I have a feeling once you get the metering rod close you never touch it again.
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Round two of the "other" carb types - Lectron
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I have a feeling once you get the metering rod close you never touch it again.
Xcuvator
Husqvarna
Pro Class
I'm thinking the same thing, it's just that I have a real reluctance to open up a carb in dirty conditions. I have done it many times, just don't like it. That and call me lazy but I think I would be more likely to do more final small tweaks to find the absolute sweet spot. The question is-is it worth the extra money and wait,,,
huskybear
Husqvarna
Pro Class
I have decided to get a lectron instead of the apt. The price,availability,clear fuel bowl and adjustable power jet have convinced me. Kelly's ride report definately was a factor as well! I tried to contact them by e-mail and phone but they are shut down until Jan. 3rd for re-tooling and the holidays. will post pics and a ride report as it happens
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Long_Stroke
Husqvarna
AA Class
I am about to go Lecton-ic, too. Seems like somebody with a 300 should dive in and since I'm a year into my 2011 and haven't done anything to my engine yet, its time.
I'm a Utah trail rider, don't race, don't try to be fastest in the group, and love technical trails. The TMXX is jetted as good as I can get it and is fine. I get a ton of spooge at 50:1 and have to crack the throttle to start when warm. Thought about the RB Designs mods but now think the Lectron is the better option. I almost bought the FMF Gnarly but now I'd rather put the money toward the other end of the cylinder for similar gains and then some. I'll end up with a Gnarly pipe soon enough.
Don't care for the venting spaghetti hanging down behind the engine, either.
I'm a Utah trail rider, don't race, don't try to be fastest in the group, and love technical trails. The TMXX is jetted as good as I can get it and is fine. I get a ton of spooge at 50:1 and have to crack the throttle to start when warm. Thought about the RB Designs mods but now think the Lectron is the better option. I almost bought the FMF Gnarly but now I'd rather put the money toward the other end of the cylinder for similar gains and then some. I'll end up with a Gnarly pipe soon enough.
Don't care for the venting spaghetti hanging down behind the engine, either.
R-J van Hulst
Husqvarna
Pro Class
OK before the comparison testing of all this I would favor the lectron slightly above all (don't know what it was but I can say it was my gut feeling (that happen to be accurate in a lot of other situations)
The testing is done between the major players in the test (sorry but I think the metering rod carburetors are a league of there own) and it only reinforce the feeling i have on the lectron.
Not that i think that the APT is bad but the electron is in my opinion just a better package allround (including the coin side of it ) personally i don't mind to adjust the carb a bit to get it perfect and after that never have to touch again (hence I bugger around with a mikuni for years now so it can only be better in that respect)
the clear float bowl is definitely a point in the bling factor.
the adjustable power jet is nice and for sure handy in some situations.
also the fact that they are on the block for some time means this is not a lucky try made in the backyard shed (I don't think the APT is either in this respect)
For sure they can use help with marketing their products as the exposure is pretty poor in the target group that would buy these carbs.
It might be as simple as supplying a few stickers with the product that for sure will find there way on a few bikes.
also advertize on forums like this (would not know what the cost impact would be though)
I would be very interesting with a group buy yet the tricky part in that is getting the right carb set up for your situation. (which add again to the service they bring to the table of dialing the carb in the 85% perfect range)
personally I am in the tropics and need for sure a different base setting then the guys in north America.
I am a bit supriced why they don't have an European and Asian outlets as i do think that the carb (smaller types) has big potential there.
better cleaner burning of the fuel which increase power and mileage on the bikes is in my opinion not a hard thing to sell
worse case scenario: you save money and have better performance Nuff said.
my thing is now how to get one here (my specific situation is slightly more complicated but we working on it )
Robert-Jan
The testing is done between the major players in the test (sorry but I think the metering rod carburetors are a league of there own) and it only reinforce the feeling i have on the lectron.
