• 4 Stroke Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Italy - About 1989 to 2014
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SUSPENSION SET UP?

rowdy125

Husqvarna
AA Class
Hey ALL,
I have a 2010 TE510 and am having a hard time adjusting to the beast. I have no confidence in the front end (still in factory settings). Is this a common thing when owning a husky?? Is there some basic suspension tuning to ease my problems?? My riding weight is approx 80kg
Can anyone shine a light on this?? Please help
 
Hey ALL,
I have a 2010 TE510 and am having a hard time adjusting to the beast. I have no confidence in the front end (still in factory settings). Is this a common thing when owning a husky?? Is there some basic suspension tuning to ease my problems?? My riding weight is approx 80kg
Can anyone shine a light on this?? Please help

I would love some setup tips as well. I have a 2011 TE310 and LOVE it!! However about my 5th ride out my front end started washing out on my everywhere! I have Karoo tires (dual sport) and they are terrible. Do you still have stock dual sports or good tires? I put Geomax MX51's on front and rear (100% non dot offroad) and cant wait to ride. I will tomorrow and sunday and report back.

I weigh 180lbs which is the same as you. I have left everything stock, besides basic placement of lever angles and handlebar position, to let everything break in, but am going to adjust rear sag tomorrow to 3.5 to 4 inches. I'm hoping this along with real tires will make a HUGE difference.

Suspension seems great on straights and whoops and jumps. Front end is washing out on me everywhere in corners and soft sand is a white knuckle ride..LOL. Let me know if you find any cures or answers. I will do the same.
 
+1 Ditch the Karoos if you have them, and check the rear sag. If there's too much rear sag the front end will feel vague which you might be able to dial out with preload, but at 175-180 pounds (80kg) you might be at the upper limit for the stock spring weights.

IMO money spent on a thorough tuning by a suspension expert, including springs and valving if necessary, is always money well spent.
 
Thanks for quick response, HuskyQ i have done the power up kit and have decent tyres front and rear (Ditched the stds as they were pretty ordinary) other than that its stock. I thought that it was just mine that was vague through the front- apparently not.
 
Thanks for quick response, HuskyQ i have done the power up kit and have decent tyres front and rear (Ditched the stds as they were pretty ordinary) other than that its stock. I thought that it was just mine that was vague through the front- apparently not.

I'm gonna set rear sag up correct tomorrow. That plus the new tires I'm hoping will make a big difference. I'm pushing through corners unless I'm in a rut or berm. Makes me think I have to much rear suspension preload. If I lighten it up and sag the rear end I'm hoping to corner better without washing out front end. I will get back to you with my results after the weekend.
 
I would love some setup tips as well. I have a 2011 TE310 and LOVE it!! However about my 5th ride out my front end started washing out on my everywhere! I have Karoo tires (dual sport) and they are terrible. Do you still have stock dual sports or good tires? I put Geomax MX51's on front and rear (100% non dot offroad) and cant wait to ride. I will tomorrow and sunday and report back.

I weigh 180lbs which is the same as you. I have left everything stock, besides basic placement of lever angles and handlebar position, to let everything break in, but am going to adjust rear sag tomorrow to 3.5 to 4 inches. I'm hoping this along with real tires will make a HUGE difference.

Suspension seems great on straights and whoops and jumps. Front end is washing out on me everywhere in corners and soft sand is a white knuckle ride..LOL. Let me know if you find any cures or answers. I will do the same.

I have the same bike and weigh 103kg with all gear on (226), I needed a 5.6 rear spring to get the sag right, and there was a previous post about the wrong (heavy) oil in the forks from the factory. I changed mine and put in 5wt (with stock springs and now the front is 200% better than it was before.)
BTW I have Bridgestones on the bike-apparently Karoos are crap (we got michelin enduro comps as std. in OZ)
 
Check out Dwight's "Suspension Setup Recomendations"
Having the correct springs/preload, oil height, clicker settings makes a big difference. SOme people need revalve depending on appropriate springs needed and preferances for sure.
Also play with fork height- I have mine adjusted to about the 3rd line.
Tires, obviously, if you are pushing corners and have 80/20 DOT and ride aggressively in off road conditions...- I am happy with Michelin S12s- some like them some don't- but I figure they've done pretty well for me and changing tire types and brands everytime leads to inconsistancy in me predicting my bike's performance. IE "will it stick?****************************************"
 
Hey guys,
Husky Q, how did you go? Did it make much difference?? I rang the local suspension guru, and his response was "arghh, thats a common problem. They sit way to low in the rear, which causes the front to do some odd things! We cant fix it, but we can make it heaps better!!??
 
