te610/630 Clucth Cush Washers group buy info

[Stujam]

Hi all

UPDATE - Friday 13 November orders are in and parts are being made for the one off run. I hope to have them back and start posting them in a few weeks.

I have ordered a few extra sets and when all the below people who have paid have theirs sets there may be a handful left over for sale & 70Aud + post.


To order please email me putting you username in the subject and full name & delivery address in the content . I can then provide you direct deposit details or send a pay pal request to you . If you have a pay pal account you can pay me directly using my email address - again use your cafe husky / adv username as the reference .




Order list
justintyme x 1 - paid
theLettterJ x 2 paid
Homerb x 1 paid
BlueKnob x 1 paid
Radmann10 x 1 paid
Nessy x 1 paid
JonathanNickel x 1 paid
Bully adv x 1 paid
Kevin Armstrong x 2 paid
Rickcj7 x 1 paid
Huskyfatman x 1 paid
Dustrbuva x 1 paid
Kirkbybikes x 2 paid
A (andreas) x 1 paid
Ivan Pullinen x 1 paid
Thumperama x 1 paid
John Brown x 1 paid
Huffaker x1 paid
Andrew H x 1 paid
Russ x 1 paid
DRHEK x 2 paid
Arno J Drrags x 1 paid
RT - Teeblatt x 1 paid
Kloc x 2 paid
Cinerider KR x 1 paid
Somesuch x 1 paid
rsl47m x 1 paid
Mattyv x 1 paid
Adventcha uncut x 1 paid
FatBob x 1 paid
bapo x 1 paid
Twolane x 1 paid

 

[Stujam]

Hi all,
I had a another 7 or 8 members on the original "interest" list that have not contacted me yet to order. If we have not got the numbers before the cut off date I will cover the cost for the remaining sets (20 was the minimum order). After that the extra sets will be offered at a slightly higher price ( as I forgot to allow for paypal fees in the above pricing )..

So if you are keen, or have not changed your washers it would be a good time to get on board and order.

 

[Andrew Hammond]

Are these used on a 2008 sm610? If so, I would like to be added to the list.

-Andrew

 

[Stujam]

Are these used on a 2008 sm610? If so, I would like to be added to the list.

-Andrew

Hi Andrew the parts manual indicates they are the same and other sm owners are ordering . Details for ordering are in post #1

 

[Teeblatt]

Email Sent.

Hope it isn't to late to get on board for a set for my TE.

Update ...
Payment Sent

Thanks for the Italian Husky community support

 

[Stujam]

Email Sent.

Hope it isn't to late to get on board for a set for my TE.

All good mate, order going in friday morning... so turnaround should be about 2 weeks .. .. then I will be busy packing and sending ..

 

[Xcuvator]

I hate to rain on the party but the washers being harder and thicker will wear the cast aluminum clutch parts even faster and is a temporary bandaid.

A cushioned rear hub is more of a fix.

 

[Stujam]

I hate to rain on the party but the washers being harder and thicker will wear the cast aluminum clutch parts even faster and is a temporary bandaid.

A cushioned rear hub is more of a fix.

Ye 100% a cush hub is going save a lot to of wear. Doing nothing will result in wear on washers and bits of washers coming apart and creating lots of problems .
I have personally pulled apart 3 610 clutches with 5-10k on the motor and all 3 had broken & thin washers . They where put back together with indys washers ( same as what i am having made ) and 10k later all have little to no signs of wear .
The stock washers are weak - but i think encouraging people to look at a cush hub ( which i have on my 630 ) is wise .,

 

[Xcuvator]

Ye 100% a cush hub is going save a lot to of wear. Doing nothing will result in wear on washers and bits of washers coming apart and creating lots of problems .
I have personally pulled apart 3 610 clutches with 5-10k on the motor and all 3 had broken & thin washers . They where put back together with indys washers ( same as what i am having made ) and 10k later all have little to no signs of wear .
The stock washers are weak - but i think encouraging people to look at a cush hub ( which i have on my 630 ) is wise .,

Don't forget that the harder washers are wearing on the same softer aluminum clutch hub and basket.

