Rear linkage bearings/bushes

Discussion in '610/630' started by BiG DoM, Jan 29, 2014.

  1. BiG DoM Husqvarna
    AA Class

    I got to checking the rear linkage bearings after noticing some lateral play when up on a lift - interestingly if high up the shock extended and the play was not really easily noticeable and likewise if completely down ... but if just a little pressure taken off back wheel then was very noticeable. In removing them I was at first pleasantly surprised that they still seemed reasonably well greased but then the one lower one had wear on the inner bush and had clearly had water ingress. I had hoped I could just regrease but sadly not. So looks like I will be doing them all - probably with a Pivot Works kit.

    I was surprised that the lateral play seemed to be built in - ie it was not there due to wear and also cannot be taken up through adjustment/torquing the bolts (on the two main ones anyway). Has anyone else replaced these bearings and found the same lateral/side to side play in these bearings? It is as if the internal bushing is too long? (no evident wear on the seal and spacer). It is as if they are designed this way???

    Anyone bought a Pivot Works or All Balls kit - struggling to see them listed. Is the TE511 the same?
  2. SimpleOne Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Sydney, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE 630
    Other Motorcycles:
    09 ZX-6R Trackbike
    Be interesting to know, I was looking at them today and just pumped them full of EP grease, but I'm going to be replacing my swingarm pivot bearings due to some play. I couldn't really decide if I was seeing play in the suspension linkage or not...
  3. BiG DoM Husqvarna
    AA Class

    While I was at it I pulled the swingarm and guess what they are also shagged - no play but muddy inside on the one side and going like putty on the drive side and gudgeons rusted! Lucky as I almost left them alone. Only bearings that were OK were the upper linkage dogs bone ones.
  4. justpinit Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Maryland
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2012 wr 300
    Other Motorcycles:
    93 kx 125 with a kdx 200 engine.
    Have to stay on top of them, i pull mine apart every 3 months.
  5. BiG DoM Husqvarna
    AA Class

    There is not a bearing kit from All Balls, Pivot Works or Pyramid Pats for the linkages (and only All Balls seems to have for the swing arm) of the 610/630. To by all the OEM parts separately is two to three times more expensive! Looks like I may be able to source the bearings and seals separately but the gudgeon bushings is another story. Has anyone solved this problem? Anyone know if the kit for other Husky models would fit the 610? I seem to think so but would be nice not to have to be the guinea pig!
  6. WickedWill Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    QLD,AU
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE630
    Other Motorcycles:
    some little red ones
    Is this the bush on swingarm?
    Part number: 800083904
    Description: BUSH 27.5X17X45

    Husqvarna TE E DUAL PURPOSE - SM S 610 2006
    Husqvarna TE-SM IE 610 2009
    Husqvarna TE-SMS 630 2010
    Husqvarna TE E, TE E LT, SM 610 1998
    Husqvarna TE-SMS 630 2011
    Husqvarna TE E 410 1999
    Husqvarna TE-SM IE 610 2008
    Husqvarna TE E DUAL PURPOSE - SM S IE 610 2007
    Husqvarna TE E DUAL PURPOSE - SM S 610 2005
    Husqvarna TE E DUAL PURPOSE - SM S 610 2004
    Husqvarna TE E DUAL PURPOSE - SM S 610 2003
    Husqvarna TE E, TE E LT, SM 610 1999
    Husqvarna TE 410E-610E TE 610E-LT SM 610S 2000
    SWING ARM



