• 4 Stroke Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Italy - About 1989 to 2014
     TE = 4st Enduro & TC = 4st Cross

  • Hi everyone,

    As you all know, Coffee (Dean) passed away a couple of years ago. I am Dean's ex-wife's husband and happen to have spent my career in tech. Over the years, I occasionally helped Dean with various tech issues.

    When he passed, I worked with his kids to gather the necessary credentials to keep this site running. Since then (and for however long they worked with Coffee), Woodschick and Dirtdame have been maintaining the site and covering the costs. Without their hard work and financial support, CafeHusky would have been lost.

    Over the past couple of weeks, I’ve been working to migrate the site to a free cloud compute instance so that Woodschick and Dirtdame no longer have to fund it. At the same time, I’ve updated the site to a current version of XenForo (the discussion software it runs on). The previous version was outdated and no longer supported.

    Unfortunately, the new software version doesn’t support importing the old site’s styles, so for now, you’ll see the XenForo default style. This may change over time.

    Coffee didn’t document the work he did on the site, so I’ve been digging through the old setup to understand how everything was running. There may still be things I’ve missed. One known issue is that email functionality is not yet working on the new site, but I hope to resolve this over time.

    Thanks for your patience and support!

TXC310R Fails

That was not my post. Mine was the Chevy post. The point being, something as fundamental as an oil pump should work. Every time. All the time.
 
Mike-AK, sorry but think you are wrong with your attitude ! All mechanical things break !
Those poor guys in Italy were sold down the river by BMW / KTM ! Not sure a couple of broken gears is all their fault ?

I have seen many a KTM break down, along with the Japs. It happens !
When you have a KTM with Husky badges next year, they will break down too !
But I wonder if it will be a F.O.C. warranty repair like now .....

By the way, the Oil Pump works fine, it was the Drive Gear that failed.
 
Is the oil pump gear near the clutch that wad fixed ( I'm not up on the new 4stroke) that was the first thing that came to mind when I started to read what happened or part of failed clutch bearing was left behind I have seen lots of different mistakes from dealers
 
DG Harv Serv said:
Mike-AK, sorry but think you are wrong with your attitude ! All mechanical things break !
Those poor guys in Italy were sold down the river by BMW / KTM ! Not sure a couple of broken gears is all their fault ?

I have seen many a KTM break down, along with the Japs. It happens !
When you have a KTM with Husky badges next year, they will break down too !
But I wonder if it will be a F.O.C. warranty repair like now .....

By the way, the Oil Pump works fine, it was the Drive Gear that failed.
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If you are happy with stuff that breaks, that is your prerogative. I prefer stuff that does not, and I have had many bikes, trucks, cars, lawnmowers, generators, etc that have run trouble free with basic maintenance. That is what I expect when I buy any other product.
 
Have to remember, these are all perfomance engines. Why does a drag racer build several engines the same. Same parts, same tolerances, etc..... but one mysteriously blows after couple 1/4 miles and others have no issue?

Robert plus 1 on the pos attitude!
 
dartyppyt said:
Have to remember, these are all perfomance engines. Why does a drag racer build several engines the same. Same parts, same tolerances, etc..... but one mysteriously blows after couple 1/4 miles and others have no issue?

Robert plus 1 on the pos attitude!
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The WR300 puts out loads more power than the TE/TXC 310 engine does, and I don't read much about them imploding.
 
Mike-AK said:
If you are happy with stuff that breaks, that is your prerogative. I prefer stuff that does not, and I have had many bikes, trucks, cars, lawnmowers, generators, etc that have run trouble free with basic maintenance. That is what I expect when I buy any other product.
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I suggest you give up Dirt Biking, lol !

We are talking about a couple of failures out of hundreds / thousands of bikes .
People don't post on here "my oil pump drive gear is good ", you only hear the bad .
So that's TWO people who have had a problem.
Hardly a reason for 200+ people to lose their jobs , is it ?

I'm not happy that my bike was one that broke, but I'm a realist !
If you buy a race bike and race it, you will get problems from time to time.

I have been riding dirt bikes since I was a kid (30+ years) and I can assure you they ALL BREAK from time to time !
 
DG Harv Serv said:
I suggest you give up Dirt Biking, lol !

We are talking about a couple of failures out of hundreds / thousands of bikes .
People don't post on here "my oil pump drive gear is good ", you only hear the bad .
So that's TWO people who have had a problem.
Hardly a reason for 200+ people to lose their jobs , is it ?

I'm not happy that my bike was one that broke, but I'm a realist !
If you buy a race bike and race it, you will get problems from time to time.

