Help! Debris found in my engine - 610/630 clutch issues

Discussion in '610/630' started by Rough Rider, Feb 9, 2011.

  1. motranqui Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Madrid (Spain)
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE310 2010 & TE630 2010
    Yes, you're right and I won't put the stock cup washers back in there
    In this point I'm not so sure. RS650R is almost the same bike that the TE630 and so we all hope that SWM have found a solution to all the weak points of the TE630, including the cup washers. That's why a lot of fellows are looking forward to see the RS650S spare parts... to see if some upgrade has been made
  2. Rotax_655 Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Cerveteri - Rome
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Husqvarna TE 630
    Other Motorcycles:
    Aprilia Pegaso 650 GA
    I think the clutch bushing is soon ruined because you start the engine with the clutch lever pulled .

    in this manner the wheel bushing with little lubrication .

    what do you think of my impression?
  3. CJBROWN Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Orange County, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE630
    Other Motorcycles:
    '15 R1200GS
    Why do you think the clutch bushing gets ruined from starting the motor? You think it doesn't have enough oil on it?

    Seems a stretch to me. <shrug>


    Are you a betting man?

    I don't see that Husqvarna and then SWM are going to see the slipper clutch as any kind of a durability issue.
    I also don't get where everybody thinks SWM is going to be some kind of miraculous cure-all for the old Italian Husky. I'll believe it when I see it.
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  4. Rotax_655 Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Cerveteri - Rome
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Husqvarna TE 630
    Other Motorcycles:
    Aprilia Pegaso 650 GA
    I am concerned that in the first moments of operation of the clutch basket turns while the main shaft is stopped .
    bushing clutch briefly works without oil.
  5. Rotax_655 Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Cerveteri - Rome
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Husqvarna TE 630
    Other Motorcycles:
    Aprilia Pegaso 650 GA
    A photo to better explain

    Attached Files:

  6. RDTCU Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '11 630SMS
    As someone with 16000 miles on the 630, I can say it's not much of an issue if you're using good oil.
    I replaced the bushing for $24USD at ~8k miles when I pulled the basket to smooth out the fingers.
    The new bushing had about as much wobble as the old bushing.
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  7. Rotax_655 Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Cerveteri - Rome
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Husqvarna TE 630
    Other Motorcycles:
    Aprilia Pegaso 650 GA
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  8. CJBROWN Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Orange County, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE630
    Other Motorcycles:
    '15 R1200GS
    As the old song goes....'don't worry...be happy...' Have a Margarita and relax. :D
  9. drhek Husqvarna
    B Class

    Location:
    Chico CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2007 Te610
    Other Motorcycles:
    '90 DR350S, '02 XT225
    Cup washers from my 2007 Husqvarna TE610 @ ~4000 miles. Purchased it with ~1800 miles.

    Damaged Cup Washer.JPG IMG_0710.JPG
  10. drhek Husqvarna
    B Class

    Location:
    Chico CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2007 Te610
    Other Motorcycles:
    '90 DR350S, '02 XT225
    Shoutout to XLEnduroMan for giving the information on the clutch cup washer fix for my 610. Photos of the old vs new husky springs (part #800079310) and my old cup washer vs StuJams. XLEnduroMan has more insight on why its also recommended to replace the springs.

    Attached Files:

  11. John Tsoukalas Husqvarna
    B Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    610 SM ie.
    Other Motorcycles:
    Daytona 675
    I had all my clutch upgraded:

    1. Changed the cups with ones that I made on a lathe from hardened steel
    2. Changed the brush bushing with a new one, after all it is about 20 bucks
    3. Filed the marks on the basket from the disks.
    4. Made new actuator from alloy special steel "WNr 1.7225 / DIN 42 CrMo4" For automotive and aircraft components with high toughness as axle journals, gears, tyres, push rods
    5. And last but not least, exchanged the cable with an aftermarket hydraulic system.

    Clutch is really light and I no more have a problem wit broken cables... :banana:
  12. motranqui Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Madrid (Spain)
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE310 2010 & TE630 2010
    I hate you :lol:
  13. Paris_610 Husqvarna
    C Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    610 SM

    John Where did you make the cups?? I'm having problem with cups right now and I want to make cups because Husqy asks 16€ per piece.

    Sent me PM
  14. BiG DoM Husqvarna
    AA Class

  15. CJBROWN Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Orange County, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE630
    Other Motorcycles:
    '15 R1200GS

    Yeah, that is about what mine looked like, maybe not even that bad. The problem is when they get thin and break apart - that is what can cause catastrophic failure. Little bits of metal floating through your motor is not conducive to long life. :D
    I did mine at about 6K. It also seems like taking up just a bit more space for the springs tightens it up a bit - seems less noisy on low-torque throttle-ups. Like climbing a hill and such.

    Getting very thin and out of alignment:

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  16. s1marks Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Banks, Oregon. USA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE630 (2011)
    Other Motorcycles:
    R1150GS (2001), KLR600 (1986)
    Just replaced mine a couple of weeks ago with the Indy set I have been sitting on but not got around to installing. My bike has an estimated 12K relatively gentle miles on it (on it's 3rd computer). Mine look a lot like drhek's from post #269 above. I can only re-iterate what others have said. You have to replace them or face the obvious eventual consequences.

    S1
  17. motranqui Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Madrid (Spain)
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE310 2010 & TE630 2010
    I'm curious. How many have reported a catastrophic consequence because of the broken cup washers?

    I mean: there are a lot of people who have showed their "worn out or even broken" cup washers... and they have found debris in the magnetic plug. But how many have suffered a engine break because of the broken cup washers?
  18. huska630 Husqvarna

    Location:
    OK, USA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    te630
    Other Motorcycles:
    ktm 950sm, DRZ400e, ktm 300exc
    I am about to pull my clutch to see what the rattling is about. Who makes the cup washers? someone mentioned Cutler 1 but I didn't find that name on a member search. Also do you need a special tool to hold the basket when retorqing?

    Thanks!
  19. EricV Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE630

    What kind of rattling are you experiencing? Mine- when I release the clutch lever (in neutral, at idle) is making a rattling noise. Guessing my basket bearing is about shot (hope that's all it is.) This is my second bearing- it's been in there for about 6K.

    On the clutch holder tool... Yeah, you can get a special took for that but all I used was a nylon strap (wrapped it around to hold it in place.) Not sure what to tell you about the new washers...not sure who is making them these days.
  20. CJBROWN Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Orange County, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE630
    Other Motorcycles:
    '15 R1200GS
    A gloved hand and an impact wrench also works.I didn't even drain the oil, just laid 'er over. Took a couple of hours, could do it again in about half that time.

    I thought there were a couple of sources up-thread here? Just read back through the pages. Somebody was making them on demand from tool steel.

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