Rear tire wear TE 450-510

[hogwackr]

What miles do you get out of a rear tire on your thumpers? Please include tire type and terrain. I'm looking for an agressive dot knobby that can take the abuse of my TE 450.

 

[Mr Sleazy]

I used to run a Maxxis Desert IT rear, would get 1400-1600 km. Mixed desert, pavement, pacific NW singletrack. Not DOT, but its OK on the road.

Now use Mitas ET-01 trials tire with tubliss, I got about 1600 km on the last one. Same type of riding. Tire is DOT approved.

I am not an agressive rider, more a tractor-style than high-speed high-spin.

 

[PALMER84ONE]

http://www.cafehusky.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11218&highlight=tire+eating+machine

It's in the 610 Forum but there may be some informative decisions on a good tire.

Allot of people have turned to the Trials type (my next one) and they say they wear good and have plenty of traction in all types of tera. I burned the stock one off, then on to a Maxxis Desert IT, Karoo Metzler, and AC-10 now. The AC-10 is working nice and did on my XR400 that I used to have. To give you an idea, that is 3 1/2 tires and 4000 miles. The AC-10 is pretty new with only 250 miles on it but still looks great. I ride desert and mountain combined. The Maxxis was used in a 450 mile run in Baja and didn't last much longer after that ride. MT 43 Trials tire is up next, as said, hear nothing but good about it ran at 8 lbs in all types of tera. You can get them for 68.00 at Motorcyclesuperstore. Add a couple of other goodies 40 21 more bucks and shipping is free.

 

[hogwackr]

I do alot of higher speed riding (50-60 mph) and run all types of terrain. I'm one of those wot riders. Think a trials tire would work well for this applicaion? I just have a hard time getting over the look of them......

 

[ghte]

Trials Tyre definately not for tarmac or real speed work. get a Motoz front and rear-look for 2000+ miles.

 

[ken510]

We ride mostly single track that is wet and slippery most of the time. The trials tire is way to go in these conditions. Downright amazing as a matter of fact. I've had Dunlop and Michelin...both excellent tires.(Not good at high speeds however, running at 8psi). I like the Bridgestone M404 for a knobby. I can get 500-600 miles out of the rear spinning in the rocks and roots. The price is right and they are pretty easy to change. Motosportz has a new tire that is supposed to work well, you might want to check that one out.

 

[columbia510]

I run the the Kenda K270 rear and K760 for the front. The rear is not a super aggressive tire however the front 760 is. I have run the 760 rear and LOVED it, however I didn't get many miles out of it. The k270 rear is more of a trials look alike. I get approx 1200-1500 miles out of a rear 270 and I could run the front 760 longer but I don't. I used to run the Dunlop 606's and if I was lucky I might get 606 miles out of them.

I ride standing up 90% of the time and rely on a front more than a rear tire. I don't rail every corner and I let the bike do whatever she wants. I just aim and hold on. cheapest priced dot tire I could find under $90 to my door.

 

[RLW]

What miles do you get out of a rear tire on your thumpers? Please include tire type and terrain. I'm looking for an agressive dot knobby that can take the abuse of my TE 450.

Kenda Trakmaster II, K760, 120/100-18 (& matching front). 13psi frt & rr.........Replaced it at 1517 miles, w/approx 3/8" tread left and no chunking with another of the same (a nephew took old one and ran it now on his Honda XR)

Open desert trails w/rock, gravel, WOT sandwashes, loose hill climbs, hitting it across short sections of whoops, etc.
Mtn trails at a much more controlled smooth pace, w/more rock, hardpack and two-track road, some roots, some mud but not a lot, rocky stream crossing, etc
....and a short paved section of road once in a while, but maybe only a couple hundred of that 1500.

 

[HUSKYnXJnWI]

Kenda K760 Is a good DOT tire for offroad: http://www.kendausa.com/en/home/motorcycle/dual-sport/k760-trakmaster-ii.aspx

In Wisconsin we don't need DOT tires for Dualsport or to be on the road or for any inspections. YOU can't plate an converted bike without the govener's son next to you in line at the DMV- but they don't know or don't care about DOT tires.

