1. 4 Stroke Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Austria - About 2014 & Newer
    FE = 4st Enduro & FC = 4st Cross

FE/FC My subframe is coming apart - better check yours!

Discussion in '4st' started by Scott Howard, Oct 18, 2015.

  1. Norman Foley Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Trumansburg, NY... The Beautiful, Finger Lakes
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    82 250WR 86 250WR 93 WXE350 03 TE610
    Other Motorcycles:
    '85 Fantic 300 '12 HUSABERG TE250
  2. robertaccio Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    San Diego, Ca
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 Husqvarna TE300i
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 HusqvarnaTE610, 94 Husaberg FC501
    at least you don't need to punch holes in the airbox for better breathing.............
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  3. Big Timmy Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    (South Eastern) AZ.
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2015 FE 501 with lots of goodies.
    Other Motorcycles:
    BMW G450X, 15'FE501, 23 KTM 1290 SAR
    Here is some pictures of my '15 FE 501 subframe. I have no gap and have looked this over very closely inside and out.

    There appears to be no screws any where other that the top screws that hold the center section to the left side and a bottom bolt above the chain that holds the center airbox section to the lower outside of the left subframes side section.

    This bolt is the one mentioned in the video and is photographed for you. It does not appear in the post of the parts fische 15 subframe picture. But the tab is there on my bike and is allowing that supplemental screw to be used pointing outward, accessible from the inside across the top of the swingarm from the Right side of the bike. Same place from where this picture was taken. Clearly shown in the last one of these 4 pictures I've posted.

    Which would be likely responsible for closing this offending gap if the '14 models don't have this bolt.??? This bolts location is just above the subframes bolts holding it to the frame.

    I just took these pictures right now and am doing my air filter swap right now with my spare air filter.

    I don't know about the '14 year subframes. This is my '15. So lets see a '16 model. SAM_1305.JPG SAM_1308.JPG SAM_1309.JPG SAM_1312.JPG
  4. bikesparky Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Townsville Oztrailia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    FE501
    Other Motorcycles:
    Superduke 1290
    I had a look at my '14 and yes it has the gaps.
  5. ohmygewd Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Melbourne, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    13'Berg FE350, 96'WR360, 01 WR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    Aprilia RSV1000
    My 13 FE350 has a slight gap so sealing it with black silicone works a treat. I can't remember where l've seen it but l've seen a rider run a series of screws or bolts along the seem.
    20140829_101539.jpg

    You might be better to run strapping across the seam to stop further seperation as the subframe will flex and all l can see with the above are screws being pulled apart and gradual loosen off???

    Edit: Found it!!
  6. J3THRO Husqvarna

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2016 FE 501
    Other Motorcycles:
    '12 KTM 990 R , '13 WR450 ,
    I will have my bike by Friday the 30th brand spanking 2016 and then I will take a pic if there is a magic screw. I have been at work offshore and heading home tomorrow, picking up my new bike Thursday or Friday. CANT WAIT !
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  7. reveille Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern Illinois
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2014 FE501
    Other Motorcycles:
    2015 300 XC W
    I did some research and the schematics for the 2014, 2015 and 2016 subframes are identical. At this point we just need an actual real life 2016 inner rear fender picture to solve the mystery. My local dealer may be getting a visit from me. Maybe I'll leave with a 2015 TE300... hehe. Could be an expensive picture mission.
  8. Brapman629 Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    NW PA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2015 FE350!
    Other Motorcycles:
    2009 KTM 250SX-F (Wifes)
    That's no joke.......I only stopped to pick up oil and filter for my wife's bike......
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  9. reveille Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern Illinois
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2014 FE501
    Other Motorcycles:
    2015 300 XC W
    OK, so I stopped in my local dealer. They had 2 2016's on the floor. Neither one had the mystery screw soooo...
    At this point I'm saying Husky did not address this issue as hoped. At least not here in the States.

    Oh ya, they had a 2015 TE300 calling my name too;)
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  10. Scott Howard Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Victoria, BC, Canada
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    FE350s, 701 enduro
    Other Motorcycles:
    650 V-strom, Beta 300RR
    Good point! It's not a bug, it's a FEATURE! The big tech companies do that ALL the time.
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  11. ohmygewd Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Melbourne, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    13'Berg FE350, 96'WR360, 01 WR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    Aprilia RSV1000
    I don't think it's been address as all the mags here in OZ don't mention anything about airbox/subframe changes as drastics as mounting brackets or screws.
  12. bikesparky Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Townsville Oztrailia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    FE501
    Other Motorcycles:
    Superduke 1290
    OK talked to a Husky mechanic and '16 model owner yesterday. Apparently the big deal extra screw is actually a tiny self tapper fitted where the side panel meets the centre subframe.
    I'll try to get a picture of it.
    Pretty much where the gap appears as shown in the picture. The screw goes in from the back side and not from the sides. All it does is where the subframe pulls apart it screws the tab on trough the plastic.
    The mechanic told me that it ripped out after two rides and he fitted an big size zip tie (not the length, big width) and some silicone which works better.

