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Tire Foam vs Tire Balls- Who has them installed? Opinions?

Sandgroper

Sandgroper

Husqvarna
AA Class
Im looking at ordering one of the below systems for open desert riding on my TXC 510

Any other Husky owners using these ?

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columbia510;89289 said:
Look into the tubliss system. Really easy to install and low maintence.
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Im not sure about the Tubliss system as you can still get a flat tire where as the other 2 options its pretty much impossible.

Is this correct?
 
my buddy has given up on the tire ball system,hes used them for over two years and we ride tons of rocks,but he has been riding only groomed MX tracks and tight new jersey enduros with little rocks,he has to replace at least one or two of those balls every other ride,they are not cheap to replace,and the last time he removed the wheel half of them were flat,and he didnt know by riding it,but FWIW I havent tried them
 
I think the point of moving to a different system is to avoid your ride being ruined by a flat tire.
If your mate only realised some of the balls were flat after he removed the tire Id say they did their job, wouldnt you?
 
Sandgroper;89384 said:
I think the point of moving to a different system is to avoid your ride being ruined by a flat tire.
If your mate only realised some of the balls were flat after he removed the tire Id say they did their job, wouldnt you?
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Yes it would seem that they did their job but I think the point he was trying to make is the cost involved of replacing them every other ride.

The bib mousse iserts also break down over time depending on how hard conditions are.
 
bib mousse's are only good for a few hundred KM of hard riding, are a PITA to work with and give a heavy/dead feeling in the wheels- plus they used to be kinda expensive- don't know if they still are.....?.

Either go with UHD tubes, or the Tubliss system.

At least with the Tubliss, a flat is real easy to fix- generally done in less than 5 minutes.
 
The mousse and balls really seem to be designed for hard open racing where a flat would basically ruin your chance to win. The people who use them basically replace them after each hard race. There is a huge question over longevity V's cost. I understand heat and friction causes rapid deterioration. I think for general use UHD tubes or tubeliss is best,
 
with tubliss if you cut the tire or puncture it your done especially if its the front tire. I know a racer who got a slash cut on the front and the bike was unraceable, race over. If you got to finish, mousse or t balls are it. uhd tubes work great for mere mortals. get a flat and there is still plenty of rubber in there to provide some side wall support!!
 
I carry plugs for car/atv with the tubliss system. Super easy to install and never need to take the tubliss out even when spooning on new rubber.
 
Put a little Slime in with the Tubliss setup. It provides some puncture protection and also lubes the system if you're running low pressures where contact may occur with between the tire and the Tubliss sytem.
 
I think the point of moving to a different system is to avoid your ride being ruined by a flat tire.
If your mate only realised some of the balls were flat after he removed the tire Id say they did their job, wouldnt you?
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you are correct,he did finish the race,he ended up riding 50 miles on basically a lfat tire because he did not knoe half were popped,cost him a new rim as his rim lock actually wore through the rim!
 
That is an awesome video. Never thought that it could get so many punctures and still have pressure. I'd like to see how Slime would compare to that stuff.
 
David Knight loves the Mousse. He's typically a Michelin sponsored dude but at Alligator this year he was spooning on Pirelli tires but I stood there and watched him put a Michelin Mousse in it.

I don't like the idea of putting slim in my tubeless tires because it gunks up your tools, air pressure guage and pumps. And that's not a gunk you can easily get off.

It's a tubeliss rear and UHD front for me.
 
FYI -- Stan's No Tubes is a system for mountain bike tires which is similar to Tubliss. I've used it for a couple of years on my mountain bikes and it works great -- no flats, ever.

I haven't made the investment into Tubliss yet -- but can see the advantages. If I did, I'd puts some of Stan's sealant in just in case. I think it would work great by have no first hand knowledge of it on dirt bikes. Seems logical to me though.
 
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