Not that i think that the APT is bad but the electron is in my opinion just a better package allround (including the coin side of it ) personally i don't mind to adjust the carb a bit to get it perfect and after that never have to touch again (hence I bugger around with a mikuni for years now so it can only be better in that respect)
the clear float bowl is definitely a point in the bling factor.
the adjustable power jet is nice and for sure handy in some situations.
also the fact that they are on the block for some time means this is not a lucky try made in the backyard shed (I don't think the APT is either in this respect)
For sure they can use help with marketing their products as the exposure is pretty poor in the target group that would buy these carbs.
It might be as simple as supplying a few stickers with the product that for sure will find there way on a few bikes.
also advertize on forums like this (would not know what the cost impact would be though)
I would be very interesting with a group buy yet the tricky part in that is getting the right carb set up for your situation. (which add again to the service they bring to the table of dialing the carb in the 85% perfect range)
personally I am in the tropics and need for sure a different base setting then the guys in north America.
I am a bit supriced why they don't have an European and Asian outlets as i do think that the carb (smaller types) has big potential there.
better cleaner burning of the fuel which increase power and mileage on the bikes is in my opinion not a hard thing to sell
worse case scenario: you save money and have better performance Nuff said.
my thing is now how to get one here (my specific situation is slightly more complicated but we working on it )
Robert-Jan
CelticDude
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I think I'm going with the 38mm Lectron. I ride mainly wide open anyhow! 
huskybear
Husqvarna
Pro Class
I will go with the 36,I mostly ride tight single-track. I am pretty sure the 36mm lectron will flow as much as a stock 38mm mikuni,especially with the adjustable power jet option.I think I'm going with the 38mm Lectron. I ride mainly wide open anyhow!
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huskybear
Husqvarna
Pro Class
I e-mailed lectron's sales dept. saturday and their tech dept. today and tried phoning today as well. They are closed apparently for a while. Hope to get a response soon
Long_Stroke
Husqvarna
AA Class
Can you share any of the basic info Lectron offered? Size of carb for 250/300 for type of riding? Power jet usefulness for us slow trail riders?
Vinduro
Husqvarna
Pro Class
Remember that a Lectron flows more than a normal carb. A 38mm Lectron flows like a 40mm Mikuni or Keihin. So a 36mm will flow like the stock 38mm TMXx. I have always tended to under size my carbs of this type. I ran a 30mm Edelbrock Quicksilver on my 315cc modified Honda XR250R and a 32X34mm on my XR441R. I ran a 30mm Lectron on my 125 Hercules in place of the stock 32mm Bing and I ran a 32mm Lectron in place of the stock Mikuni 34mm on my factory Yamaha IT175. The smaller carb also gives a stronger signal at the needle for better throttle response and power.
Not sure that would work all that well as they set them up per customer needs. Maybe we can show enough interest to have them do a CH deal or something. Not sure there is a ton of markup on a $300 carb so keep that in mind while trying to beat someone up on price as well.
454x
Husqvarna
Pro Class
36mm seems to be the ticket, the power jet will always be usefull especialy in the sand snow mud hill climbs any where the revs are high the powerjet will be working.The Lectron will also handle elevation changes as well as tempeture also gives you more torque horse power and better mileage and,comes set up for your application. Alot of value there for only 299.00.
454x
Husqvarna
Pro Class
Why did you veer away from using Lectrons? Where they good back then too?
Alex_9
Husqvarna
A Class
If he would put up videos on how to set it up, I'm sure we would be able to do it ourselves, it can't be harder than jetting a TMXx
I agree with you on the price, its a lot cheaper than the SmartCarb.
If he would put up videos on how to set it up, I'm sure we would be able to do it ourselves, it can't be harder than jetting a TMXx
Technical videos from Kevin at Lectron:
http://www.lectronfuelsystems.com/tech_videos.html
If he would put up videos on how to set it up, I'm sure we would be able to do it ourselves, it can't be harder than jetting a TMXx
I think it is more about shipping them with the right metering rod for your needs / range.
R-J van Hulst
Husqvarna
Pro Class
I agree with you that this is the risk factor I would think that a CH deal is not that much in a cheaper price for the Carb but to have a discount on some accessories when buying one.
its a nice way for them to still get the profit on the carb and if somebody wants a few bits more they get the more volume without that they have to suffer to much on their margin yet the buyer has a discount for the small bits and bobs he might order (every body wins).
Robert-Jan