Rotoplax On Te?

[towpro]

anybody ever mounted a rotoplax gas can on a TE?
Planning on doing some riding this summer where the 1.9 gallon might not make it to the gas stop.
This is just trail riding, not racing. Anybody got any ideas on where to mount it?

 

[MontyCarlo]

If you get the additional subframe part that the TE610's have, you will have some meat to mount the Rotopax carrier to, or to mount up a good size rack like the ProMoto Billet rack and carry it on the back without issues.

The part number is 8A00A5377, costs about $45 and will bolt straight up to the TE250 subframe.

 

[towpro]

Mine already has some kind of Sub frame under the rear fender. There is an aluminum brace on each side that runs rearward from the bike frame. It supports the rear fender and this rear tag holder with LED light that goes under the rear fender. Original owner said it came in a box with the bike when he bought it new. Could this be the subframe you talk about?

 

[MontyCarlo]

It's part number 16 in the diagram below. Note the brace that goes across the width of the fender.

 

[towpro]

Took it apart last night, I already have 16. It is used to mount an aftermarket rear tag/light assemble (60) that the past owner said came with the uprate kit.

Mine 16 was broken on the side at the center bolt hole (I think last owner did an endo).
I added a piece of aluminum plate to the inside, drilled and taped 4 holes into the original bracket, run screws through the new plate into the original bracket, cut them off flush and used lock tight on them. I think that will be a fix.

Mine (16) is attached to the factory subframe by the four forward horizontal holes.
The vertical holes are bolted to the aftermarket taillight sub fender (16).
Then the two rear horizontal holes are used to bolt to sub fender (16) and they also hold my Trailer LED side market lights I use for rear turn signals.

This subframe (16) is not flush with the bottom of the factory rear fender (12). There is some room between (16) and (12). None of the bolt locations line up with a flat spot on the factory fender

To mount a rear rack, do I use the 4 (or 5) vertical holes, run spacers that pass through larger holes (I would need to drill) in the rear fender (12) then mount the rack on top? This way the rear fender (12) would "float" because the spacers pass through (12).
I don't think I will put a rotoplex on the back. It's to large. Wish they made a 2 quart version.

Guess I will see how far I can go on 1.9 gallons.
I'm just trail riding and I have the Factory maps turned on (O2 sensor installed). I hope to go 60 miles when the fuel light comes on.
I have an old waist tool bag that holds 2 small water jugs (might be 1 cup each) that I might be able to carry 1/4 gallon of fuel on. Don't sound like much but it might add 10 miles range I use a Camelback mounted on my chest protector for water.
I have read guys getting high 40's MPG taking it easy, and others running out of fuel at 50 miles in race mode (no o2 sensor).

 

[Rearwheelin]

Looks like I will be adding a few pounds to the back pack !

 

[montanaman]

MSR fuel canisters available at outdoor stores. Can hold you over a bit. I carry one in my camelpack.. I would not carry fuel that is not vented properly or you might end up like the drummer in Spinal Tap..

 

[MontyCarlo]

Towpro - sounds like you're good to go for mounting a Pro Moto Billet, factory or other rack, but you are correct that you will have to drill holes in the fender and add spacers to reach the parcel carrier (16). You are right the Rotopax is pretty bulky, and Montanaman's suggestion of a couple of MSR fuel bottles is a good one. The MSR 1 Liter bottles gets you just over a quarter gallon of fuel each.

 

[glangston]

Also carry 2 MSR aluminum ful bottles.

Motosportz (Kelly) I think messed around with the rack and rotopax

http://www.cafehusky.com/threads/post-your-last-purchase-for-your-630.20390/page-15#post-207192

Pic of one on a 630

 

[Slowpoke]

IMO an MSR dromedary bag is a much more flexible way to carry extra fuel. They're tough as nails and you can put them wherever you can squeeze them in.
When I needed extra fuel capacity, I took my 4l dromedary, put about 2.5 l in it and stashed it in my Wolfman enduro tank bag. Easy peasy. Cheaper to buy than a Rotopax also.........

 

[towpro]

Thanks everyone. I will have to actually ride it long enough to see what the MPG really is on the trail. But this year is going to include much more dirt riding then last year

I thought of another idea I might look into. Weed wacker gas tanks. There small, all kinds of different shapes all over ebay. and I might be able to find something that fits somewhere if needed. You could use the tank vent to siphon fuel through one, or quick release it so you could just dump it into the tank.