The hardened washers are certain to wear less. Did you also measure the parts that they engage at both tear downs?


I have a strong feeling that the engineering dictated soft washers for a reason.
The earlier 610s came with a cushioned rear hub.
I'm still looking for one but I may be forced to get a Rad set up.

Is that what you went with Stu?
Good luck keep us up to date

 

[EricV]

I see what you're saying and don't necessarily disagree (and certainly agree that the cush hub is also the right move) but, in my opinion and in agreement w/ Stu, I think leaving the stock stuff in place is just wrong. As Stu pointed out it's just not worth the risk (which borders on guarantee) that bits of cup washers are going to fly about and cause greater widespread damage. If the hub/basket are going to wear so be it- that's measurable/observable and pales in comparison to what may happen if pieces of washers fly about inside.

 

[RDTCU]

I see what you're saying and don't necessarily disagree (and certainly agree that the cush hub is also the right move) but, in my opinion and in agreement w/ Stu, I think leaving the stock stuff in place is just wrong. As Stu pointed out it's just not worth the risk (which borders on guarantee) that bits of cup washers are going to fly about and cause greater widespread damage. If the hub/basket are going to wear so be it- that's measurable/observable and pales in comparison to what may happen if pieces of washers fly about inside.

I've been keeping an eye on mine, last had it open around 14k miles, with no failed spring cups yet. Some are a bit thin but none are falling apart. I've got a new set of the heavy duty retainers and rivets and may do them this winter, but there is no guarantee that they will fail early. And I don't ride easy...

 

[EricV]

I've been keeping an eye on mine, last had it open around 14k miles, with no failed spring cups yet. Some are a bit thin but none are falling apart. I've got a new set of the heavy duty retainers and rivets and may do them this winter, but there is no guarantee that they will fail early. And I don't ride easy...

I'd agree- there's no guarantee they'll fail. In fact I recall reading about yours with interest and am glad for you they haven't. Now I'm obviously in the camp that believes it's more likely to happen than not, based on reports seen here. Regardless and also based on those reports I couldn't enjoy the ride as much feeling like it was only a matter of time. Sure enough mine were thin enough to where they would have started coming apart soon. I know from reading your posts you're not lazy about opening up the case cover to check, so as long as someone's willing to keep a close enough eye on it then you're good.

14K is unusually high on these, which makes one wonder if there were different batches/origins of materials somewhere along production runs. I'd be curious to hear just how many miles you get, but of course don't push it too far.

 

[RDTCU]

14K is unusually high on these, which makes one wonder if there were different batches/origins of materials somewhere along production runs. I'd be curious to hear just how many miles you get, but of course don't push it too far.

That's my theory on it, or bad heat treat, seeing so many reports of early failure.
I've seen plenty of things fail due to bad heat treat batches that weren't caught, between work and firearms.
I've had off-the-shelf die components shatter like glass because they were overhardened.

 

[Stujam]

Orders are in and parts will be machined soon, sent for hardening next week and hopefully back to me the following. They will be then sent out via Australia post.

Cheers Stu

 

[Stujam]

Just an update . Washers are made , just waiting for them , hopefully if they get to me by the end of this week i can start posting them out next week .

 

[Homerb]

Thanks Stu.

 

[Stujam]

Hi all

parts are in .. i have them bagged, just gotta find a few hours to spend at the post office.. will get them out before the end of the week ..

cheers Stu

 

[Homerb]

Thanks Stu.

 

[Stujam]

2.5 hours in the post office and 30 odd packages have being sent. . Should be 7-10days.

Postage worked out a bit cheaper then I quoted, but I lost about $4 per order in pay pal fees so all up there was about $6 per order left after costs. I just want to make its all transparent as this was never a profit making exercise. I had spent a few $ extra of my own to have more sets made so this will cover that , and these sets can be used in the event of any going missing..

Happy wrenching, be kind to your Husky

Stu

 

[kirbybikes]

Thanks Stu, that's awesome!

Thank you for the time, effort and leg work you put into getting the washers made and posted. You have made many new winter projects (Northern Hemisphere) for us on the list and our Husky's thank you!

Kirk