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Tire testing with Tubliss

Big Timmy said:
bikesparky,

When I went to the Tubliss system. Speaking directly to them on the phone. I was told to use the original formula "Armor All" tire and rubber preservative product on the bladder tube for an installation lube only. To also spray "Armor All" heavily on the lip of the new tire a few times as well.

Then once I begin to mount the tire. I was told to use nothing but "Tire Slime" as a lubricant to mount the tire. They told me on the phone to not have or use any soapy water anywhere in sight. Once the tire is nearly on. Before you finish the last 10" to 12" inches of the bead left to go to lever it on. Pry the gap open with a tire lever after I stand it up and squirt about an 8 ounce bottle of the same "Tire Slime" right into the open bead and then finish levering the tire on. They said, Soapy water mixed with the "Tire Slime" product makes the "Tire Slime" not work.

We have tons of huge thorns here in the AZ desert and I ride over them all the time. I have pulled several big thorns out of my tires with even a few big enough I had to use my multi pliers I carry and they have sealed themselves right up. I have never lost any air yet running this set up like this on either the front or rear tire with the Tubliss system.

I carry a simple "Dyna Plug kit" and a small progressive suspension 300 PSI capable hand pump with a built in check valve. I have never had to use either of them for myself, yet. I know there's always that first time.

I have used the "Dyna Plug" tool on a Buddies quad once. He is still riding it like that nearly a year later.
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Wow i wonder why jeff has never mentioned this, only soapy water, chic on video never mentioned slime either. Weird
 
Big Timmy said:
bikesparky,

When I went to the Tubliss system. Speaking directly to them on the phone. I was told to use the original formula "Armor All" tire and rubber preservative product on the bladder tube for an installation lube only. To also spray "Armor All" heavily on the lip of the new tire a few times as well.

Then once I begin to mount the tire. I was told to use nothing but "Tire Slime" as a lubricant to mount the tire. They told me on the phone to not have or use any soapy water anywhere in sight. Once the tire is nearly on. Before you finish the last 10" to 12" inches of the bead left to go to lever it on. Pry the gap open with a tire lever after I stand it up and squirt about an 8 ounce bottle of the same "Tire Slime" right into the open bead and then finish levering the tire on. They said, Soapy water mixed with the "Tire Slime" product makes the "Tire Slime" not work.

We have tons of huge thorns here in the AZ desert and I ride over them all the time. I have pulled several big thorns out of my tires with even a few big enough I had to use my multi pliers I carry and they have sealed themselves right up. I have never lost any air yet running this set up like this on either the front or rear tire with the Tubliss system.

I carry a simple "Dyna Plug kit" and a small progressive suspension 300 PSI capable hand pump with a built in check valve. I have never had to use either of them for myself, yet. I know there's always that first time.

I have used the "Dyna Plug" tool on a Buddies quad once. He is still riding it like that nearly a year later.
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Thanks for the tip Timmy!
I do have some negative experiences with this stuff before when it first came out ages ago. it used to leave a big gluey mess at tyre changes that no amount of detergent or chemical would remove.
I guess they might have updated the formula a few times since then.
How does it wash off when you need to swap the tyre? Does it stick to the tubeliss on the inside too?
 
I have never had sealing experiences that alot speak of hear on forum. Lots of soapy water and follow instructions, watch chic with sleeved tats on nuetec sight and works perfect. If it doesnt seal on low side just crack seal and add more soapy and try again.
 
I can run 10psi on my at81 with tube no problem but tubliss is a great bead locker. I run 7psi with tubliss, anything less feels terrible. I just run rear, front is tube. Switching to perelli mt16 soon
 
I use quadboss atv sealant instead of slime. It flows better and seals bigger holes but really either should be fine. No soapy water for me either.
 
I switched to Tubliss to save weight and increase traction. Plenty of thorns here, but none big enough to pop a tire. Worst is slate embedded is ruts and trails. I usually carry big, steel reinforced cable ties to tie the tire to the rim if necessary. Still running a tube up front. Haven't had a flat in a long, (knock on wood) long time. Will go Tubliss on the front of the 300 soon, I think.
I like some original Armor All, spray the Tubliss with it and tire and rim for mounting. Made a mess with Slime once and avoided it since then. sounds like the way to go though. :cheers:
 
If you guys decide to use slime brand sealant, make sure to use the tubeless type. They have a couple different kinds out there.
 