    wristpin on linkage
    Part number: 8D0086176
    Description: WRIST PIN
    Husqvarna TE-SM IE 610 2009
    Husqvarna TE 400-570 SM 570R 2001
    Husqvarna TE-SM IE 610 2008
    Husqvarna TE 410-610 TC 610 2000
    Husqvarna SMR R 570 2004
    Husqvarna TE-SMS 630 2011
    Husqvarna TE E DUAL PURPOSE - SM S 610 2006
    Husqvarna TE E DUAL PURPOSE - SM S 610 2005
    Husqvarna SMR SEEL REPLICA 630 2004
    Husqvarna TE - SMR 570 2003
    Husqvarna TE- TC-SM 570R 2002
    Husqvarna TE E DUAL PURPOSE - SM S IE 610 2007
    Husqvarna TE - SMR 570 2004
    Husqvarna SMR SEEL REPLICA 630 2003
    Husqvarna TE-SMS 630 2010


    wristpin on linkage
    Part number: 800086176
    Description: WRIST PIN 22X15X50.4
    Husqvarna TE-TC 250-450 SMR 450 2004
    Husqvarna WR-CR 125 2003
    Husqvarna TE-SM IE 610 2008
    Husqvarna WR-CR 125 2004
    Husqvarna TE R 510 2004
    Husqvarna WR-CR 250 2000
    Husqvarna TE-TC 250-450 SMR 450 2003
    Husqvarna SMR SEEL REPLICA 630 2004
    Husqvarna WR-CR 125 2007
    Husqvarna TE-TC-SMR 250-450-510 2006
    Husqvarna TE CENTENNIAL 510 2004
    Husqvarna TE - SMR 570 2004
    Husqvarna SMR SEEL REPLICA 630 2003
    Husqvarna SM 450 RR 2006
    Husqvarna WR-CR 125 2005
    Husqvarna WR 250 2005
    Husqvarna TE 400-570 SM 570R 2001
    Husqvarna WR-CR 125 2005
    Husqvarna WR-CR 250 2003
    Husqvarna WR 250-360 - CR 250 2002
    Husqvarna WR 250-300 2011
    Husqvarna WR-CR 250 2004
    Husqvarna SMR R 570 2004
    Husqvarna TE E DUAL PURPOSE - SM S 610 2005
    Husqvarna WR-CR 125 2000
    Husqvarna WR 250-300 2010
    Husqvarna TE-TC-SMR 250-450-510 2007
    Husqvarna TE E DUAL PURPOSE - SM S IE 610 2007
    Husqvarna TE-TC-SMR 250-450-510 2005
    Husqvarna WR-CR 250 1999
    Husqvarna WR-CR 125 2006
    Husqvarna WR 250 2006
    Husqvarna WR 250-300 2009
    Husqvarna TE-SM IE 610 2009
    Husqvarna WR-CR 125 2001
    Husqvarna WR 250-360 - CR 250 2001
    Husqvarna TE 410-610 TC 610 2000
    Husqvarna WR 250 2008
    Husqvarna TE-SMS 630 2011
    Husqvarna TE E DUAL PURPOSE - SM S 610 2006
    Husqvarna TE - SMR 570 2003
    Husqvarna WR-CR 125 2004
    Husqvarna WR-CR 125 2008
    Husqvarna TE- TC-SM 570R 2002
    Husqvarna WR-CR 125 2003
    Husqvarna TE-SMS 630 2010
    Husqvarna WR 250 2007

    wrist pin on dogbone
    Part number: 800097050
    Description:
    WRIST PIN
    Husqvarna TE-SM IE 610 2009
    Husqvarna TE-TC 250-450 SMR 450 2004
    Husqvarna TE-SM IE 610 2008
    Husqvarna TE R 510 2004
    Husqvarna TE-SMS 630 2011
    Husqvarna TE E DUAL PURPOSE - SM S 610 2006
    Husqvarna TE-TC 250-450 SMR 450 2003
    Husqvarna SMR SEEL REPLICA 630 2004
    Husqvarna TE - SMR 570 2003
    Husqvarna TE-TC-SMR 250-450-510 2007
    Husqvarna TE- TC-SM 570R 2002
    Husqvarna TE E DUAL PURPOSE - SM S IE 610 2007
    Husqvarna TE-TC-SMR 250-450-510 2006
    Husqvarna TE-TC-SMR 250-450-510 2005
    Husqvarna TE CENTENNIAL 510 2004
    Husqvarna TE - SMR 570 2004
    Husqvarna SMR SEEL REPLICA 630 2003
    Husqvarna SM 450 RR 2006
    Husqvarna TE-SMS 630 2010
    Husqvarna TE 400-570 SM 570R 2001
    Husqvarna SMR R 570 2004
    Husqvarna TE E DUAL PURPOSE - SM S 610 2005
    REAR CUSHION LEVER
  7. BiG DoM Husqvarna
    AA Class

