• 4 Stroke Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Italy - About 1989 to 2014
     TE = 4st Enduro & TC = 4st Cross

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    As you all know, Coffee (Dean) passed away a couple of years ago. I am Dean's ex-wife's husband and happen to have spent my career in tech. Over the years, I occasionally helped Dean with various tech issues.

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TE 310 vs KTM 350 exc-f vs Beta 350 RR

glangston said:
I might get a chance to check out the Beta if George gets the 3 bikes in he ordered. A 450 had a very smooth (counterbalanced) engine and wide ratio trans
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The 2011 450rr I rode had a very smooth powerful motor. By today's 450's it was not exciting at all but who needs the wild powerband on single track??

BYOB is great but don't buy the bike at those prices!
 
I would hope the xlite motors will last past 8,000 miles if maintained well enough.

And I would think how you ride the bike directly coorelates to how long the engine lasts? If I'm riding it vs a professional enduro rider - with same maintenence intervals - I would suspect that it would last longer for me because I'm not 'working' the engine nearly as hard as an enduro rider would. Mainly because I'm riding on backcountry roads and easier trails where I'm not pushing the bike constantly to it's limits.
 
henson802 said:
I would hope the xlite motors will last past 8,000 miles if maintained well enough.

And I would think how you ride the bike directly coorelates to how long the engine lasts? If I'm riding it vs a professional enduro rider - with same maintenence intervals - I would suspect that it would last longer for me because I'm not 'working' the engine nearly as hard as an enduro rider would. Mainly because I'm riding on backcountry roads and easier trails where I'm not pushing the bike constantly to it's limits.
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I would agree however when I asked this question, one highly respected Husky dealer said NO WAY. "Even under normal use (not pro rider) you will be luckly to see 4,000 miles" per rebuild. I want to think this was a bit stretched but other dealers backed him up just no one added a milage limit.
 
henson802 said:
I would hope the xlite motors will last past 8,000 miles if maintained well enough.

And I would think how you ride the bike directly coorelates to how long the engine lasts? If I'm riding it vs a professional enduro rider - with same maintenence intervals - I would suspect that it would last longer for me because I'm not 'working' the engine nearly as hard as an enduro rider would. Mainly because I'm riding on backcountry roads and easier trails where I'm not pushing the bike constantly to it's limits.
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I'm inclined to agree .... My 08 TXC250 went 950 hrs (> ~15,000 miles) with this mind set and type of riding... Surely these xlites will touch half those numbers and the engine still be intact ...
 
Weantright said:
I would agree however when I asked this question, one highly respected Husky dealer said NO WAY. "Even under normal use (not pro rider) you will be luckly to see 4,000 miles" per rebuild. I want to think this was a bit stretched but other dealers backed him up just no one added a milage limit.
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Care to say who and what place told you this? Seems odd that Husqvarna would invest in a dual sport bike where the engine is 'lucky to see 4,000 miles'... and still costing 7.5k
 
My research started when I was looking to update my bike. Took every Beta dealer listed on Beta’s website that had a multi brand with either KTM or Husky. Talked to people that have ridden both Beta and a KTM or Husky at these dealerships. I asked to compare the bikes side by side and to what the expected life of motor would be. Just about all said the Husky would be the first to need a rebuild and several saying these x-lite motors do not make a good DS. I am not hiding anything but I also don’t want to rat out dealers that spoke their mind truthfully. I may need them in the future because I own a Husky. If it was just one or two dealers saying this I would be skeptical but it wasn’t. With a race bred F1 style motor, longevity is something that wasn’t top on the design list. Why do you think the 310 can run with 350-400’s??
 
