• Hi everyone,

    As you all know, Coffee (Dean) passed away a couple of years ago. I am Dean's ex-wife's husband and happen to have spent my career in tech. Over the years, I occasionally helped Dean with various tech issues.

    When he passed, I worked with his kids to gather the necessary credentials to keep this site running. Since then (and for however long they worked with Coffee), Woodschick and Dirtdame have been maintaining the site and covering the costs. Without their hard work and financial support, CafeHusky would have been lost.

    Over the past couple of weeks, I’ve been working to migrate the site to a free cloud compute instance so that Woodschick and Dirtdame no longer have to fund it. At the same time, I’ve updated the site to a current version of XenForo (the discussion software it runs on). The previous version was outdated and no longer supported.

    Unfortunately, the new software version doesn’t support importing the old site’s styles, so for now, you’ll see the XenForo default style. This may change over time.

    Coffee didn’t document the work he did on the site, so I’ve been digging through the old setup to understand how everything was running. There may still be things I’ve missed. One known issue is that email functionality is not yet working on the new site, but I hope to resolve this over time.

    Thanks for your patience and support!

SHERCO 2014 new 450

Te250Gary said:
Everyone gets hell bent on kickers for some reason. I have been riding for 2 years without kickers and I can't say I miss them one bit. Worst case scenario, bump start it.
If you are 40 miles from somewhere, you should be riding with a buddy. I think there are way more bad things that could happen then a dead battery.

But to each his own, thats why we have so many different beautiful bikes to oogle
Click to expand...
i used to think that too. until my trusty 525 had a fan that started malfunctioning and kept on a tad longer than it should have which unbeknownst to me was draining the battery. On one particular ride the battery died because of it. I would love to think we no longer need a kicker but am not convinced
 
I'm with firecrotch...is it really that hard to leave the kickstarter gears/lever on a dirtbike....it's not like kickstarters are a new innovation:rolleyes:
 
Arctra said:
This might interest you... when you take the seat off the 2-stroke Sherco you'll notice the imprints on the tank for where a fuel pump assembly goes. If I were a betting man I would think there's a reason for that. Sure, it could just be that Sherco are trying to do as much common parts for their whole range that it just happens the 2T tank has that moulding... but it could also be that DI is close. If I remember correctly, Sherco were one of the early adopters of EFI for their 4T bikes, so it's not that much of a stretch to think they may do something similar with their 2T bikes. That being said, the French guy I was speaking to from the Sherco factory told me that DI is not a simple thing to do. There are hundreds of variables they need to try and fctor into fuel maps and get them right, so it will take a while to get it right, and they'll only launch it once they've got it right.

That being said, the 2T bike they had on the stand was pretty sweet. And with the trouble I've had with my Husky's EFI & electrics lately makes me wonder whether it is really worth taking the risk moving away from the carb system they have working so well on current 2T bikes.
Click to expand...

I believe Honda already has a Direct Injection 2-stroke, they simply haven't released it yet. I've heard this from a few good sources.
 
Connor said:
I believe Honda already has a Direct Injection 2-stroke, they simply haven't released it yet. I've heard this from a few good sources.
Click to expand...


Honda had a patented DS bike called a CRM250AR 20 years ago that was a street legal EFI 250 2 stroke. I saw on in person, cool bike. I believe this ran without a spark plug like a diesel. Don't think it is a real DFI bike but they were working on this long ago.

http://www.crm250.com/history.asp

crm250ar_1996.jpg
 
Motosportz said:
Honda had a patented DS bike called a CRM250AR 20 years ago that was a street legal EFI 250 2 stroke. I saw on in person, cool bike. I believe this ran without a spark plug like a diesel. Don't think it is a real DFI bike but they were working on this long ago.

http://www.crm250.com/history.asp
Click to expand...

Connor said:
I believe Honda already has a Direct Injection 2-stroke, they simply haven't released it yet. I've heard this from a few good sources.
Click to expand...

I'm not surprised that Honda probably had this decades ago ... Go back and read about the 20K rpm 4t bikes they had in the 90s that they wanted to battle the 2t bikes with ...

Most people have a hard time understanding the resources and mula these companies have at their disposal and no end in sight to that cash train...
 
ray_ray said:
I'm not surprised that Honda probably had this decades ago ... Go back and read about the 20K rpm 4t bikes they had in the 90s that they wanted to battle the 2t bikes with ...

Most people have a hard time understanding the resources and mula these companies have at their disposal and no end in sight to that cash train...
Click to expand...


