR 86 250WR 93 WXE350 03 TE610
    Other Motorcycles:
    '85 Fantic 300 '12 HUSABERG TE250
    Lamson and Preston are loathe to admit they rode Huskys.... Howerton's championship was by force of will, on an outclassed machine and not Factory domination.
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  15. robertaccio Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    San Diego, Ca
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 Husqvarna TE300i
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 HusqvarnaTE610, 94 Husaberg FC501
    Steve and Travis' bikes? those were Cagivas............
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  16. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    I actually laughed out loud. What a mess. Funny man.
  17. oregonsage 4st Clerk

    Location:
    Dry Washington
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    FX450
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yamaha DT400 x 2, BMW G310R
    Dude, I cant believe you ignored...
    Chuck Sun
    • #1 NW Motocross Series

    • 1978 National Trans-USA 250 Champion Husqvarna Motorcycles

    He also won a National Championship....on a Honda.

    Another outlier, but you cant be from the northwest and not connect Sun and Husky, anymore than you can mention Bultaco but not Pomeroy!!

    In reality I saw more CZs and Maicos on MX tracks than Huskys. They led the way, but dominated the desert, not the tracks.
  18. XLEnduroMan Heroes Ride Huskys. The others follow.

    Location:
    Durham, CA.
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '18 Husqvarna 701 Enduro.
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    '20 Ducati Hypermotard 950.
    It's a 2T, you gotta be on the pipe to get to the power. Pedal to the medal.
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  19. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
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    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many

    Oh i was. This was in high school and a buddy of mine that worked hucking bails with me and I found the saab and two original mimi coopers in a out building on the farm. Asked the owner whats up with them and if we could play with them. He said sure. We got the Saab and one mini running and would rally them around the farm, super fun. There was another old Saab there we got running too. The saab had some crazy linked suspension where the front and back were tied together hydraulically. It actually worked fantastic across rough fields and such. The evenings would often times end up in a rally race around the farm with a mile high cloud of dust and 2 stroke smoke. Fun.
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  20. oregonsage 4st Clerk

    Location:
    Dry Washington
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    FX450
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yamaha DT400 x 2, BMW G310R

    I actually knew a guy who put his SAAB 2 stroke into a boat....pulled 6 teenage waterskiiers !!!
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