Hey guys,
Husky Q, how did you go? Did it make much difference?? I rang the local suspension guru, and his response was "arghh, thats a common problem. They sit way to low in the rear, which causes the front to do some odd things! We cant fix it, but we can make it heaps better!!??

LOL...was better. However, didn't get a real ride in. Cold and wet. Was soaked, muddy and cold in 10 mins. Then had a street ride home for 8 miles. Thought my boys were gonna fall off. I'm riding this Sunday and a much longer ride and its going to be dry and 60. I'll post Sunday, but for the short time I did ride the tires did make a big difference in the trails...especially the real rocky and rutty section.
 
I aint no expert, had some front end issues with a '10TE450 and went with this.
1. Lift forks up in clamps
2. 3-5 more clicks out on front compression
3. Handle bars in the forward position
4. Rear sag 30mm
5. Rider sag 100mm
6. Then spent money on Brigestone 403 and 404
7. Have the balls to sit forward and load up the front with weight when cornering
 
I aint no expert, had some front end issues with a '10TE450 and went with this.
1. Lift forks up in clamps
2. 3-5 more clicks out on front compression
3. Handle bars in the forward position
4. Rear sag 30mm
5. Rider sag 100mm
6. Then spent money on Brigestone 403 and 404
7. Have the balls to sit forward and load up the front with weight when cornering

I've been loading the front end of Huskys in turns since 1974 (see pic below) but the front end of my 2010 TE450 sucks big time, mostly on rocky downhills, where the front wheel just doesn't absorb and recover fast enough to maintain control. All of my wrecks have been on rocky, rough downhills..

My forks have been at full tall and at 3 lines down, my rear sag is correct and the rear susp is awesome, I have taken all the rebound off the forks, taken all the compression out, added back some compression, then added back all compression, but the front end is still harsh, and not plush like other bikes I have sat on, mine is very "stiction-y", doesn't want to rebound easily. I have replaced the fluid with ATF and that helped a tiny bit. Today or tomorrow, I will be replacing that ATF with Mobil1 0w20 sythnetic motor oil and I will report back.

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Jake you probably checked this already but the Husky front end is also very sensitive to front axle alignment. I was having some pretty bad stiction issues until I followed the "George Protocol" for aligning the front end. Link here: http://www.cafehusky.com/threads/aligning-front-end.12865/

Hey man, good to see ya here on CH. Do you think your forks feel better on rocky downhills since you had them worked on?

I don't see how differing lengths of tube would cause stiction, my axle always goes in smoothly with no stoppage or mis-alignmeny.

Every time I change out a tire or work on the front end, I always get everything put back on and then get the bike off the stand and, with the axle and one side pinch tight, I pump the forks, to allow the floating spacer side to "find it's home", then I tighten that side.
 
I've been loading the front end of Huskys in turns since 1974 (see pic below) but the front end of my 2010 TE450 sucks big time, mostly on rocky downhills, where the front wheel just doesn't absorb and recover fast enough to maintain control. All of my wrecks have been on rocky, rough downhills..

My forks have been at full tall and at 3 lines down, my rear sag is correct and the rear susp is awesome, I have taken all the rebound off the forks, taken all the compression out, added back some compression, then added back all compression, but the front end is still harsh, and not plush like other bikes I have sat on, mine is very "stiction-y", doesn't want to rebound easily. I have replaced the fluid with ATF and that helped a tiny bit. Today or tomorrow, I will be replacing that ATF with Mobil1 0w20 sythnetic motor oil and I will report back.

Have you checked the static and race sag of your fork springs-
If you have your clickers set to zero or near zero compression and rebound- you should either get it revalved- or at least try a thinner fork oil to decrease dampening.Why not try a lighter 5 wt or even 2.5 wt "fork oil"- ATF is like a 7.5wt isn't it? I bet that 0/20wt motor oil is way thicker than you intend- it won't be like a "zero weight" (least that's my gut feeling). Verify you are turing your ckickers the right way too. If you have that much stiction- (assuming your alignmemt is correct) you may want to inspect your seals/bushings and tube's for dents and dings- you might have other issues. I have the 50 marzocci forks and love mine- I have freinds with the 48 KYBs on their 2010s and they don't have complaints like yours- maybe something is screwy in yours- have a PRO check them out...
 
This might be of use......Assuming the forks are sprung and are installed correctly. I always use a silicone spray on my forks for lubrication of the stanion (chromed lower part). Binding forks can be caused by the bushs being worn or damaged. If the forks are not responding to alteration to the clicker i'd strip and clean them ,there just might be some dirt blocking to the flow of oil....best of luck
 
Hey mate.

I have held off replying immediately as I am no "expert" so jut wanted to wait and see what other said. With that, and a fair amount of thought, here are my observations and recommendations...

