• Hi everyone,

    As you all know, Coffee (Dean) passed away a couple of years ago. I am Dean's ex-wife's husband and happen to have spent my career in tech. Over the years, I occasionally helped Dean with various tech issues.

    When he passed, I worked with his kids to gather the necessary credentials to keep this site running. Since then (and for however long they worked with Coffee), Woodschick and Dirtdame have been maintaining the site and covering the costs. Without their hard work and financial support, CafeHusky would have been lost.

    Over the past couple of weeks, I’ve been working to migrate the site to a free cloud compute instance so that Woodschick and Dirtdame no longer have to fund it. At the same time, I’ve updated the site to a current version of XenForo (the discussion software it runs on). The previous version was outdated and no longer supported.

    Unfortunately, the new software version doesn’t support importing the old site’s styles, so for now, you’ll see the XenForo default style. This may change over time.

    Coffee didn’t document the work he did on the site, so I’ve been digging through the old setup to understand how everything was running. There may still be things I’ve missed. One known issue is that email functionality is not yet working on the new site, but I hope to resolve this over time.

    Thanks for your patience and support!

V16 MOSS TOOL Update session screen shots

Flippin Moss tool, never fails to depress me. i have the eruption fitted and never want to go back to the husky shop.
waiting for the new hex code tool, thats what i'll be using.
 
Stallo.jpg
I see that the numbers correspond to those photographed at my update here in Italy. However, in another post I said that the problem of persistent deadlock even after updating with moss is due to some defective units which do not take the parameters set during the upgrade. I'm waiting for warranty replacement of the unit. But as long as I do not change I can not say anything. Unfortunately I do not think that much will never replace, the dealer is putting off forever with various excuses. As soon as I know something for sure I'll tell you.
as you can see from my picture, I already had the latest version of moss. .. But the deadlock was always Feature This so they tried to do it again, but unfortunately the situation has not changed
 
megatiker75. Can you explain what you mean by "deadlock" and which are the "defective units" you talk about please?
 
To stall mean that everyone is talking about. Of sudden engine shutdowns that occur at low speeds ... especially the standing start or after a delay and re-opening gas in a tight turn or an intersection. I fell because of one of these shutdowns of the bike. Unfortunately, however such sian defective units do not know and I do not think you will ever know. For now, husqvarna has OFFICIALLY stated this defect, they themselves do not seem to know what units are defective. FOr now it seems to be limited to those who replace them after several attempts to update the control unit continues to have problems. But as I said, until I get the new unit can not believe it.
 
Kiwiape... From megatiker75's other thread... The defective units referred to are the ecu's.

megatiker75 said:
Through an Italian boy who has read some of my posts on your forum, I recovered to a dealer who enlightened me about the issue that seems never to abandon some of us. (I'm one of them).
The dealer told me that a technician Husqbvarna told him that some of the units do not take TR650 stored data loaded by updating MOSS.
In fact my bike despite update still suffers from stalling. The good news (but to be taken with the tongs until they'll be successful) is that Husqvarna has recognized this problem and seem willing to replace defective units in the collateral. I called my dealer, I explained it and said I want a replacement. They told me that will order.
I will update later when I have new news.
hello everyone;)
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I am sorry, but no one likes to tell me further details about the update version and release date. It seems that it shall be probably a big big mystery :confused:

The only answer i got was, that in case of problems (e.g. stalling) the tps sensor and idle speed sensor shall be calibrated.
 
kiwiape said:
megatiker75. Can you explain what you mean by "deadlock" and which are the "defective units" you talk about please?
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I went to translate and typed in a few things. punto morto. that is deadlock. morto is like mortician and punto
Nordland said:
I am sorry, but no one likes to tell me further details about the update version and release date. It seems that it shall be probably a big big mystery :confused:

The only answer i got was, that in case of problems (e.g. stalling) the tps sensor and idle speed sensor shall be calibrated.
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Sounds about right, so next time you go to get it calibrated, before you go, adjust the idle set screw. Eventually someone will do this with good results and get back with what they did.
 