I have been riding dirt bikes since I was a kid (30+ years) and I can assure you they ALL BREAK from time to time !
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They lost their jobs because not enough people were buying the bikes they made to make it profitable for their owners. Same reason the Swedes sold Husqvarna to the Italians, and the same reason why the Italians sold it to the Germans, and the Germans sold it to the Austrians. Plain and simple. Like it or not. But that is the truth. KTM seems to be a pretty stable and profitable company. Hopefully they will bring some of those attributes to Husqvarna, along with engineers who understand how to design an oil pump drive gear.
 
you guys lighten up on each other. I had a failure. I think I understand what was the cause (thats important). the auto comp LHS ex valve adjustment will be to a gnats arse from now on. I have burned the "open" race map into the ecu and will have the FMF system iinstalled. If the open race map is anything like the black head 2012 TXC race ecu setting thats on my 2011 TE310, the bike will run much better with more rich smooth less poppy lean bottom end. It happened a decent time of year to take a little break anyway.
I was waiting and hinting at this fail to keep my rant emotions in check . Shtuff happens I'll fix it , this bike has raised my bar and now I'll just keep her longer than planned, incidently Ive decided to keep my 2011 TE310 as well for the sake of the lic plate! And yes I will have a 300 2T in the future as well, but that will be a while. Yes my 2011 has been stone reliable and remember the oil pump assembly is the exact same. Bright side I have a great support mechanism from my sponsor shop NCM (National City Motorcycles). This is my friends shop that did my TXC450 overhaul at @ 260 hours with great success and the owner now owns that bike.
I also have discount support from GP Motos and all the support of Cafe Husky (sounds like a plug!!) Anyway the motor is on the bench and next week the cyl is going to Wisconsin to Millenium tech and my Sidi boots are going to Sole Performance for a resole so rebuild the bike rebuild the boots and if I really need a ride fix --the 2011 TE310 (mod) is eady for action.
 
Mike-AK said:
They lost their jobs because not enough people were buying the bikes they made to make it profitable for their owners. Same reason the Swedes sold Husqvarna to the Italians, and the same reason why the Italians sold it to the Germans, and the Germans sold it to the Austrians. Plain and simple. Like it or not. But that is the truth. KTM seems to be a pretty stable and profitable company. Hopefully they will bring some of those attributes to Husqvarna, along with engineers who understand how to design an oil pump drive gear.
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And I hope you are happy riding your rebadged KTM (without the 2 year warranty) !

But what will you do if it ever breaks ........
 
My 2010 tc 250 lost it connecting rod bearing at less then 50 hours,big repair job. I have posted this many times I do not think these xlite motors are going to be remembered as the most reliable motors. On the other hand my 2008 cr 165 is still going strong and has been the best bike I have ever owned and I will buy another when it blows up.
 
Skimping on bearing size and quality in order to have a lightweight engine is probably not a good engineering strategy. Somehow the KTM 350's with their non "X-Lite" motors weigh in less than the Husky 310's. Perhaps the better strategy is to pare the weight where it is not critical and leave room for beefier bearings, etc., in the engine and gearbox where they are needed.
 
DG Harv Serv said:
And I hope you are happy riding your rebadged KTM (without the 2 year warranty) !

But what will you do if it ever breaks ........
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2-year warranty? Try 30 days. And my buddies 300 EXC doesn't seem to break, and he rides the crap out of it.
 
About 5 years ago I had 2 new Fords fail within weeks of buying. Ive owned lots of cars and many of them Fords....but one of those failures was the CVT tranny blowing on the one I had given to my Dad (he ONLY drives Fords)...with his wife in the car, on a 100 degree day on a shadeless stretch of road north of Winnemucca...... I was more that a little pissed off. Sure they fixed it, but that does nothing for my worries about an 85 year old couple baking in the sun. The other one was my wifes Focus which died on the freeway. I managed to roll it off a ramp and establish that no fuel was flowing....and then traced that to the emergency shutoff switch which was improperly installed.

First situation was caused by specifying an inadequate transmission. Lets say engineers and managers own that one.
Second was clearly the fault of whoever did assembly.

I expressed my displeasure to everyone available, from the dealer on up ( I dont know the email address of the assembly person ;) )

I have bought other Fords since, of various vintage and design. None have failed. Ive also bought a Mercedes which had some annoying flaws, which were correctable at a price $$. A BMW Z3 that required me to spend some forum time correcting. GMC, Chevy..

Aint none of them perfect. I do some level of hassle vs value analysis regularly...some things are worth dealing with, some are not.
So far everything Ive done to both my 449/511s and 250/310s has fallen into the 'worth dealing with' category.

Your accounting my vary depending on actual pain and perception of value.
 
Mike-AK said:
Skimping on bearing size and quality in order to have a lightweight engine is probably not a good engineering strategy. Somehow the KTM 350's with their non "X-Lite" motors weigh in less than the Husky 310's. Perhaps the better strategy is to pare the weight where it is not critical and leave room for beefier bearings, etc., in the engine and gearbox where they are needed.
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It is not good engineering.
This is the main problem that we had with the 449's. It is also a major problem on all 310's from 2010 to 2013. It isn't so much the size of the bearing, but the design of the bearing, races and it's oil pathways. Also, little known fact is that the way the oil flows through will push the rod towards the correct side. We redesigned the crankshafts and the bearings on both the 449's and the 310's allowing them to function properly and increase the reliability. The bearings in the KTM 350s are similar size to the Husky 310s, but they spent big money designing their pathways correctly.
 
Tinken said:
It is not good engineering. ...but they spent big money designing their pathways correctly.
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Putting on my business manager hat.... making better engineering choices doesn't necessarily cost more......

Sometimes their guys are just smarter, or make better decisions, or have more experience because they've been exposed to more. Maybe the KTM way actually leads to better dirt bikes, more of the time? (I got plenty of counter examples to that one though :))

If we talk about PDS, most of us would say that it is a weak engineering choice, wrapped up in 'simpler, lighter weight' marketing message to blur that fact that it is also the cheaper choice ;) .
 
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