• Hi everyone,

    As you all know, Coffee (Dean) passed away a couple of years ago. I am Dean's ex-wife's husband and happen to have spent my career in tech. Over the years, I occasionally helped Dean with various tech issues.

    When he passed, I worked with his kids to gather the necessary credentials to keep this site running. Since then (and for however long they worked with Coffee), Woodschick and Dirtdame have been maintaining the site and covering the costs. Without their hard work and financial support, CafeHusky would have been lost.

    Over the past couple of weeks, I’ve been working to migrate the site to a free cloud compute instance so that Woodschick and Dirtdame no longer have to fund it. At the same time, I’ve updated the site to a current version of XenForo (the discussion software it runs on). The previous version was outdated and no longer supported.

    Unfortunately, the new software version doesn’t support importing the old site’s styles, so for now, you’ll see the XenForo default style. This may change over time.

    Coffee didn’t document the work he did on the site, so I’ve been digging through the old setup to understand how everything was running. There may still be things I’ve missed. One known issue is that email functionality is not yet working on the new site, but I hope to resolve this over time.

    Thanks for your patience and support!

Two new offroad 250F's from Yamaha for 2015

Huskynoobee said:
I've never had a problem with having to bleed a cable clutch. Keeps my left hand nice and strong on my Harley.
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Would you really choose to go back to a cable after having a hydraulic clutch? I don't think you would. :D

I hear what you're saying about reliability, most of my mates that have had Magura clutches have had leaks. The Brembo one on the TE has been great, I haven't had to touch it & I can ride one finger on it all day.
Definately felt a full day on my WR450F cable clutch though.
 
Actually they don't bother me. The TE is the first bike I've ever had with a hydraulic clutch. Guess I'm a little bit old school on that. Do I like it? yup. Do I want it to leak on the middle of nowhere? Nope
 
If the cable clutch is soft it's OK, but I prefer hidraulically because always works soft & I never have had any problem...

The diferent weight between Mx & Enduro is 12kg, too much. Yzf 250 is light 99 kg dry, but the work to adapt the bike to Enduro is not so good.

And what do you think about the position of the Enduro muffler?....
 
Huskynoobee said:
Actually they don't bother me. The TE is the first bike I've ever had with a hydraulic clutch. Guess I'm a little bit old school on that. Do I like it? yup. Do I want it to leak on the middle of nowhere? Nope
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The TE is my first hydraulic clutch as well.
Even if I buy a bike with a cable next it'll be getting a retro fit to hydraulics, not a deal breaker for me.
I've broken a cable before too, but no clutch isn't the end of the ride, just a challenge to get home.
All good :)
 
JMP1899 said:
If the cable clutch is soft it's OK, but I prefer hidraulically because always works soft & I never have had any problem...

The diferent weight between Mx & Enduro is 12kg, too much. Yzf 250 is light 99 kg dry, but the work to adapt the bike to Enduro is not so good.

And what do you think about the position of the Enduro muffler?....
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You're right!
The increase is a massive 13kg, from 105 wet YZF to 118 wet WR off the Euro website specs.

What did they do, fill the frame tubes with cement?:eek: That is a hell of a lot of extra lights & wiring.

So where is it all?
Bigger alternator, battery, starter & gears, lights, likely heavier(quieter) muffler, radiator overflow tank?.....
Doesn't add up to me, I reckon that should be 8-10kg tops.
 
Dangermouse449 said:
You're right!
The increase is a massive 13kg, from 105 wet YZF to 118 wet WR off the Euro website specs.

What did they do, fill the frame tubes with cement?:eek: That is a hell of a lot of extra lights & wiring.

So where is it all?
Bigger alternator, battery, starter & gears, lights, likely heavier(quieter) muffler, radiator overflow tank?.....
Doesn't add up to me, I reckon that should be 8-10kg tops.
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Yep that always happens. Thats why I bought my YZ250 over the WR250 at the time (03) That stuff does add up quick and lots of little brackets and stuff. Crazy. The europeans, especially KTM, have mastered getting all the off road stuff on there and keeping weight down. Years of refinement. So then the choice is always MX bike without stuff you kinda like and needing suspension work or fat pig with the goods.
 
Motosportz said:
Yep that always happens. Thats why I bought my YZ250 over the WR250 at the time (03) That stuff does add up quick and lots of little brackets and stuff. Crazy. The europeans, especially KTM, have mastered getting all the off road stuff on there and keeping weight down. Years of refinement. So then the choice is always MX bike without stuff you kinda like and needing suspension work or fat pig with the goods.
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I wish the MX weapons were an option in 'Nazi' controlled Australia where, in all but 2 states, we have to have full registration to ride on forrest trails...... sigh.

Sherco 450 looks nice still, 109kg dry.... :D

Their 250 enduro is 102KG, less than the YZ250 by 5kg & less than their own 2st.
Euros for the win!!
 
Dangermouse449 said:
I wish the MX weapons were an option in 'Nazi' controlled Australia where, in all but 2 states, we have to have full registration to ride on forrest trails...... sigh.

Sherco 450 looks nice still, 109kg dry.... :D

Their 250 enduro is 102KG, less than the YZ250 by 5kg & less than their own 2st.
Euros for the win!!
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Sherco 250i-300i 4stroke real dry weight is about 107 - 108kg...

450i will be more or less 111kg...


Also Yamaha is more more reliable...
 
Motosportz said:
Yep that always happens. Thats why I bought my YZ250 over the WR250 at the time (03) That stuff does add up quick and lots of little brackets and stuff. Crazy. The europeans, especially KTM, have mastered getting all the off road stuff on there and keeping weight down. Years of refinement. So then the choice is always MX bike without stuff you kinda like and needing suspension work or fat pig with the goods.
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Yes, Ktm only needs about 8 kg to get all enduro components... here there is the 5kg diference... Yamaha get's enduro components without thinking in competition...
 
reveille said:
The rock solid long term durability synonymous with Yamaha engines is notable IMHO.
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JMP1899 said:
Also Yamaha is more more reliable...
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The five valve Yamaha in 450cc guise is nuclear proof, no question there!
I flogged my '05 around the forrest over here for 185 trouble-free hrs before selling it for the TE449.
It will be interesting to see how the new 4valve reverse cyl eninge is in an enduro for life, hopefully as good.

The lighter TE is as reliable with no mechanical trouble in 145hrs, not even a valve reshim.
Time will tell with the brand new Sherco 450 engine as it isn't released yet.
It looks increasingly likely I'll end up on one so might be able to let you know first hand.
 
Yamaha is the best in durability...

Hva 449 is reliable too, but sherco 250-300 4s... not so much... not big problems but is not his best.

Sherco 450 will see...
 
The position of the muffler of yzf & fx is one of it's best innovations... but in enduro wrf, Yamaha don't respect this position & waste this innovation. ..

I really don't like it...
 
For a better wading depth the most important is admision (height of air filter) ... If the engine is running the water don't enter throught the muffler...
Yamaha wrf have a good wading depth because of the good position of the air filter...
 
18" rear wheel, bar mounted map switch(to keep up with the cool kids) & a bigger tank too. make the estart a proper estart or otherwise optional. throw in a hydro clutch to seal the deal! sign me up right now:p
 
Before jumping on this KTM whoops I mean Husqvarna band wagon my wife and friends suggested I buy a new yz 250 smoker. And I almost did......
 
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