i don´t get it

[mptrays]

Regarding the comparison to other bike made by companies from Japan: In 2005 I bought a Honda CRF230 & a TTR125LE - I can assure you those both needed a bit of help before they would run, not power up, simply run reliably (I've no other experience, so that was just a data point I have).

Regarding the $8k tool: That would be the MOSS tool, and at least a few people from Husqvarna thought that might work in lieu of the iBeat. There is also a 3rd tool for the Keihin efi bikes (not sure of its name), which I don't believe costs a lot. At least a couple of people thought the MOSS tool could replace that functionality - I've no idea what the MOSS can do.
I am not 100% sure but believe the 2012 TE310 came with Mikuni, and the 2013 TE310 came with a Keihin - easy enough to tell if you look at the marketing brochures or the bike itself.

What I am trying to say is that the dealer could be doing all he can given the various tools/issues.

 

[mptrays]

i am interested in what trouble you had with the crf I have had 2 of them and they were bullet proof. i also had a crf 230 for my son and they never needed anything but basic maintenance. the real point i was making was i had never bought a bike that was a mess out of the box and the company was aware of it and expected me to pay for parts and labor to correct it. did honda fix the bike or did you have to pay to have it corrected i think that is the real question. any one bike can have issues but not all of them as the te310 seem to. the dealer or the company should state it so people like me don't get on it thinking all is well.
thanks m

 

[Xcuvator]

i am interested in what trouble you had with the crf I have had 2 of them and they were bullet proof. i also had a crf 230 for my son and they never needed anything but basic maintenance. the real point i was making was i had never bought a bike that was a mess out of the box and the company was aware of it and expected me to pay for parts and labor to correct it. did honda fix the bike or did you have to pay to have it corrected i think that is the real question. any one bike can have issues but not all of them as the te310 seem to. the dealer or the company should state it so people like me don't get on it thinking all is well.
thanks m

I'm glad that your CRF230s met your expectations, they are great little bikes. I tried to explain to you in the early part of your postings that the Husky motors are based on race motors and need to be really de-tuned to pass the emission regs.
The CRF230 is an entry level (beginner) bike and as such are hard to compare to any of the Husky line up and can remain in a state of tune that is consistent with the application and pass emission testing.
As a side note:
My oldest daughter had a CRF230 when she was learning to ride and she really liked it (think fast on it), even though it was slow to start, warm up and a bit lethargic. I did some searching (thanks Dean) and found out how to tune it up and she was really happy with it, until she rode my 165 Husky.
You are going to love your new bike

 

[Coffee]

i am interested in what trouble you had with the crf I have had 2 of them and they were bullet proof. i also had a crf 230 for my son and they never needed anything but basic maintenance. the real point i was making was i had never bought a bike that was a mess out of the box and the company was aware of it and expected me to pay for parts and labor to correct it. did honda fix the bike or did you have to pay to have it corrected i think that is the real question. any one bike can have issues but not all of them as the te310 seem to. the dealer or the company should state it so people like me don't get on it thinking all is well.
thanks m

At the very least they needed larger pilot jets just to stay running without holding the throttle open for far too long. In addition I vaguely remember having to drill out the tamper proof caps over the pilot screw to get to it.

The bikes (obviously) cannot be compared, just sharing my own experiences.

Should your bike be in more operable condition when you bought it? Absolutely.

 

[Mike-AK]

Should your bike be in more operable condition when you bought it? Absolutely.

I don't know. Mine was a fully operable 50 State emissions-legal bike when I bought it. To expect a race-ready bike when that is not what you bought appears unreasonable to me. Especially when for a small outlay of cash and time, you can convert it into exactly that. You could spend all the money in the world on the engine on a CRF230 and even if you were able to get race performance out of it you would need to replace the frame, suspension, rims, hubs...the list goes on. Not so with the Husky. Uncork it, put in the race ECU and injector, and you are ready for Enduro.