Yep. Honda built an uber expensive oval piston 8 valve per cylinder race bike too. Good times :thumbsup:

Ovalpiston.jpg



WAY off topic, sorry. :busted:
 

YEP KELLY AND I HIJACKED IT GOOD NOW BACK TO SHERCO JUST UTUBED THE KNIGHTER AND HIS SHERCO SOUNDS LIKE HE'S DIGGIN THE SE 300I AND LOOKS TO BE FLAT HAULIN THE MAIL ON IT:thumbsup:
 
Knight was at the Flexx Bars Ride and Slide today and he looked good on the Sherco. Then again, Brown looked good on his KTM, Graffunder was cutting a swath on his Husky, and Destry Abbott was holding a clinic with his Kawasaki ... What works for David Knight may not work for you - get out there and ride the bikes you've got on your prospective 'to buy' list, and then decide.
 
If you are on a longish ride from the truck, chances are you are not alone and that your buddy/-ies also have an e-start bike with a battery. So, if you have a set of motorcycle jumper cables in the group you can jump start it just like with a car. Also good to have in the bumbag is a cheap and small multimeter for basic fault-findig.
 
that honda with the controlled combustion process. the ar had another name here in the states, was never sold here as i remember. they brought several over to run in Baja, there is one at the honda museum in Torrance.
 
Radbuster said:
If you are on a longish ride from the truck, chances are you are not alone and that your buddy/-ies also have an e-start bike with a battery. So, if you have a set of motorcycle jumper cables in the group you can jump start it just like with a car. Also good to have in the bumbag is a cheap and small multimeter for basic fault-findig.
Click to expand...
So I can carry extra stuff on me and make sure I have a riding buddy, all to make up for a simple kick starter?
Airplanes have all kinds of redundant features, should we get rid of those just because we hardly use them?
 
Or just buy a different bike. Some care about a back up kicker some don't; we have options. I'm getting a new Sherco so I it's not stopping me from getting one. Do I wish it had a back up kicker....maybe.
 
I am not buying a Sherco in the near future but the lack of kickstarter is a non-issue for me. Chances are that if the 200amp alternator and YTZ7S battery goes dead trying to start the bike it isnt going to start no matter how much you kick it.
 
hammer said:
So I can carry extra stuff on me and make sure I have a riding buddy, all to make up for a simple kick starter?
Airplanes have all kinds of redundant features, should we get rid of those just because we hardly use them?
Click to expand...


If your bat is dead on a modern EFI bike your not going anywhere anyway so all you have to worry about is the starter itself failing and they usually warn you before they go.
 
Motosportz said:
If your bat is dead on a modern EFI bike your not going anywhere anyway so all you have to worry about is the starter itself failing and they usually warn you before they go.
Click to expand...

As a tech for 30 years I have to disagree with you on the "usually warn you" part.
I wanted a Sherco 2 stroke but the lack of kick starter pushed me to Beta. Beta has also proved that so far they can pass the test with a carb on their 4 strokes which also has a kick starter. Mx has battery less FI and I can't see it being a problem to design a EFI system to start on a kicker for back up.
I MHO taking a simple reliable thing like a dirt bike and making it complicated has created more problems than solutions.
Forums are full of people complaining about FI issues.
 
Motosportz said:
If your bat is dead on a modern EFI bike your not going anywhere anyway...
Click to expand...
This topic was covered on the Dirt Bike World forums in Australia and in the case of the Sherco it is NOT true. Guys with Sherco's have reported totally dead batteries ans the bike has fired up after just 2 kicks. Granted, there may be some EFI designs that will not work if the battery is dead as they probably don't have a capacitor to store sufficient charge to fire the bike up after 1 kick, but now days I believe that is more the exception than the norm.
 
Arctra said:
This topic was covered on the Dirt Bike World forums in Australia and in the case of the Sherco it is NOT true. Guys with Sherco's have reported totally dead batteries ans the bike has fired up after just 2 kicks. Granted, there may be some EFI designs that will not work if the battery is dead as they probably don't have a capacitor to store sufficient charge to fire the bike up after 1 kick, but now days I believe that is more the exception than the norm.
Click to expand...

There are several posts in the 610 forums about installing a $6 Radio Shack sourced capacitor that allows the 610 to run strickly off the Stator juice if the battery craps out....One poster video demos with No battery.
I installed one on my EFI 08 next to the 2lb Moty Design battery..........so far, so good.........solo.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top