If you look at my thread here (http://www.cafehusky.com/threads/got-my-suspension-revalved-and-tuned-this-weekend.19623/) you will see what I had done to my bikes suspension on my 2010 TE450. When I first got the bike I found the front end very harsh and it deflected a lot. Even with compression and rebound damping dialed all the way out there was what felt like a compression spike mid way through the stroke.

Anyway, I took the bike to a professional tuner who not only did the valve/shim changes but also did a rider-to-bike setup session. That session is where the true value of the professional tuner comes into play in my opinion! Summary of what I had done:
With the forks, all I can remember about the shim changes is that he removed 3 of the largest shims from each forks rebound stacks (think they were mid-valves, but may have been base) and he swapped some shims with those that came with the gold valve kit.

Apart from those changes I got the right springs for my weight. Now, with your "stick-tion" issue where you feel the forks stick a little before they start moving, this is a common issue with most forks, but obviously it is worse on some bikes than others. There is actually something called a "stiction zone" of 2-5mm on the rear shock, and 10-25mm on the forks (well, that's the ideal size of it according to Racetech). You determine this zone by measuring the difference in height when you push down on the seat and let it return and it's a different height than if you pull up on the seat and let it return. When they initially put new springs in my forks they went with springs that were 8mm longer than the stock ones to effectively give about 12mm of preload. Man, I am sure that made the sticktion worse as the initial bit of the stroke felt horribly harsh. The tuner took the bike back and put shorter springs in and on his return even he said he could feel a difference. So if the initial stick on the travel is that big an issue to you then look into your fork spring pre-load would be my first recommendation.

With your idea of changing oil weights, from what I can remember with the conversations I had with the tuner, the suspension is pretty much designed around working with 5wt oil. Changing the weight affects the ENTIRE travel of the suspension because the shim stack is static and the viscosity of the oil changes the behaviour of the fork fluid flow over/around the shim stack. I am pretty sure you'll not find many true suspension tuners that use different weight oils - I believe changing the shim stacks is the preferred method for altering the behaviour.

On the rest of the bike setup, fork oil height should be 130mm from top of tube with spring out and fork collapsed. Top of forks sit flush with the top of the triple clamp (has an effect on the bikes rake I think, but meant to make the front end more stable). Once the fork heights are set then set your static (suspension just sagging under bikes weight) and race sag appropriately.

Good on you if you're going to try set the bike up properly yourself - you are braver than I am - but if you really are limited on time/knowledge/inclination to learn then I would recommend taking your bike to a tuner and get them to help you setting your bike up. Sending your suspension off to a tuner will get you half way there, but the true value is in the tuner helping you set yourself up to your bike.
 
Well said! I couldn't agree more. Their is SOOOO much involved in suspension set up. Always record your changes so you can go back if need be.
 
I aint no expert, had some front end issues with a '10TE450 and went with this.
1. Lift forks up in clamps
2. 3-5 more clicks out on front compression
3. Handle bars in the forward position
4. Rear sag 30mm
5. Rider sag 100mm
6. Then spent money on Brigestone 403 and 404
7. Have the balls to sit forward and load up the front with weight when cornering

RIDE REPORT

Spent all day on my 2011 TE310 yesterday and wanted to report back to the folks following this thread. I will just start by saying I had so much fun yesterday I didn't want to stop. Forearm pump was so bad I couldn't hold on anymore and it was dark...that's why I stopped.

The 7 tips above that I quoted from Kreza was exactly what I did to start, except I put on geomax mx51 tires front and rear. I also talked to Les Tinius and LT Racing (A SPONSOR HERE) and told him my tales of woe, my riding style and terrain, where I was having issues and my weight (180lbs). He was very helpful in some basic compression and rebound adjustments on front end and was very quick to reply. I ended up slowing down the rebound stroke so as not to throw me in a different direction. Thanks Les!

I was VERY happy with all changes and adjustments. Moving bars forward forced me to sit more forward and maybe load up front a little more. I was also more comfortable standing. The compression and rebound changes for front (LT RACING) helped me keep control of the beast in sharp hits with ruts and rocks which before were sending me in another direction completely. The correct rear sag combined with front set up AND new tires were magical for my corners on flat ground, small berm or well used line. Rode tight technical pine needle filled soft ground, to dirt rutty rocky sections, to a fireroad, soft sand and an old track. It was a different bike...especially on the rocky, rutted uphills where line and momentum are crucial to getting to the top.

If anyone has questions I'm happy to TRY and help, but I got most of my help from you guys and Les at LT Racing. The Geomax MX51's....2 rides in. I LOVE THEM.
 
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