I do hate the idea of carrying fuel on my body. Even if it gets on you without catching fire it burns the heck out of your skin. (ever had a tank cap come loose and soak your crotch with fuel before you notice it leaking?)

And I looked up the drummer in Spinal Tap, Wow, which one?

Other members have included
Pete “James” Bond (died of spontaneous combustion, 1976), drums
John “Stumpy” Pepys (died in a gardening accident),drums
Eric “Stumpy Joe” Childs (died of a melanin overdose),drums
Mick Shrimpton (died of spontaneous combustion, 1984),drums
Joe “Mama” Besser (joined band, 1984; presumed dead),drums
Viv Savage (died of purported swamp gas poisoning), keyboards

 

[shilo020]

I tried putting gal rotopax on a rack on my TE310 last weekend. Disaster. On anything sandy the bike was almost uncontrollable. The front was too light and would surf unpredictably . Had to ride up on the fill cap. Moved the rotopax to back pack and then no problems. On the back is a much better place to carry weight than the tail of the bike. I'm getting and IMS tank soon.

 

[Rearwheelin]

I tried putting gal rotopax on a rack on my TE310 last weekend. Disaster. On anything sandy the bike was almost uncontrollable. The front was too light and would surf unpredictably . Had to ride up on the fill cap. Moved the rotopax to back pack and then no problems. On the back is a much better place to carry weight than the tail of the bike. I'm getting and IMS tank soon.

Hit me up if you want to get rid of the 1 gal rotopax

 

[R_Little]

Took it apart last night, I already have 16. It is used to mount an aftermarket rear tag/light assemble (60) that the past owner said came with the uprate kit.

Mine 16 was broken on the side at the center bolt hole (I think last owner did an endo).
I added a piece of aluminum plate to the inside, drilled and taped 4 holes into the original bracket, run screws through the new plate into the original bracket, cut them off flush and used lock tight on them. I think that will be a fix.

Mine (16) is attached to the factory subframe by the four forward horizontal holes.
The vertical holes are bolted to the aftermarket taillight sub fender (16).
Then the two rear horizontal holes are used to bolt to sub fender (16) and they also hold my Trailer LED side market lights I use for rear turn signals.

This subframe (16) is not flush with the bottom of the factory rear fender (12). There is some room between (16) and (12). None of the bolt locations line up with a flat spot on the factory fender

To mount a rear rack, do I use the 4 (or 5) vertical holes, run spacers that pass through larger holes (I would need to drill) in the rear fender (12) then mount the rack on top? This way the rear fender (12) would "float" because the spacers pass through (12).
I don't think I will put a rotoplex on the back. It's to large. Wish they made a 2 quart version.

Guess I will see how far I can go on 1.9 gallons.
I'm just trail riding and I have the Factory maps turned on (O2 sensor installed). I hope to go 60 miles when the fuel light comes on.
I have an old waist tool bag that holds 2 small water jugs (might be 1 cup each) that I might be able to carry 1/4 gallon of fuel on. Don't sound like much but it might add 10 miles range I use a Camelback mounted on my chest protector for water.
I have read guys getting high 40's MPG taking it easy, and others running out of fuel at 50 miles in race mode (no o2 sensor).

I'm lucky if I can get 35 miles from a tank on my '10 TE250 riding south Jersey trails.

 

[shilo020]

Thanks Rearwheelin. I gonna keep the rotopax as it fits nice in the backpack. Sometimes we go a long ways.

 

[Rearwheelin]

Thanks Rearwheelin. I gonna keep the rotopax as it fits nice in the backpack. Sometimes we go a long ways.

I have some favorite loops that go long too, I think I will have to get the deal and buy two for $100 , they seem perfect for the NorthFace pack and good fall cushion for back landings

 

[Nomadic]

Here's a rough prototype I made for a guy in L.A. It mounts all rotopax gas packs, a GIVI hardcase (with universal adapter) and still utilizes those nice grab handles. Pricing will be $89 from www.nomadic-racks.com. Best part is it weighs less than 2 lbs.! Oh, and the finished product will have a small texture powdercoat kind of like the seat...



I don't have an estimated release date until I can get ahold of an owner with another 630 to perfect the product...I offer a free rack to anyone who loans their bike out for R&D use. Any takers in the SD area? Please email me at www.nomadic-racks.com. Thanks!

 

[XLEnduroMan]

Nomadic, Your rack looks real nice! Nice work.

 

[GemSTateSt]

Nice work and a good price on the rack.