Further to my first post. With 200k's odd ridden now I can say I have lost ground with my bike having never run so bad:

Cold start - requires cranking - never did that before!!
Cold warm up - now splutters - never did that before!!
When warm - still splutters (no as much as when cold) but will stall as well!!
So I have gained a "splutter/bogg/flatspot" and not got ride of the stall...aaarrrrrhhh!!!

So now not happy at all, I hate losing ground when my back is against the wall!

Attached is the version I used note some of the numbers on the discs relate to some of the screen shots (ISTA 3.42).

There is a new version of the MOSS Tool out, its V17, I do not beleive it is of any use to us with no update available for our bike. If this changes I will post.

In summary, I cannot advise updating to V16, if your bike is running 95% good or better which is where I considered mine was until I update to V16.
 
It would seem that the best long term answer for the tune issues is a PCV and Auto Tune. Having read all that I can find,
the folks that have this installed have no problems. Don't like the cost but really, what is my time worth? I don't have any confidence that this will be adequately addressed any other way. I currently have the Eruption spoof and like it but I think the PCV-AT will be miles better.
 
KIWIAPE
The problem is just that. For there is nothing official on paper. What has happened is that a seller has only talked to a person at the factory husqvarna that would tell him of this problem to the control units. In fact, I'm waiting for the replacement to tell if this is real or just chatter.
 
Hey Kiwiape, Sorry to hear about the dramas, Q's, did your dealer pull the lambda sensor (O2) out and test it on the bench? With a multi meter and blow torch.

I believe its a narrow band type with preheat, a 4 wire unit. On the bench it should come up to 0.45 volts to 0.5 volts DC to get the 14.7 to 1 air fuel ratio. To much voltage is rich and to little is lean. Your screen shot shows a short...no voltage!

There are many Utube vids on this sensor, but I would have my dealer deal with it. Also the link to picoauto makes for some interesting reading, for example: the use of silicones may foul the sensor also.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QM2jO0_Cah0

http://www.picoauto.com/applications/lambda-sensor.html , Curtsey of Mag00 several months ago.

Hi Megatiker, By Control units do you mean ECU, fault? IMHO the stalling issue seems to be a combination of mixture and an electrical fault. Or can one spark plug foul the other? Maybe that's my next move.
My BP is now out of the mix, it was great for 7000klms
 
It seems that armed with the knowledge that the discs exist and they are executable on proprietary sofware that someone (experienced in coding and decoding) could figure out what makes our ECU's tick or at least make some inroads toward that endeavor. I am a techno dummy but I am really good at detailed stuff. I would be more than willing to help even if it is keeping detailed logs of what is found. Surely we have a BMW tech aboard somewhere that can give us some insight?

Sorry, Just venting a little and wishing a lot.
 
PaulC said:
Hey Kiwiape, Sorry to hear about the dramas, Q's, did your dealer pull the lambda sensor (O2) out and test it on the bench? With a multi meter and blow torch.

I believe its a narrow band type with preheat, a 4 wire unit. On the bench it should come up to 0.45 volts to 0.5 volts DC to get the 14.7 to 1 air fuel ratio. To much voltage is rich and to little is lean. Your screen shot shows a short...no voltage!

There are many Utube vids on this sensor, but I would have my dealer deal with it. Also the link to picoauto makes for some interesting reading, for example: the use of silicones may foul the sensor also.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QM2jO0_Cah0

http://www.picoauto.com/applications/lambda-sensor.html , Curtsey of Mag00 several months ago.

Hi Megatiker, By Control units do you mean ECU, fault? IMHO the stalling issue seems to be a combination of mixture and an electrical fault. Or can one spark plug foul the other? Maybe that's my next move.
My BP is now out of the mix, it was great for 7000klms
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Hey Paul, another trick hot rodders use is indexing the plugs. Have you tried that?
 
Hey Kiwi, I have a couple questions.

Are you running the spoofer at all?
Did you adjust the throttle butterfly?
When in the moss, have you found where to add or delete a key?


Thanks
 
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