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Trouble Starting 630 In Gear

worker said:
have the same problem with new 630 -- very hard to find neutral when the bike is at the stop.
Also the clutch lever does not appear to fully dis engage the clutch (so finding neutral to roll on foot is the only option)

my method to get to neutral at the light is
switch to second
and the light tapping down (with about 1 sec interval) till I see green light on N
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HI there, i've been doing the same thing as you.
i hope time and mileage on the bike will improve finding neutral easier!

Enirque
 
CJBROWN said:
At the risk of starting WWIII I am going to suggest that you might try Amsoil motorcyle oil. They do have a 20-50 I run in all my bikes. It was the only lubricant in the old GasGas bikes that would let them shift like butter and not slip the clutch. On the owners forum they tried everything under the sun. It always worked the best. I'll bet my bottom dollar it will make for easy in-gear starts and easier to find neutral. It is a class IV/V full synthetic ester based motor oil with a high TBN additive package.

As soon as mine hits a thousand miles that's what it will get. I run it in everything I own. And no, I'm not going to try and sell anyone oil. :D

I'll post a follow up after mine gets changed out. Might be a few weeks depending on how much I have a chance to get out and ride.
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Hi cjbrown,

Im from australia, i've never heard of amsoil oil. Im pretty sure we dont have that here. I just purchases a husky 630 last week and I've had trouble finding neutral as well.

I'm keen to try a 20-50. the dealer recommends motul 7000. what do you think?

thanks cj

Enrique
 
tool46n2 said:
Have a brand new SM630 and the only way I can get the bike started is in neutral. Clutch pulled in and in first gear, the bike just keeps turning over and I am noticing a bit of creep/surging as well...anyone else experienced this? Also, finding neutral is a pain in the but...I have been riding for years on numerous different bikes and have never experienced such a small increment to find neutral. Don't know if these issues are connected somehow.

thanks

Brian
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HI brian,
just read your post. i totally agree with everything you've written. i too have ridden and owned a few bikes myself and my 630 encounters the same issue with the neutral you have written about.

just bought my bike last week and went for my first ride yesterday and found excactly the same thing.

i just wanted to know whether you have put more miles on your bike and has the situation improved. i only have 150kms on my bike.

thanks,
enrique
 
Mine´s now done 8000 kms. And I´ve just had to get used to the fact that neutral´s just not easy to find every time. The most useful suggestion from the above posts was to to push the bike back a few inches. This makes it much easier. Like the side stand ...you can get used to most things.
 
Same here on my bike 5,000 miles (8,000 km). Last 2,300 miles I have been using Castrol ActEvo 20W50 bike specific oil. Shifts perfect but finding Neutral is still hit or miss from a stop. Like Organ Donor says best option if already stopped is just to slightly rock your bike forward and back and inch or so. Tap the shifter while rocking and it drops right into neutral.

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Supermono31 said:
Hi cjbrown,

Im from australia, i've never heard of amsoil oil. Im pretty sure we dont have that here. I just purchases a husky 630 last week and I've had trouble finding neutral as well.

I'm keen to try a 20-50. the dealer recommends motul 7000. what do you think?

thanks cj

Enrique
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You can google or yahoo search for Amsoil in Australia, there are a couple of distributors now. If you want to learn more about the product you can browse the factory site: www.amsoil.com

They have a whitepaper on motorcycle oils that is pretty revealing.

Motul is a great product as is Motorex. But they're both a Euro product and stupid expensive.
 
Supermono31 said:
HI brian,
just read your post. i totally agree with everything you've written. i too have ridden and owned a few bikes myself and my 630 encounters the same issue with the neutral you have written about.

just bought my bike last week and went for my first ride yesterday and found excactly the same thing.

i just wanted to know whether you have put more miles on your bike and has the situation improved. i only have 150kms on my bike.

thanks,
enrique
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I don't have too many miles on it at all...I drive it around the city only...I bet I don't have more than 100 miles on it. I just gotten better at finding neutral.
 
I have a 43 sprocket and chain waiting to be put on. And adding some battery tender leads to the battery. But other than that...its in the garage for the winter.
 
Just as you are rolling to a stop and you know that you are in first, blip the throttle and click up to neutral. It takes the preload off the trans and it slips right in. Even when you are stopped, in first, with the cluch in, blip the throttle while clicking up into neutral and it seems to find it every time, at least with mine.
Amsoil 20-50 for me...so far ao good!
 
Mine finally got enough miles on it (1250) that I felt it was ready for full synthetic, so Amsoil 20-50 for mine too. Doesn't matter when you look for neutral, just clicks in, even full stop at idle.

As mentioned, it was the only oil that would work in the GasGas motors from '97 to about '03. The earlier ones had bushed shift shafts and other oils would drag and they were hard to shift, or if too slick the clutch would slip. ATF was about second place, but you can't get away with that on a 4T motor.
 
i have not read every post in this thread but a poor shifting husky or one that does not start well in gear may need to have the clutch push rod update done to their bike.check with your dealer on this.dan
 
I notice this more when riding on tight trails and using the clutch.
Lowered the fluid level in the clutch master, bled the system, and
haven't noticed the clutch drag since.
 
tool46n2 said:
I have a 43 sprocket and chain waiting to be put on. And adding some battery tender leads to the battery. But other than that...its in the garage for the winter.
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wow, 43 seems really oversized don't you think. You might be struggling to do 120kms /hour.
With gearing this short, you'll obviously have a lot of acceleration but a much lower top speed.

at this stage, I'm contemplating a 40 rear and the very most a 42. just a thought.

thanks for the reply.
Enrique
 
Supermono31 said:
wow, 43 seems really oversized don't you think. You might be struggling to do 120kms /hour.
With gearing this short, you'll obviously have a lot of acceleration but a much lower top speed.

at this stage, I'm contemplating a 40 rear and the very most a 42. just a thought.

thanks for the reply.
Enrique
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Geez I'm getting old...or did I remember correctly that the stock gearing was 15-42. I put a 14T counter on right away and love it. Crawl speed is low enough for tight maneuvering but the thing will still cruise 75-80 at just over 5 grand. Even at slower speeds, 45-55 I'll still run it at 45-4800. Seems smooth there.

So I'm not sure why you're wanting to gear it even taller. I wouldn't even mind going up to a 44 or 45 if I was doing all dirt and single track. Maybe a bit low but it will still cruise 70 no problem.

This gearbox has got to be the best ever.
 
Supermono31 said:
wow, 43 seems really oversized don't you think. You might be struggling to do 120kms /hour.
With gearing this short, you'll obviously have a lot of acceleration but a much lower top speed.

at this stage, I'm contemplating a 40 rear and the very most a 42. just a thought.

thanks for the reply.
Enrique
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I think stock is 15-38. 43 seems to be a popular mod size. I cant remember what the top end is but when I did the research it seemed ok. Here's a link to a great gearing calculator http://www.gearingcommander.com/

Also, here is a huge discussion on gearing http://www.cafehusky.com/threads/gearing-recommendations-for-630-sms.19335/
 
Right...but still...the 43 is fine for my SM purpose...I drive primarily in downtown environment. I may take it on the highway about twice a year. So 43 will be fine for my riding.
 
tool46n2 said:
Right...but still...the 43 is fine for my SM purpose...I drive primarily in downtown environment. I may take it on the highway about twice a year. So 43 will be fine for my riding.
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ok. thanks guys. i'll give a couple of options a try. I might start at a 42 rear.
 
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