 

[henson802]

i am interested in what trouble you had with the crf I have had 2 of them and they were bullet proof. i also had a crf 230 for my son and they never needed anything but basic maintenance. the real point i was making was i had never bought a bike that was a mess out of the box and the company was aware of it and expected me to pay for parts and labor to correct it. did honda fix the bike or did you have to pay to have it corrected i think that is the real question. any one bike can have issues but not all of them as the te310 seem to. the dealer or the company should state it so people like me don't get on it thinking all is well.
thanks m

I had a Honda CRF230 before my 2010 TE250, and will say that the CRF was bullet proof, and never needed anything besides oil change and filter. I beat on that thing and it's still running good after 5-6 years. Incredibly well made bikes. With the Husky, not only did I need to retune pretty much all parts (once removing smog crud too and restrictive stuff), I added the JD Tuner to further get the mixture right - as well as getting to the fuel pump to hogtie something so it didn't jar loose and lose power/fuel.

It is what it is. For the price, you expect the Huskies to be powerful and tuned out of the box. But that isn't the case for most people's experiences unfortunately. They are GREAT handling bikes, but getting to that point is kind of annoying. I been hearing better things with the later models, specifically the 2013 models.

We all know these are 'race' bikes that been de-tuned to meet the 50 state regulations. But from what I hear, so is the KTM350 and that thing rips well straight off the dealership. Knowing you have to spend 300-600 extra for parts and labor to get it running right is kind of annoying. May as well get a dirt bike , red , green, or blue - and get the baja kit or whatever to plate it. May be cheaper and more power.

I hope to stay with Husky and trade my 2010 250 towards a te310 2013. But the dealership I have has a new 2010 TE 250 so I don't think selling mine will proove success - we'll see. Cheers.

 

[Mike-AK]

We all know these are 'race' bikes that been de-tuned to meet the 50 state regulations. But from what I hear, so is the KTM350 and that thing rips well straight off the dealership. Knowing you have to spend 300-600 extra for parts and labor to get it running right is kind of annoying.

So buy the KTM and spend $2K more?

 

[glangston]

A good and knowledgable dealer is key in understanding these bikes. There are a few dealers you can trust. Good for you if you find them.

 

[henson802]

So buy the KTM and spend $2K more?

Well that's not really the point. Both brands are advertising these as 'plated dirt bikes'. Buying a Husky off a dealership floor, without prior knowledge (up to 2012, 2013 models appear better), may surprise at the things that need to be done to achieve the 'plated dirt bike' status. Buy a KTM off a dealership floor that's plated, from what I've heard, very little if anything needs to be done.

I'm not saying either way is bad. KTM = Kost Too Much. We all know this. But buying a TE250 is around 7,200 or so and TE310 are 8,200 (give or take some)-- expensive enough.. You pay that price thinking it's going to act how they advertise and people review it (dirt bike with a plate).

I don't know - it's a fluid situation because you want to get new people into the sport - but then after plunking down an already large amount of money, soon realize it's going to take a little bit more. Even though you are spending more for the KTM - you know what you are getting right off the showroom floor.

That being said, I'm still a Husky fan

 

[mptrays]

At the very least they needed larger pilot jets just to stay running without holding the throttle open for far too long. In addition I vaguely remember having to drill out the tamper proof caps over the pilot screw to get to it.

The bikes (obviously) cannot be compared, just sharing my own experiences.

Should your bike be in more operable condition when you bought it? Absolutely.[/quotej just to be clear my 2 crf were 250's they would be considered race tuned bikes my son had the 230,

 

[mptrays]

just to be clear my crf's were 250 ie race tuned my son had the 230, all 3 ran flawless out of the box.

 

[motocrossmr]

just to be clear my crf's were 250 ie race tuned my son had the 230, all 3 ran flawless out of the box.

How is the bike? Did you get it back or ride it yet?