    This is interesting as does give cross reference to some of the parts - where did you pull this from?
  8. WickedWill Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    QLD,AU
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE630
    Other Motorcycles:
    some little red ones
    Click on the red writing in the post ,punch in your model and search away
  9. BiG DoM Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Thanks. Looks like I will need to mix and match with OEM or just bite the bullet and order all from the Stealer. No kits I can find match all the 610/630 parts.
  10. BiG DoM Husqvarna
    AA Class

    OK hopefully good news - just discovered that Motosportz/Husqvarnaworld (forum sponsors!) sell a linkage kit for the 610/630.:D
  11. Theo Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Lombardy, Italy
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    SM 610 I.E.
    Other Motorcycles:
    2001 YZ250

    On the service manual they state:
    "The rocking lever and tie rod have been designed with a certain amount of axial play in order to allow the shock absorber to always find the ideal operating position."
    My SM 610's about 9k miles (I've been the only owner) and I've never greased the swingarm, rear shock and linkages bearings, until I read this thread: http://www.cafehusky.com/threads/swingarm-bearings.39835/.
    Simply, I've never thought about it and I've been wondering what those two little things were for all the time I've owned the bike:
    [IMG]
    I feel quite an idiot now! :banghead:
    This is the situation:

    According to the manual, there shouldn't be radial play, so some bearings are ruined. I will check them, hoping that, at least, they're not all unserviceable and that the bearings seats are ok.
  12. Kyle Tarry Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2012 WR 300, 2006 TE 610
    Other Motorcycles:
    Ducati Monster S2R 800
    If you replace the bearings and inner race sleeves, I bet those will be just fine. You'll have way more play than that if you've chewed through the outer races into the seats.
    Theo likes this.
  13. SimpleOne Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Sydney, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE 630
    Other Motorcycles:
    09 ZX-6R Trackbike
    On the subject of kits from earlier in the thread: http://www.allballsracing.com/swing-arm-and-linkage/27-1148.html

    Does that kit not cover the linkage bearings?
    I'm away from the bike at the moment, and unfortunately it didn't arrive before i left so i never got to confirm it fits and covers everything, but it sure looks like it covers everything from the swingarm bearings to the linkage bearings, based on my memory.
  14. BiG DoM Husqvarna
    AA Class

    It does not mention the TE610 as a model? But if all identicle on the 630 then we are in business! I was about to order OEM. Can anyone confirm that the linkages are the same?
    It
  15. Theo Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Lombardy, Italy
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    SM 610 I.E.
    Other Motorcycles:
    2001 YZ250
  16. BiG DoM Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Cool - think I will go ahead and order ;)
  17. R_Little Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    NJ
    I just look at your vid.

    That play looks normal to me.... in fact tighter than normal.

    pull out the swingarm and lube the bearings as well as the swing arm bolt.

    Hopefully the bolt will tap right out...if oyu haven't done it in a long time it may be hard to get out.
  18. BiG DoM Husqvarna
    AA Class

    The play does not appear to be in the swingarm bearings but the linkage bearings. One or more is properly poked! Mine were and I did not have this rotational play. l:cool:
  19. BiG DoM Husqvarna
    AA Class

    And now for a rear swingarm kit that will work on the 610/6330? Anyone?
  20. BiG DoM Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Looks like Pivot Works has a kit PWSAK-HQ03-001