I use 6 oz of tire sealant. I used to use Berryman but it got hard to find so I switched to Slime, I dont think slime is as good but it is easy to find a puncture because of it's bright green color.. the Berryman was white.

I had the Tubliss set up in 3 bikes, front and back and have installed many more in friends bikes. I did have one recent failure due to the rim tape getting cooked and the edge actually got hard enough to cut the high pressure tube. Tubliss has changed to a different tape so I thought I should warn anyone with an older set up to go with the newer tape. The old tape has Tubliss inked on it with white ink on black shiny tape. My set up was 4 years old, had gone through several tires and if I would have changed to the upgraded tape it would still be perfect.. Just a heads up.
 
lankydoug said:
I use 6 oz of tire sealant. I used to use Berryman but it got hard to find so I switched to Slime, I dont think slime is as good but it is easy to find a puncture because of it's bright green color.. the Berryman was white.

I had the Tubliss set up in 3 bikes, front and back and have installed many more in friends bikes. I did have one recent failure due to the rim tape getting cooked and the edge actually got hard enough to cut the high pressure tube. Tubliss has changed to a different tape so I thought I should warn anyone with an older set up to go with the newer tape. The old tape has Tubliss inked on it with white ink on black shiny tape. My set up was 4 years old, had gone through several tires and if I would have changed to the upgraded tape it would still be perfect.. Just a heads up.
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9 wraps electrical
 
Big Timmy said:
Ok, Here's what I put on to replace the Sedona 907 rear tire I took off after about 38 hours time.

I swapped this out last weekend and rode the bike yesterday. It is a climbing beast. We had a little cool down last week and 2 days of sporadic rain but it was still dry and compact out yesterday.

This is a "Kings 9661 Desert" Hard/intermediate Enduro tire. Its DOT approved and had excellent straight line hook up but of course it seems all new tires do.

I've had it sitting around for a few years. I don't think I paid more than $65.00 for this tire. Its a 120/100/18" size.

It was a bitch to get on with the "Tubliss", but so have all the other tires I've mounted. It has a very stiff sidewall. I ran it at only 5lbs. pressure and I will try lowering it to about 3lbs and ride it like that next time out. It should easily handle that low pressure setting as its very stiff.

It has heavy built in side wall rim protection. Reinforced side knobs and considering the rocks and climbs I rode yesterday for 45 miles it held up really well. The knobs don't roll over the sides of the tire very far like an FIM style tire but it took only a few miles to figure out its side bite when backing it into a turn and sliding it.

Forward traction is very good. Its a hard stiff tire, was very inexpensive, is a lesser known brand and should hold up to a few good months of riding until the late summer monsoons hit us here. At that point I'll change it out to something more suitable for the wet weather. I have a new "Sedona 887 and a 907" just sitting there waiting.

It absolutely amazes me how an inexpensive tire running the "Tubliss" system can allow that tire to perform so well. Its all about the low, low pressure and laying down some footprint.

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Sure looks identical to a perrelli mt16
 
Big Timmy said:
It absolutely amazes me how an inexpensive tire running the "Tubliss" system can allow that tire to perform so well. Its all about the low, low pressure and laying down some footprint.
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I like that part too, but I'm wanting to trim some fat from the 300 and the cheaper tires are consistently heavier. I'm looking for a compromise. For example, Kenda Parker 120 weighs over 14 lbs, IRC VE33 5.10 weighs @ 12, so 12 lbs is my target for now. I didn't weight the Shinko 520, but I'd guess 14-15 lbs.
 
Yeah, common tread pattern, but that has some variations. I like all the angled knobs and center treads.
Of the tires I've got or am considering only the Sedona is substantially cheaper. I'm looking forward to running the 880 soon.
I'm down to 6psi with the Shinko and no issues :thumbsup:
 
Anyone knows what could cause a failure like this? Been using it for a few months now and never had any problems.
Swapped tires 3 times but always lubed and installed following the instructions.
This is the front, always inflate the inner tube to 100psi before riding out of the door and the tire itself was at 10psi.
it seems the plastic "protection" washer has cut through the inner tube.
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Looks like the tube being inflated has cut that out, you didnt tighten the lock ring against the rim did you?
 
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