 

[mptrays]

How is the bike? Did you get it back or ride it yet?

not yet still waiting for the dealer to call but it won't matter for a while we just had a blizzard four feet of snow what a mess. did you get it in jersey

 

[motocrossmr]

We got a little bit but you guys got freakin slammed! I worked that night and was praying that we didnt get what they had predicted.

 

[mptrays]

We got a little bit but you guys got freakin slammed! I worked that night and was praying that we didnt get what they had predicted.

 

[mptrays]

that is interesting that you mentioned prayer i asked the Lord to keep our power on as we lose it every time it storms and don't you know God is good we never lost it. Praise God and keep praying my brother
m

 

[jerbear610]

that is interesting that you mentioned prayer i asked the Lord to keep our power on as we lose it every time it storms and don't you know God is good we never lost it. Praise God and keep praying my brother
m

You know if you click "reply" it will automatically quote for you. Just sayin'.... After reading all of this I still feel the same way. The TE310 is a niche or "specialized"
performance bike and I think most people who buy them do extensive research on them which would include finding this encyclopedia of Husky knowledge known as
cafehusky and know what they're getting into. To compare a TE310 with a CRF230 is laughable. I don't know about back east but out here a CRF230 or TTR250 are
wive's and daughter's bikes. That's not a joke. When I see one of those two bikes out on the trail it's usually being ridden by a girl. No offense to any guys here who
ride them but that has been my observation.

 

[motocrossmr]

that is interesting that you mentioned prayer i asked the Lord to keep our power on as we lose it every time it storms and don't you know God is good we never lost it. Praise God and keep praying my brother
m

Thats great news. Especially with so much snow. Thats when people lose their lives because emergency services cant get to them. Very dangerous. When Sandy hit we lost power for almost two weeks. That was a real treat. Thankfully a lot of us around here use a wood stove for heat and I already had a generator. I end up praying almost every night I go to work, whether it be for personal interest or someone else, its sometimes all I can do. At work last night our F/D was dispatched to the neighboring town (where I live) for a residential fire. Dispatch doesnt give an address for these calls so I gave them a ring and wouldnt you know......it ended up being my next door neighbors house. One fatal and two flown. Talk about unfair and the need to pray. Really puts things in perspective.....

 

[mptrays]

Thats great news. Especially with so much snow. Thats when people lose their lives because emergency services cant get to them. Very dangerous. When Sandy hit we lost power for almost two weeks. That was a real treat. Thankfully a lot of us around here use a wood stove for heat and I already had a generator. I end up praying almost every night I go to work, whether it be for personal interest or someone else, its sometimes all I can do. At work last night our F/D was dispatched to the neighboring town (where I live) for a residential fire. Dispatch doesnt give an address for these calls so I gave them a ring and wouldnt you know......it ended up being my next door neighbors house. One fatal and two flown. Talk about unfair and the need to pray. Really puts things in perspective.....

Bro that is beyond tragic i will pray for your neighbor as well and you are right we need to keep things in perspective.
M

 

[mptrays]

You know if you click "reply" it will automatically quote for you. Just sayin'.... After reading all of this I still feel the same way. The TE310 is a niche or "specialized"
performance bike and I think most people who buy them do extensive research on them which would include finding this encyclopedia of Husky knowledge known as
cafehusky and know what they're getting into. To compare a TE310 with a CRF230 is laughable. I don't know about back east but out here a CRF230 or TTR250 are
wive's and daughter's bikes. That's not a joke. When I see one of those two bikes out on the trail it's usually being ridden by a girl. No offense to any guys here who
ride them but that has been my observation.

i did jam up a few posts sorry about that and now you want me to fix the te 310 lol. I was comparing my crf 250,s to the te310 i only brought up the 230 as a 3rd example of a bike being sorted out from the showroom. I did not mention the yz 426 i had was also a beast but tough to kick start. By the way out of the box i am way faster on my sons 230 then this te310 as the honda stays running and does not stall everytime i give it the gas or slow down. I am hoping that this bike gets sorted out by the dealer and i will say man it was all worth it but i can,t say it yet.
M