    Not my words, but he compared the fix to putting a band aid on a broken leg.
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  13. J3THRO Husqvarna

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2016 FE 501
    Other Motorcycles:
    '12 KTM 990 R , '13 WR450 ,
    There are the pics of my airbox where it meets the frame. I cant see any special screw anywhere.

    Attached Files:

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  14. Big Timmy Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    (South Eastern) AZ.
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2015 FE 501 with lots of goodies.
    Other Motorcycles:
    BMW G450X, 15'FE501, 23 KTM 1290 SAR
    J3THRO, this is exactly the same as my '15 FE 501, there is no gap. Bolt below the offset in the long upward seam at the bottom through a tab in the center section pointing outward above the chain going into the side piece. That I have already photographed and posted.

    This tab does not show up on the factory drawings of the sub frame assembly? '14 or '15 That I have seen and I believe were posted on here. At least I couldn't see anywhere in that computer generated drawing.

    So there is no hidden supplemental screws anywhere??
    Between the top and bottom screws up along this seam, Or where these others are coming up with a gap??

    My'15 FE501 has never been in a crash . Maybe I've dropped it a few times from a dead stop when I was across a narrow ravine or low spot and couldn't get a foot down far enough before it was already leaning so far I just let it fall over.

    But these few occasions were never enough to do any damage. Even to the rear airbox side panels. I do have a small dent in my FMF Muffler can though. Its more like a scratch with a 1 inch gouge. I'll pound it out on my set of Pexto sheetmetal workers mandrels maybe some day if I even bother. If and when I repack the muffler.

    I don't know why these others sub frames are opening up ?

    I believe the '15 and '16 are the same, No? Your '16 looks to me to be exactly like mine does.
  15. HS507 Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    NE Ohio
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Te 300
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yz450,crf150r,crf100f,crf50f
    16 has gap, can see it inside aur box, place light at fender and it will shine through, not a big deal, silicone it. I will post pick if someone still needs it
  16. reveille Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern Illinois
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2014 FE501
    Other Motorcycles:
    2015 300 XC W
    I used black silicone back 4000 miles ago. Still fine.
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  17. bikesparky Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Townsville Oztrailia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    FE501
    Other Motorcycles:
    Superduke 1290
    Yep, the good old sikaflex treatment. All good!
  18. Big Timmy Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    (South Eastern) AZ.
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2015 FE 501 with lots of goodies.
    Other Motorcycles:
    BMW G450X, 15'FE501, 23 KTM 1290 SAR
    Mine isn't separating yet and I'm 240lbs. after a good meal, plus riding gear and hydration pack all total probably a fat 265+lbs easy.

    Black Silicrack is where it's at. Not yet though. No noticeable gap really yet and no light escaping with a flashlight either.
  19. 250te2016 Husqvarna

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2016 250 TE
    First post to the site.
    I have a 2016 250TE and I can tell you right now the extra tab to keep it heald together doesn't make it any better. The plastic piece that the bolt goes through will rip, and the problem persists as it did in earlier years. The separation I have is well beyond repair. But for now I use black duct tape to seal the gap and it has helped. It has helped with my air filter getting dirty after just one ride. But to truly fix the problem I would need to order a new subframe. Until it completely fails I'll run it like this. Pics to show how big the gap actually is. 20161113_093942.jpg
  20. robertaccio Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    San Diego, Ca
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 Husqvarna TE300i
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 HusqvarnaTE610, 94 Husaberg FC501
    FYI from one of the 2 stroke section posts, remember these are flexible composite plastic, that means they really do move around quite abit and that means they can get tweaked into a "bad" open seam position.

    " John as you now see these assemblies are built up with replaceable components. My 2014 TE300 had quite a bit of seam opening tweak age, so when it was up at ZipTy Racing they pulled the sub frame assembly apart and simply reassembled it with some RTV sealant in the seams. All the split seam openings came back together, it was just tweaked from riding and needed to be freed up and reassembled. In this (your) case with broken section, you just remove the entire assembly and remove the component and replace it with new piece, I recommend reassembly with a high quality RTV sealant to improve the seam sealing. "