125-200cc Cr125's only, You Wr's beware!

[pvduke]

trigger's READY...

mreeeep mreeeeeeeeeep!

brrrrrrrrrrrring-a-ding-ding it baby!

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

 

[dartyppyt]

If your WR 125 isn't ripping then it's dialed in wrong.

 

[pvduke]

werd.

mines rock stock. rips giant hairy sasquatch ballzingos baby! ask the cat on the kx500 who went off the goat trails trying to hang with trigger this weekend...buwahahahaha. mreeeep mreeeep!

us WR owners aint askeered of no CR's.

WR'S RULE.

 

[wallybean]

PV Duke,

I just got done swapping back from the box stock CR 125 to the 167 and I am still in awe at how explosive the 167 feels in comparison. That being said I don't think there is any way stock for stock, everything equal that your WR can even sniff the rear fender of the CR 125. It just isn't possible. The CR 125 just runs that much better. This is equally true between the CR and WR 150. If I can get a rolling chassis, I will have one bike as the CR 167 and one as the CR 144. I will also definitely get a ffw for the 144. It would be just to explosive in really tight, steep stuff. The 167 has just that extra torque on the bottom/mid that allows you to gear up and be able to pull that stuff off the pipe. The 167 with its extra cylinder drag and piston kit weight doesn't have that instant spool up of the 125/144. It just makes traction and pulllllllllls hard.

Brandon,

I am almost ready to make a trip to your neck of the woods to visit Bill's and meet up with you guys. I would love for you to ride the 167. It is really a fun package. I also need to visit rpmguy to get the pv mods finalized for you guys to try. The ones out of my 144 are at Mark's as we speak but there are some fitment issues we need to make sure are corrected. They also aren't the best grind I have but they do work.

 

[pvduke]

the 167 is my goal for the rocky loose steep crap i ride. it'll be perfect. less rip more grunt.

and ill still drag race any stock 125. ANY.

i aint askeered a no CR (yz, rm, cr, sx etc) mreeep!

 

[surfer1100]

Thats good to know. I ordered this part about a month ago and I am still waiting. I had heard it was going to be about another week though. Worst case you should be able to go to your dealer to get this done.

I can post a pic of where my CR is stamped and you will be within a couple of degrees at the worst if you set yours to that point.

Wish I had a dealer in the state. Called several dealers for info, ie if there was a way around setting it up without the tool, most were unsure and said bring it in(several said they didn't even own the tool themselves)....haha that would be a worthwhile drive!

I should state I am an amateur when it comes to electrics.. I have been tempted to button it up based on pics in the service manual, but a few posts warning of melted pistons when timing is off scared me away.

I'm sure a call to George would verify all possibilities just haven't had the time recently.

The photos would be good, just want to be sure I will not do any damage should I start it up.

***It should be stated that a similar tool is required to set the timing marks for the WR as well, much like the different flywheel pullers.***

 

[PC.]

Brandon,

I am almost ready to make a trip to your neck of the woods to visit Bill's and meet up with you guys. I would love for you to ride the 167. It is really a fun package. I also need to visit rpmguy to get the pv mods finalized for you guys to try.

That would be great!
Come on over.

I need to check up on Ryan myself. Wonder how he's doing.

I'll be in Yellowstone in June. I'd bring a bike, but my wife would end me. How far away are you from there?

 

[MattR]

Mattr, The spacer...1/8'', 1/4'' ?

I see a pwk 38 on your cr...

Better than the TMX?

I measured the spacer thickness and it is 10mm.

Here are details on my PWK with RB Design carb mods. It works fantastic!
http://www.cafehusky.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16235

MattR,
do you have a Steahly weight on yours? If so, can you get a part number from it? Steahly is semi-local to me and I'd prefer to order direct. Oh, and sometimes you can run 2 gaskets to get the clearance you need for the FWW instead of having a spacer made. I'm frugal

It is not a Steahly. I'm not sure who makes this one. Hall's Cycles has them in both 7oz. and 10oz. sizes. GoFasters also has them listed on their site for GasGas bikes and it would crossover to the Husky.

Click here for link to GoFasters flywheel weight

I took some photos to help explain the flywheel weight style and spacer needed.

Aluminum spacer: 10mm thickness

Cover removed to show spacer and 3 longer bolts. Note: you will also need a gasket for both sides of the spacer.

Here is the flywheel weight installed. I just noticed that it is the 7oz. size (instead of 10oz.). You can also see the "hex nut" integrated into the weight. You remove the OE nut, spin on the weight, and torque the weight with its integrated nut. The OE nut is not used.

Since the flywheel weight mounts on the face/end, you can see why the 10mm spacer is needed. The CR flywheel is such a tiny thing, the 7oz weight is the same OD.

 

[wallybean]

Matt,

Thanks for the pics. I am going to get one for the CR144. I am going to get a pic from Steahly of their's and I will post it for comparison.

Brandon,

We are 4 hrs west of Yellowstone. But you are right around the corner from Big Sky and it might be worth a call to see if you can run their CC course and maybe they rent bikes. Second thought if you can arrange to ride that course I will come over and meet you and you can ride the 360. Lots of fun stuff for the missus to do there while the important stuff happens on the bikes.

