• Hi everyone,

    As you all know, Coffee (Dean) passed away a couple of years ago. I am Dean's ex-wife's husband and happen to have spent my career in tech. Over the years, I occasionally helped Dean with various tech issues.

    When he passed, I worked with his kids to gather the necessary credentials to keep this site running. Since then (and for however long they worked with Coffee), Woodschick and Dirtdame have been maintaining the site and covering the costs. Without their hard work and financial support, CafeHusky would have been lost.

    Over the past couple of weeks, I’ve been working to migrate the site to a free cloud compute instance so that Woodschick and Dirtdame no longer have to fund it. At the same time, I’ve updated the site to a current version of XenForo (the discussion software it runs on). The previous version was outdated and no longer supported.

    Unfortunately, the new software version doesn’t support importing the old site’s styles, so for now, you’ll see the XenForo default style. This may change over time.

    Coffee didn’t document the work he did on the site, so I’ve been digging through the old setup to understand how everything was running. There may still be things I’ve missed. One known issue is that email functionality is not yet working on the new site, but I hope to resolve this over time.

    Thanks for your patience and support!

SMOG on ALL OHV! - a done deal!

J

JeffV

Husqvarna
A Class
Referring link: http://www.ama-d36.org/moto/

Hi guys,
Just thought I'd impart some absolutely ridiculous news....On July 26, CARB passed a new law...SMOG ON ALL OHV in California starting 2017. I just read through the new law and the scariest part is the following:


(8) Any tampering, removal or modifications of the evaporative emissions control system is prohibited under part 1068.101(b)(1), Title 40, Code of Federal Regulations.
(A) Peace officers are given the authority to enforce illegal vehicle tampering by section 27156 of the California Vehicle Code.
(B) Section 27156 of the California Vehicle Code prohibits the installation of any add-on or modified emission-related part on any pollution-controlled OHRV, unless the part has been exempted by ARB. ARB exempts an OHRV part from the prohibition of VC 27156 if the part is found to do either of the following: 1) not reduce the effectiveness of any required emission control device on the OHRV or 2) demonstrate that the applicable emission standards are being met when the part(s) are installed on the OHRV. Sale or installation of any aftermarket part or parts, which could potentially affect the evaporative system, in California without an ARB approved Anti-Tampering Exemption is prohibited as stated in Cal. Code Regs., tit.13, § 2470 – 2476.

So I does that means any Dualsport or Dual Purpose bikes will have to re-install any of the equipment that may have broken or fallen off over the years??????
 
My question is who will qualify these " Peace Officers" on what's stock and what isn't ? This law seems way to open ended to me. Is it me or does it seem like it's open season on people who enjoy the outdoors on OHV ? WTF gives here ?
 
CARB is California Air Resource Board, so this will only effect California. CARB sucks! I remember they had the '09 Husky's pulled from sale in CA for a short time, due to paperwork or some BS. That is why we bought our '08 TE's in '09 as no CA dealers had the '09's for sale. :censored: Still love our '08's just fine though. :awww:

CA is a pita ass to us dirt bike riders, in more ways then one. :banghead:
 
organ donor said:
Peace officers are given the authority to enforce illegal vehicle tampering
Suppose they mean the opposite!
This would make this law inoperable here ... until they learn some grammar.
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LOL! good catch. What a bunch of :censored: idiots. And they are in charge!?? :eek:
 
The way california is going there wont be anyone employed to enforced all these bs laws soon. Of course thats assuming anyones left in the state other than the super poor and siper rich.
 
firecrotch said:
The way california is going there wont be anyone employed to enforced all these bs laws soon. Of course thats assuming anyones left in the state other than the super poor and siper rich.
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I see you forgot to include "the check collectors". You know, those people that are perfectly healthy and able to work, but "say" they cant work so the rest of us and our tax dollars support them. :censored:
 
JeffV said:
So I does that means any Dualsport or Dual Purpose bikes will have to re-install any of the equipment that may have broken or fallen off over the years??????
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Dual sport (street registered) vehicles are already under CARB jurisdiction, correct? So they already are subject to all of these rules, I think.

It was only a matter of time before this happened. I think the bigger question is going to be, what are the CARB emissions control requirements for OHVs going to be? I would be less worried about having to buy a CARB-certified exhaust, than I would be about a new offroad bike needing a charcoal canister, a catcon, and no tank vent.

The way these things usually go is they start in CA, and then end up effecting all of us, especially with low-production-volume Euro bikes, because the companies don't want to build a 49-state model and a CA-model.
 
Kyle Tarry said:
Dual sport (street registered) vehicles are already under CARB jurisdiction, correct? So they already are subject to all of these rules, I think.

It was only a matter of time before this happened. I think the bigger question is going to be, what are the CARB emissions control requirements for OHVs going to be? I would be less worried about having to buy a CARB-certified exhaust, than I would be about a new offroad bike needing a charcoal canister, a catcon, and no tank vent.

The way these things usually go is they start in CA, and then end up effecting all of us, especially with low-production-volume Euro bikes, because the companies don't want to build a 49-state model and a CA-model.
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I can answer your bigger question: requirements are what you mention in your post except for the CAT. They must have charcoal, tank vent controls, special fuel lines and special non-permiable plastic fuel tanks. (oh but I'm sure the CAT is soon to come)

I totally agree, look at the industry now...As I understand it KTMs, Husky's and Beta's don't build 49 state Dual-Sport bikes, only 50 state bikes. Yamaha and its WRR is built as both 49 and CA only trim. But outside of Calif, when your stuff breaks and falls off, you wont have a law enforcement officer there to site you or impound your bike.
 
Jhunter said:
Another good reason not to live in California...
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I was gonna say this on another thread, but I'll say it here ... Our entire globe of humanity uses bikes to a very high degree for living each day, successfully ... Contrast that to CA that wants to more or less stop them in their perceived area ... They are wrong by default in this case and the number of world wide bike owners prove that... People can get so washed up in propaganda that is spouted daily, its just hard for the average person not to get rolled over ... Then bring in $ on the wrong side and you get what we have now with dirt biking ...

Good luck on enforcing this new stuff ... Cops are gonna have to be mechanics now it appears ...
 
JeffV said:
Oh and I see your from "The Springs"! Your state is next with all the liberal CA transplants there. They give us right thinking Californians a bad name.
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They sure do lol

I'm really not even kidding, I wrap up my bachelors in a year and have kicked around the idea of law school. With how little I make there should even be grants I could get lol.
 
Europe (the EU) already has these restrictions. When they came out, several manufacturers of high performance bikes sold "restricted" models that came with "p/u" kits. Some dealers sold their bikes with the p/u kits already installed and the bikes were advertised with their "unrestricted" performance. The Husky 630 was one example. The bike was hardly viable without the kit. So now they´re attempting to stop this "loophole". As far as I can make out, the only escape route is to purchase and register a bike a.s.a.p., as prior registration guarantees the permanent right to own and run a bike that isn´t restricted to the performance of a zimmer frame. So we might just have to hold on to what we´ve got.
 
The other "escape route" is to vote in politicians that believe in personal liberty, that is if our votes are even counted anymore. Their BS laws are the reason I haven't been to Cali in twenty years, even though I have family there.
 
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