• Hi everyone,

    As you all know, Coffee (Dean) passed away a couple of years ago. I am Dean's ex-wife's husband and happen to have spent my career in tech. Over the years, I occasionally helped Dean with various tech issues.

    When he passed, I worked with his kids to gather the necessary credentials to keep this site running. Since then (and for however long they worked with Coffee), Woodschick and Dirtdame have been maintaining the site and covering the costs. Without their hard work and financial support, CafeHusky would have been lost.

    Over the past couple of weeks, I’ve been working to migrate the site to a free cloud compute instance so that Woodschick and Dirtdame no longer have to fund it. At the same time, I’ve updated the site to a current version of XenForo (the discussion software it runs on). The previous version was outdated and no longer supported.

    Unfortunately, the new software version doesn’t support importing the old site’s styles, so for now, you’ll see the XenForo default style. This may change over time.

    Coffee didn’t document the work he did on the site, so I’ve been digging through the old setup to understand how everything was running. There may still be things I’ve missed. One known issue is that email functionality is not yet working on the new site, but I hope to resolve this over time.

    Thanks for your patience and support!

2015 Beta info - EFI

I absolutely hated the 50mm zokes that came on my Husky. Even after LTR did his thing. Never thought I'd say that I like zokes, but the 48mm red units that come on the race aren't too bad
 
I did not care for my Sachs fork at first - it was very harsh except at speed, enough so that I was uncomfortable at first. I now have almost 600 miles on it, mostly trails and the last few rides were on some well used ones that were very boney and it performed well and was comfortable. They seemed to break-in at about the 300 mile mark and of course getting into riding shape helps also. I'm not sure I need to revalve it at this point.
 
Darkside said:
I absolutely hated the 50mm zokes that came on my Husky. Even after LTR did his thing. Never thought I'd say that I like zokes, but the 48mm red units that come on the race aren't not too bad
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I'm not wild over the twin chamber ones for off road, hard to get them to not deflect. The open chamber 50's can be awesome off road forks though.
 
its all about proper set up/personal set up. all the brands of forks are capable and well engineered. Now I just need my 4CS forks to eat trail hack like my 2011 TE310 open chamber forks (Race Tech tuned /ZipTy serviced and retuned). For tough enduro stuff those TE310 forks were my benchmark, the TXC310R closed chamber forks even after tuning I never got as smooth.
 
guess its just the lingering thoughts from my experience with the crappy wr300 sachs shock! once fixed hasn't been an issue but to have a shock that is an outright safety concern on an offroad bike is a bit of a worry IMHO. cant really comment on forks, im sure theyre fine but the whole shock thing left a sour taste in my mouth. not really a deal breaker as im sure beta has them sorted & im not that good a rider to be honest. how does the airbox fair compared to the ktms beta riders? more of a concern to me really than suspension
 
What's wrong with the shock on the WR? The Sachs stuff is pretty good from what I have seen, internal build looks a lot like an Ohlins, and the piston and valving isn't really any different than KYB or Showa stuff.

I'm slow and ride lots of tech stuff so it was too stiff for me, but that doesn't make it bad. Works mint with a revalve.
 
Motosportz said:
I rode Russ' TE350 and thought his 4CS were really nice on that.
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im at 210lbs and was still on oem shock and forks. back was sacked 35mm static abt 120mm tank weight on it, of course front was kinda harsh as well being half way into the travel with me just on it as well as being out of balance. I am having the whole deal done as we speak, so all should be close for my return to the saddle.
 
its a well known problem down under Kyle with the wr250/300 sachs shock(not all sachs I stress, 125 sachs is fine, no probs at all but differing internals im told), maybe due to differing riding terrains/styles over here-pogo sticking! I spoke to a couple of dealers/tuners & they told me the factory was aware of the problem but chose to stick their head up their ars...I mean stick their heads in the sand about it which was pretty lame. happened to me twice before I decided enough was enough(benefit of the doubt first time, thought maybe just needed service). total loss of rebound damping & I mean total! thing turned into a pogo stick at 80kph over rough/rocky terrain. I near on crapped meself its fair to say. after the second time I refused to ride anything fast until it was sorted. was fine on slower going just when you hit repetitive small washout/whoop/rut type stuff at a fair pace it gets too hot & loses it mojo. give it 5 min to cool, maybe some water on shock body & all good again but not safe for fast riding-potential death trap! easy enough fix depending on how much you wanna spend. im no tuner whatsoever so im just going from memory(was a few years ago now) but I believe its the piston band/ring isn't correct size(too thin maybe) so when shock gets too hot the body expands faster than piston/band & oil gets past the band. im told a gold valve($$$) would fix it, or bladder kit or the cheaper option which I went with was a thicker band I believe. Dave at suspension matters(Aus susp guru who seems highly regarded) done it for me & its been trouble free since so all good now. just disappointing nothing was done from factory, I probably could've chased them up about it as it was under warranty at the time but couldn't be bothered plus meant being without bike for who knows how long. again this was a few years ago so going from memory. maybe a revalve helps sort the issue? you know your susp far better than I could ever hope to understand mate so you may know what im trying to explain was happening? I know of 2 others that had same issue in my state, sure their was more as ex-dealer who builds race bikes/cars(handy with susp too!) was one who raised it with factory when Aus distributor didn't help. they fobbed him off!:eek: cant comment on forks but they have odd size shims I believe but that's no biggy, I like my OC kybs so if theyre similar to them then im happy. im sure beat would have em sorted either way, cant imagine theyd release inferior quality susp internals with the calibre of bike they build now:thumbsup: airbox like I said is more of a concern to me
 
The 48 CC Zokes are very versitile, in fact the most versitile I have ridden. You valve them light (light stock) and then the increase in cartridge pressure using the PFP (preload on cartridge spring) changes the way the valving reacts. Even at min preload the pressure is a lot higher than a KYB with valving a lot lighter. They are firm but do not deflect. The new aluminum body Sachs on the Beta is also good, no issues. The old steel body Sachs was fine with the correct oring under the piston band. Some also had an RSV that made a lot of noise. My '07 GG w/Sachs was great for years after being gone through by LTR when new. The new OC Beta/Sachs forks are a lot like a WP inside.
 
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