1. 2 Stroke Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Italy - About 1989 to 2014
    WR = 2st Enduro & CR = 2st Cross

250-500cc Another Piston Thread

Discussion in '2 Stroke' started by Huskynoobee, Nov 23, 2015.

  1. Claybilly17 Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Ohio
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2000 WR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    2009 KTM 450 SXF
    I used this break in process the first time I rebuilt my 450... then it blew a rod
    View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8Ms6JDLl-8

    Now I use the "hard break in" method in the article above...
  2. juicypips Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    gloucestershire
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    wr 360. 2002
    Other Motorcycles:
    Gas Gas TxT 300, Yamaha wr250f
    I used heat cycles do two or three then do an enduro.
    The main reason to let it do heat cycles is to bed the rings in, on a two smoke if you give er the beans straight out you will glaze your bore and the rings will be sealing against glass.
    Ever wondered why when you get a fresh cylinder back its honed with cross hatching?
    Thats to trap oil and fuel mix so the rings have something to seal against.

    I assume the heat cycles just harden the hatching.. I know its nikasil its hard as hell but it works.
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  3. Huskynoobee CH Sponsor ZipTy Racing

    Location:
    Castaic, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE449 2006 WR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    HDUltra Classic IT200 YZ250 SV650s
    Mike I used the manual method and it worked just fine. I run 35/36:1 anyway so just ran my regular stuff. I did 2 heat cycles at home, which is a great way to check your work and burp the cooling system to get coolant level correct. Then, as mentioned in my previous post, I spent the better part of a day taking it on the 10 and 15 min rides, followed by a longer ride at moderate speeds. Then I raced it, but didn't pin it to win it either. As long as you do a proper warm up before you ride it, there should be no problem.
  4. mikebru Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Ocean County, NJ
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2009 WR250; 2012 TE449; 2005 TE450
    Great advice from everybody, thanks. I'll do the manual's method, too.
  5. PaulD Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Little Egg Harbor N.J.
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2010 wr250( sold)
    Other Motorcycles:
    Triumph Sprint RS. Honda TRX300EX Be
    hey Mike, glad to hear you finally got the piston. Good luck with the rebuild!
  6. Miezie666 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Germany
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    none
    Other Motorcycles:
    2x YZ 125, 1x YZ250 2005, XT600 2KF
    So many of us did replace the pistons over the last weeks- did nobody realise the transfer ports are not fully opened when piston is on lower dead center?
    or is it just my bike beeing different to yours?
  7. juicypips Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    gloucestershire
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    wr 360. 2002
    Other Motorcycles:
    Gas Gas TxT 300, Yamaha wr250f
    Transfer ports are closed about 3 mm from bottom to top of piston crown on most bikes.
    This isnt really a problem as when the piston rises it forces fuel mix down to the lower end breifly to lube the mains then piston returns the reeds shut the fuel mix is accelerated up the transfers into the cylinder above piston out exhaust and then gets pushed back into the chamber by the expansion shock wave from previous explosion.
    Piston cycles goes through it again.
    you can change port duration with base gaskets but compression ratio and squish will suffer.
    Personally if your bikes not down on power I wouldn't worry, well i dont
    Suppose i could of raised my cylinder and machined more off my head to get squish back but then the stroke will be affected.

    summary who cares, just ride.
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  8. mikebru Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Ocean County, NJ
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2009 WR250; 2012 TE449; 2005 TE450
    So it's done! Broken in and running well.

    I think I averted a near disaster.

    It started on 2nd kick for the 1st break-in warm up.

    Had choke on. It started revving to like WFO for a few seconds! Took a few stabs of the kill switch to turn it off. Turns out my throttle cable was pulled tight out of the carb from when I put the tank back on. That actually happened to me on a normal ride day about a year ago. Took a while to figure it out then.

    Once I adjusted the cable everything was back to normal. So it turns out maybe I inadvertently did the let'er rip break in. Hopefully, no damage was done. I proceeded to follow the manual's break-in instructions. Still have to do the last 15 minute trip but I think I'm good now anyway.

    Thanks everybody for the help throughout this thread.
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  9. PaulD Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Little Egg Harbor N.J.
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2010 wr250( sold)
    Other Motorcycles:
    Triumph Sprint RS. Honda TRX300EX Be
    Great news Mike!
  10. ohmygewd Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Melbourne, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    13'Berg FE350, 96'WR360, 01 WR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    Aprilia RSV1000
    Most important thing in the whole break-in procedure is the cool down...let the motor cool down to stone cold between each break-in cycle is super important!!
  11. mikebru Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Ocean County, NJ
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2009 WR250; 2012 TE449; 2005 TE450
    Thanks. Just about did that. Not quite stone cold but cold/cool I'd say for the 1st 2 cycles. Definitely stone cold for the 10 minute ride.
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  12. Joedints Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Medford, New Jersey
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    11 WR300 13 WR125 81 WR430 82 CR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    Kawasaki ZR7-S
    Finally putting it back together. Our Enduro is in 2 weeks so hopefully no additional complications View attachment 65535 0304162000_HDR.jpg 0304162000a_HDR.jpg 0304161638_HDR.jpg
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  13. Joedints Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Medford, New Jersey
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    11 WR300 13 WR125 81 WR430 82 CR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    Kawasaki ZR7-S
    Stopping point... 1457150766339-1228865446.jpg
  14. juicypips Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    gloucestershire
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    wr 360. 2002
    Other Motorcycles:
    Gas Gas TxT 300, Yamaha wr250f
    Looking good joedints, i normally get reed block on while the cylinders out more access and less fiddle, you doing squish clearance now?
    Lever the rings off the piston there not needed for the squishy testing its quicker changing base gaskets before the proper assembly.

    Love a fresh rebuild.
  15. mikebru Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Ocean County, NJ
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2009 WR250; 2012 TE449; 2005 TE450
    How did you get that cylinder so clean, inside and out? Especially in the power valve linkage areas.

    I spent some me time on mine with a brush, simple green and carb cleaner but it looks nothing like yours.
  16. juicypips Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    gloucestershire
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    wr 360. 2002
    Other Motorcycles:
    Gas Gas TxT 300, Yamaha wr250f
    Im going to say thats been replated so the company would of cleaned it.
  17. Joedints Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Medford, New Jersey
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    11 WR300 13 WR125 81 WR430 82 CR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    Kawasaki ZR7-S
    Cylinder was replated and cleaned by them, I cleaned everything else myself.....
  18. Joedints Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Medford, New Jersey
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    11 WR300 13 WR125 81 WR430 82 CR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    Kawasaki ZR7-S
    Now... If I can figure out the power valve... The actuator arm coming from the bottom end where it hooks up, the "d" shape is reverse of the arm it attaches too...
  19. mikebru Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Ocean County, NJ
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2009 WR250; 2012 TE449; 2005 TE450
    These photos help?

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  20. juicypips Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    gloucestershire
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    wr 360. 2002
    Other Motorcycles:
    Gas Gas TxT 300, Yamaha wr250f
    Yeah thats a 250 and 300 pv set up whats wrong then?