 

[water racer]

I have owned both WR125 and CR125's the CR's always hit harder, run better and have more power. It's the CR ignition. the Wr is smoother, climbs hills better, is much more forgiving in panic hills and loose stuff. It is a trade off. For off road technical stuff the WR, even though it feels a lot less powerful is better. There are a few hills that gave me fits on the CR as it would explode and i would be all over the hill (similar to my YZ250 -v- Wr250 experience) where on the Wr i would motor right up without drama.

Mark (NWRider) experienced this a few years ago when we traded off between my 04 CR125 and his 08 WR125. My CR was explosive and FAST in comparison but much harder to ride in the slick crap we were riding.

so for Ajax and others in the open the CR is for sure better, but if you ride slick off road technical stuff the WR is MUCH EZer to ride.

THANK YOU!!!
I have not tried a cr, but I do believe they make both for those reasons you just stated.
GP

 

[ajaxauto]

buwahahahahaaaaaaa!

bring it. seriously. stock bike for stock bike. bone stock. gearing, pipe, carb- STOCK. ill drag anyone's stock 125. bring yer lunch money. some of yer dad's too.

(dr. evil laugh...muwahahahaha)

I will be in Luceren this weeken for the National
2008 CR 125 STOCK except for a FMF pipe and geared DOWN
13/52 Plus i am now starting my 4th yes 4 th year on the stock original clutch
Where you want to race heck the bomb run when they drop the start flag at 9.30 sunday morning OR let me know where you would want to do this drag race

 

[jmetteer]

It is going to be a 125 fest soon...

Later,

 

[Dzefro]

hey guys, what ignition are you guys talking about? the Cr's ignition on a wr's...?

I just converted my 125sms to offroad and i realised the power isn't enough for the trails and let alone mx track. im currently running on an Arrow full system but still the power isn't there.

please help.

thanks

 

[rockdancer]

I want to see this drag race happen !!
- come on PV Duke
Sorry but my money is on the CR I think the top end of the WR will be better though and may reel it in eventually

 

[wallybean]

The CR is going to rev farther and faster. They are the same motor except the ignition. I wish I could be there for the face off. Of course if I was, you guys would ride my 167 and you would both have motor envy.

 

[jsleeper]

I think you guys should step this competition up a few notches. Why stop at a simple drag race, when you could run the bikes through a series of events to determine who is the baddest zinger once and for all.

1. Drag race.....at least .5 mile to test top speed and push the limits of the motors.
2. long high speed hill climb
3. slow obstacle riddled hill climb
4. lap time around a MX track
5. wheelie test (just for fun)
6. fuel range
7. single-track test
8. elevation change ride-to test jetting range

jsleeper

 

[rockdancer]

You are the guru Walt but I thought the WR ignition had less advance and more over rev - CR more snap but shuts down earlier - like a YZ

I agree with JS at least a single track lap test with the same rider

 

[Joe Chod]

The tech stuff here is useful but some of you old guys are starting to sound like 14 year old kids on TT!

 

[dartyppyt]

This should be what you need to set your timing:

I had one that I made years ago after drilling out a spark plug and machining an insert that I installed in it with a thumb screw. Thought we could pass it around but I can't find it.

Took me some time but I remembered seeing this in my sights.

http://www.startinglineproducts.com/catalog.cfm?pageID=detail&catalogID=5&catID=44&productID=582

If you bought a used one, it will have the washer marks in it when it was installed in the previous bike. That should be close for start up till you can check it.

 

[ajaxauto]

I think you guys should step this competition up a few notches. Why stop at a simple drag race, when you could run the bikes through a series of events to determine who is the baddest zinger once and for all.

1. Drag race.....at least .5 mile to test top speed and push the limits of the motors.
2. long high speed hill climb
3. slow obstacle riddled hill climb
4. lap time around a MX track
5. wheelie test (just for fun)
6. fuel range
7. single-track test
8. elevation change ride-to test jetting range

jsleeper

1 high speed drag race unless the ground is flat and hard a stock
geared husky will not pull 6th to full rev
2 long high speed hill climb no problem
3 slow obstacle riddle hill climb no problem the best place to test
4 i hate mx but will will still be there
5 i do not weelie any more went over at speed years ago and left alot
of skin on the ground
6 i get 25 mpg at race speed
7 single track test no problem i love the tight stuff
8 for sure no problem i have raceed this bike from below sea level near both my house and the mexican border to up around 6500 feet in the utha mt never a single carb adjustment With temps from over 100 down to about 30 still no adjustments

Better yet just come race the AMA National Hare and hound races you will see every type of terrian we do 10 races
4 in Luceren Calif Desert
1 in Red mt Calif high Desert
1 in el Centro Calif near the Mexican border below sea level in the sand
1 in Idaho in the trees
2 in Utha in the trees
1 in Reno Nev high desert

I race the stock 125 in the open class magum against any thing that shows up
any bike any size .No problem 2 years ago i won and last year i got 2nd Last year i also raced a few of them on my WR 250 this year i will also do a few on the 250 but if i only had one bike to do all of them on it would be the 125 Trust me the Nationals have a little of everything but one thing they do not have is a lot of High speed open stuff most of it is tight The 3rd loop is super tight narly single track
with some of the best mother nature has .That is where the 125 shines
i have rode a WR 125 and still would want a CR in every type of ridding area we go to