Weantright said:
My research started when I was looking to update my bike. Took every Beta dealer listed on Beta’s website that had a multi brand with either KTM or Husky. Talked to people that have ridden both Beta and a KTM or Husky at these dealerships. I asked to compare the bikes side by side and to what the expected life of motor would be. Just about all said the Husky would be the first to need a rebuild and several saying these x-lite motors do not make a good DS. I am not hiding anything but I also don’t want to rat out dealers that spoke their mind truthfully. I may need them in the future because I own a Husky. If it was just one or two dealers saying this I would be skeptical but it wasn’t. With a race bred F1 style motor, longevity is something that wasn’t top on the design list. Why do you think the 310 can run with 350-400’s??
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Well I do believe since the 310 is a bored out 250, that it would NOT last as long as a normal 250 or 450 -- or 350 for that matter. But I still think 4,000 miles is extremely low for it if you plan to use it as a dual sport (not riding it like a pro enduro rider would)... With the suggested maitenence required. Just my belief, but I suppose Husqvarna dealerships would know better than me.

I think a more fair comparison to the 350s would be the TE 449 - not a bored out 250 (TE 310). But it is what it is :banana:
 
310 Husky X-Lite is not a bored out 250. Different boreAND stroke. Older red head engines had Athena kits then factory kits (maybe still Athena) which were just piston/cylinder kits
 
henson802 said:
Well I do believe since the 310 is a bored out 250, that it would NOT last as long as a normal 250 or 450 -- or 350 for that matter. But I still think 4,000 miles is extremely low for it if you plan to use it as a dual sport (not riding it like a pro enduro rider would)... With the suggested maitenence required. Just my belief, but I suppose Husqvarna dealerships would know better than me.

I think a more fair comparison to the 350s would be the TE 449 - not a bored out 250 (TE 310). But it is what it is :banana:
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The post was about the 300cc class of DS bikes. If Husky needs to have a 450+ bike to compete then it's not apples to apples comparison anymore. Even if it was a bored out 250 it's still a factory sold bike. How long will these new X-lite motors last?? time will tell as most people don't have much time on them vs. the older red head motor.
 
I suppose - but the TE 449 weight, chassis, price (actually probably still cheaper) , and type of riding you use it for seems to resemble the 350's more than the 310. But you are right, the article is about 300cc class DS bikes.
 
450's are to much bike for me. Sh!$ a 250 is to much bike but wanted that little extra ump for those hidden puddles that appear just around the corner.
 
Weantright said:
450's are to much bike for me. Sh!$ a 250 is to much bike but wanted that little extra ump for those hidden puddles that appear just around the corner.
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the TE449/511 is a smooth kitten of a bike in stock form and a ripper in uncorked form. Great do it all bike.
 
Smooth but the torque pull all day long is what tires me. Beta has one of the best 450 motor out there for smooth electric like power.
 
Not yet, It's just hard for me to get past the OMG muffler! Serious side, for a 449 to fit my riding style it would have to be extremely lame stock bike. When I am in the tight stuff, big motors tire me and I can do the same on a small bore with energy left. I also see the CTS as a negitive, maybe be great but thru my eyes not for me.
 
I remember when KTM came out with the RFS motor they said "For competition only, the motor won't last." Then they found out they had a bunch of guys putting oodles of miles on them even on the road. Don't count the X-Lite out until we start seeing what guys can get out of them, especially in the 310 where they are not redlined all the time, though by design it can take being bounced off the rev. limiter consistantly. About the time we belive it's solid there will be a design change and everyone is back to being nervous again...:banghead:
 
Yes the charcoal canister was in the CW pic of the Husky, and they tested in the desert so of course they wanted more gear spacing. If I was racing in the desert I would not choose a "middleweight" bike. The husky comes with the extra parts for a reason, you can make it fit your needs, or you can screw it up. Most magazines come from Cali and tests are done in the desert, has no bearing on how the bike will do where I ride but can find some good info here and there.
 
I ride in tight rocky rooty muddy New England woods and I want a wider gear spacing! To me not having a wide ratio gear box is the biggest down fall of the whole package!
 
I agree even a taller 6th would be nice, just for connecting woods sections. Right now though if I'm not in the perfect gear it's okay because up or down one isn't that big of a difference.
 
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