Water in swingarm

Discussion in 'TR650' started by Navelgazer, Apr 27, 2013.

  1. tweber Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Annual Tour de Go West
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Tr 650 terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Zippo
    I used silicone to seal the mud flap at 1000ish miles and after 17000mls. I drilled test holes in lowest part of swing arm....bone dry. No river crossing but ride in rain.... sometimes heavy rain.
  2. andy839 Husqvarna
    B Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Strada
    Other Motorcycles:
    75 Honda CB360
    I have owned my Strada since new. Used only as a commuter bike. Never offroaded or submerged. Swingarm was totally full of water. Weird.
  3. drzcharlie Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Fayetteville, Arkansas with my Redheaded Mistress
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Burgman 650 (The Barcolounger)
    I ride 50/50 tarmac/gravel Mine was full of water. Sealed the front as described above and drilled holes in the lowest part of the swing arm. I cross streams and creeks a lot here in the Ozarks.
  4. danketchpel Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Camarillo, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    Moto Guzzi, Ducati, Beta
    I stumbled across this thread and wanted to thank you guys for pointing out the issue for us newbie Terra owners.

    I'll check my swingarm to see if it has any holes in it. My bike is nearly new and I haven't washed it yet so..... hopefully there's no water in it yet. The drain/vent hole at the rear seems like a good idea. I've seen those type of holes in other steel framed bikes I've had.


    I ran across this reference it's exactly the same deal with my Terra and my Ducati Sport Classic, WTF? My rear brake reservoir started to turn black during my first real ride, I couldn't believe it. My friend noticed it also.
  5. drzcharlie Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Fayetteville, Arkansas with my Redheaded Mistress
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Burgman 650 (The Barcolounger)
    I think it turns black for two reasons. First they used the cheapest possible brake fluid and secondly a lot of people have found the cap not entirely tight.

    This isn't my bike but, I did the same thing with wire ties. I eventually made a guard and a bracket to hold the lid in place. My lid was almost off, only one or two threads left before it went missing.

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  6. glitch_oz Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    AUS
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Strada



    Or go this way: $5 Ebay reservoir with straight outlet...new, straight piece of hose....cap of reservoir sits neatly between the frame-rails and can't go anywhere.


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  7. Nordland Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    North of Germany
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650 Terra
    Interesting fact about preventing water in the swingarm maybe factory-made:

    http://www.husqvarna-forum.de/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=50093

    In short: Apparently from modelyear 14 there are openings in the swingarm factory-made (have a look at the pictures and the drawing)

    Someone got a TR 650 modelyear 14 and can confirm this?

    If this starting model year 2014 is really standard, then Husqvarna must has known about the problem!

    IMHO this must lead to a recall!
  8. Asmith02 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Issaquah, WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2014 TR 650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    EX Kawa Versys, EX Triumph Speed Tri

    Just bought a brand new out of the box 2014 couple of months ago and I can confirm that the openings are there. They are just like in the pictures and I can stick a zip-tie up them. Good news for me, one less thing I have to worry about. :banana:
  9. LED Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Perth, WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650 Terra
    Thanks to the great info in this thread I decided to check and drilled my swingarms yesterday. I got about 1/4 cup of muddy water from each side. I've never riden in rain or through creeks so it could only have come from the previous owner's use which was over 3 months ago. Dried with compressed air, sprayed Boeshield T-9 into holes and sealed the mud flap holes and drilled holes with silicon. I slept well last night. Now just pod mod to do.
  10. Link Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Modesto, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    Other Motorcycles:
    Aprilia, Honda, HD
    Drilled mine last night, no water! Sealed the mud flap up, think I will leave the holes open.
  11. Loneranger Husqvarna
    C Class

    Location:
    bradenton Fla
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 Strada tr650
    Other Motorcycles:
    1996 Honda XR250L,1979 Honda trail90
    I drilled my holes from underneath and at an angle directly inline with the end of the chain adj bolts and threads. I then used wd40 white lithium grease in a spray can with the straw to direct a coating of lithium grease on the adjuster threads inside and to coat as much of the inside of the swing arm as possible. The angled hole will also let me spray the threads with wd40 if needed when adjusting the chain adjusters.
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  12. MPerry Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 Terra 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    1977 Yamaha 650XS
    I have a 2013 but it has the holes indicated by Nordland. I won't be certain if these drain sufficiently until I spray some wd40 in from the top tomorrow. If they do drain then I will spray something in to prevent rust... I'll decide that over coffee. Ill need to decide on sealing the openings on the front side of the swing arm but will definitely keep the backs open for drainage (even if the allows some water in during water crossings).
    PaulC likes this.
  13. mcalistr Husqvarna
    B Class

    Location:
    Calgary, Alberta
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    Other Motorcycles:
    Triumph Sprint ST 1050
    I just got my 2013 Terra new and it has never seen the street or dirt (1km on the odometer). It looked like there was a small gap where the drawing indicated but not enough to slide a zip-tie in. I sealed the front holes but decided to drill the rear holes "just in case". Glad I did as it appears they come with water in the swingarm direct from the factory- one side was dry but the other side had a substantial amount drain out.
    teamkitty and PaulC like this.
  14. MPerry Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 Terra 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    1977 Yamaha 650XS
    This is the most curious case yet with this bike. Must have been a mod late in 2013 bikes.
  15. Stefan NZ Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Christchurch New Zealand
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650 TERRA 701E
    After 15000 miles I removed my chain tension bolts and out came about a pint of water!
    I'm only just looking into this and only just started reading about it so I need to continue to finalize my plan.
    I'm going to try and locate where the water is coming from and try seal it but I think I'm still going to drill a couple of 3 or 4mm holes underneath the chain tension bolts.
    Any advise from you guys is very welcome!
  16. Stefan NZ Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Christchurch New Zealand
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650 TERRA 701E
    This might have been asked before, excuse me if it has but I must ask anyway; is the water coming in from solely the mud flap holes or is there another area where it is getting in from?
    I drained mine last night and was shocked at what came out! I will drill the required holes at the back but would like to seal up any leaking areas also...

    I appreciate any advise given!
  17. andy839 Husqvarna
    B Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Strada
    Other Motorcycles:
    75 Honda CB360

    See my write up on fixing this problem. You can find it by searching my username. It's on page four of this thread, I believe. It is a perfect solution because it completely seals the swingarm, moves the mudflap down lower so no water gets onto the swingarm from the rear wheel in the first place, and completely coats the inside of the swingarm with phenolic resin to render all the existing rust innocuous and prevent further rust from forming.
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  18. danketchpel Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Camarillo, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    Moto Guzzi, Ducati, Beta
    I ended up drilling the drain holes in my swingarm only to find they were bone dry inside.

    Maybe it's the riding in California where water is almost unknown these days???

    Oh well, at least if any gets in there it will now drain right out.
  19. Cyntax Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    The Netherlands
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra, 900R Nuda
    Other Motorcycles:
    MG V50 NATO III

    I've ridden a lot in rainy weather here in the Netherlands and when I made additional holes in my swingarm last month it was bone dry too. I have the new swingarm type though with holes near the chain adjusters.
    I still have to find a right tap kit to tap the holes I made and screw in a bolt so that water stays out.
  20. dmw_az Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Phoenix, AZ
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    500hp Dodge SRT4
    That's why I haven't done mine yet. I can count the number of times that I've ridden in water with one finger. :)

    Same thing with draining the water from my air compressor. I loosened the drain on mine after using it for 5 years and 1 or 2 drops came out.