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trials tires

josh310

Husqvarna
AA Class
i have herd so many good things about them i decided to order one. i ordered a dunlop 803 and i hope to get it on for this weekend. what air pressure should i run and what should i expect from this thing?
 
I ran Michelins for years and loved them. Tire pressure was 2-4 PSI lower than what your currently running. Expect it to work just like any other tire but with more grip and better wear. They seam to last for ever for me.
 
I put a Pirelli MT43 on my 510 recently. So far so good. The MT43 is a bias ply tire, somewhat stiffer than the radials. The tire is much larger in OD than a standard knobby. It required an extra chain link to push the tire away from the shock absorber mud flap.
 
my first impressions after last weekends ride were that i was really impressed with this tire. we started off in a big sand wash and headed to the montains . i road up some nasty hills, through mudd, snow, and deep creeks and never once did the tire let me down. if this tire holds up i will never go back to a nobby
 
I did it two years ago. I run the Pirelli MT43 4.00x18 @ 8lbs on my 08 TE450 and love it! you give up using the rear end for turning somewhat but now that the tire is 1/2 worn out I can slide the rear and still have incredible traction. My new 09 bike came with the knobby but I have a Trials tire waiting..
 
I've only used trials tires on observed trials bikes. My friends that use trials tires report that they generally love them for most terrain, except for snow and mud. Then the guys that I ride with that can ride circles around me for the most part, get left behind in any
snow and mud.
 
I've used a MT43 with the Neutech Tubliss set up @ 4-6 psi and it is great on every surface but sticky mud and loose sand, I've never tried it in snow. It sticks like velcro to wet slippery rocks and logs and hooks up hard in tacky dirt like a knobby without tearing up trails. It is not easy to steer with the rear of the bike like you can with a knobby and you can't roost your buddies with as much authority. It really lacks in bottomless river bank sand and gravel unless the sand is wet and packed. The MT43 will grow at high speed like a drag tire so even with 13-52 gearing I could hit 72mph on my WR250 and it was very stable at that speed. It grows in diameter so much it's like having an extra gear. An extra link in the chain is a must or you will waste your mud flap. The MT43 hooks just as good worn and will outlast a stack of knobby tires. Almost everywhere in the MO Ozarks is ideal for a trials tire except my back yard which is clay that is like ice when wet also the knobby helps keep the jungle growth off the trails. The #1 place where the trials tire outshines the knobby is when you get hung up on a log or rock with no momentum on the side of a hill. The trials tire will just grip and crawl over it while the knobby spins and digs a hole in the loose rocks and makes it worse. Losing momentum rarely happens to really good riders which may be why you don't see many trials tires on the back of the pro's bikes.
 
I use an MT43 always and for everything now, I've tried pretty much all the trials tires out there and the MT43 lasts the longest and wont throw knobs like the others. The MT43 doesn't work as well as the rest but it's a great compromise for longevity and non-squirlyness at speed on hard pack or pavement. The Dunlop is a great tire but watch out if you ride any pavement, it will walk around in the turns. I run around 8-9 PSI, any higher and you're not getting the benefits of a trials tire.
 
I use an MT43 always and for everything now, I've tried pretty much all the trials tires out there and the MT43 lasts the longest and wont throw knobs like the others. The MT43 doesn't work as well as the rest but it's a great compromise for longevity and non-squirlyness at speed on hard pack or pavement. The Dunlop is a great tire but watch out if you ride any pavement, it will walk around in the turns. I run around 8-9 PSI, any higher and you're not getting the benefits of a trials tire.


Pretty much nailed it.

If you run rocks and roots a lot and all off road the Dunlop 803 is hard to beat.
 
I've tried the MT-43 & the D803..... I like them both, but seem to gravitate back to the Dunlop for no reason really. I run Tubliss & it's 4-6 pounds in the tire. I had a puncture in the tire that went all the way through the red liner & the bladder in the Tubliss system, spoke with the guys at Nutech & they told me I was doing it wrong.... I asked him what he was talking about & he said that instead of running the S-12 on the front & a trials tire on the rear I should run the hardest tire I could find. Desert, hard pack, you name it.... And then just run 3 psi in it. He says the much stiffer sidewall will not cut as easily & running 3 psi will make any tire into a trials tire. Hell, I'm gonna try a Maxxis IT next tire change & see what is up.....
 
Loving the Motoz Enduro IT front for a great all around tire. This tire works great for mud to hard pack and lasts forever. Buddy of mine i rode with yesterday has 1700 miles on his front one and it looks great and hooks up great. Looks half done, Amazing. Just mounted one to my GG for the summer and loving it already. Also DOT rated so legal for street. I run one on my TE511 and love it there too.

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Kelly, I take it take those are in stock? Price? and do they have the taller side walls like the Motoz I bought from you in the past??? What does the front look like too??? Thanks
 
Loving the Motoz Enduro IT front for a great all around tire. This tire works great for mud to hard pack and lasts forever. Buddy of mine i rode with yesterday has 1700 miles on his front one and it looks great and hooks up great. Looks half done, Amazing. Just mounted one to my GG for the summer and loving it already. Also DOT rated so legal for street. I run one on my TE511 and love it there too.

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Just ran mine hard in the woods here last weekend, thanks for turning me on to these Kelly, I love them. The only problem I had was a big arse root in a rut, but I think anybody would have had issues there.

Im debating tubliss on these Motoz, I run the pavement for very short trips and I understand they are not pavement approved, does that make them not safe or just not tested?
 
Think they are pavement approved (motoz) I think they are excellent tyres and well worh considering. A top piece of Aussie design and engineering.
 
Nice! I wish a few more Motoz tyres would make their way to the U.K. - I'm beginning to fear that the manufacturers are Aussie Republicans and don't want the "old country" to enjoy 'em! ;)

I've been running an MT43 rear for a couple of years now and am having good results but I agree with josh310 that it can push the front a little in certain conditions ( hairpins in dry, grassy fields spring to mind), but as there are a lot of slippery ascents / descents here I can live with it. I will ask my shop guy about that Motoz front though, just in case he can get his hands on one.
 
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