That said I have ran this tire- and it does well- some guys use it regularily- like my Enduro A class friend who uses it on his dual sport bike.

I don't care for the fronts- for me they pushed in corners- some don't mind the fronts though- MOST Pirelli fronts are DOT certified (has to do with applying and paying to get them certified more than it's performance on the road).

So in your circumstance- I would get a Pirelli MT32 or equivalent for the front- and a Kenda K760 rear. The front will wear on pavement as fast as the rear. Depending on how you accelerated and brake: if you are doing wheelies and stoppies don't expect tires to last, no matter the type. Just find tires that perform for you and change as needed. Its impossible to find a tire that actually hooks up in all terrain, is DOT, and lasts a lifetime. the MT32 and k760 comes as close as I have found... And I run Michelin S12s

 

[Swampds]

I have the S12 rear on mine and it has held up very well for the amount of street time I have on them. The desert it front wears like iron also. The dunlop 606s are junk compared to the S12.

 

[Motosportz]

I have the S12 rear on mine and it has held up very well for the amount of street time I have on them. The desert it front wears like iron also. The dunlop 606s are junk compared to the S12.

Huh? really? I have the exact opposite feelings about those two tires.

 

[Motosportz]

Kenda K760 Is a good DOT tire for offroad: http://www.kendausa.com/en/home/motorcycle/dual-sport/k760-trakmaster-ii.aspx

In Wisconsin we don't need DOT tires for Dualsport or to be on the road or for any inspections. YOU can't plate an converted bike without the govener's son next to you in line at the DMV- but they don't know or don't care about DOT tires.

That said I have ran this tire- and it does well- some guys use it regularily- like my Enduro A class friend who uses it on his dual sport bike.

I don't care for the fronts- for me they pushed in corners- some don't mind the fronts though- MOST Pirelli fronts are DOT certified (has to do with applying and paying to get them certified more than it's performance on the road).

So in your circumstance- I would get a Pirelli MT32 or equivalent for the front- and a Kenda K760 rear. The front will wear on pavement as fast as the rear. Depending on how you accelerated and brake: if you are doing wheelies and stoppies don't expect tires to last, no matter the type. Just find tires that perform for you and change as needed. Its impossible to find a tire that actually hooks up in all terrain, is DOT, and lasts a lifetime. the MT32 and k760 comes as close as I have found... And I run Michelin S12s

Yep. Good recommendation IMHO.

 

[hogwackr]

Any word on the Motoz dot tire yet? I might have to throw those into the mix.....I have the front narrowed down to the Scorpion Pro. Anyone run the Scorpion Pro rear?

 

[patgas]

ac 10

i did about 3-4 hrs on ac10 at weekend couple miles on tarmac the rest in woods/rocky teraine and fire roads and edge has gone allready daaaaaaaaaaaaam pretty wot though but great fun nothing like a new tyre for awsome grip.

 

[brock]

Metzeler 6day Extreme front and rear. Its not about miles but grip for me and you cant fault it. Mud, rocks & gravel.
They do wear well too if you dont rip it up on the Asphalt.
Brock
TE510 09
UK

 

[XLEnduroMan]

Michelin S12 XC's arent DOT but they do not say "not for highway use" like the IRC VE 33/35 set I have to install. Just make sure to get the mud off your lights and license plate when you are on the pavement and dont run the marked off highway tires and you should be fine.

 

[Swampds]

Huh? really? I have the exact opposite feelings about those two tires.

The 606's wore really fast on the street and they weren't very good on anything but hardpack. Down here is florida it is sandy at most of the HS and places I ride and the 606 doesn't work well. The 140 S12 is a little too much for this bike...I am going to go with a 120 the next time I need a tire. Has anyone tried the M12? Are the lugs as agressive just harder?

 

[gearstace]

Pirelli MT 43 Trials tire(DOT); great all around tire and does well on the pavement. I have about 800 miles on mine and looks close too new; mostly single track and pavement (riding to and from my house to the trail heads). I run it at 9.5 psi. Just my two cents.

 

[K7MDL]

The 606's wore really fast on the street and they weren't very good on anything but hardpack. Down here is florida it is sandy at most of the HS and places I ride and the 606 doesn't work well. The 140 S12 is a little too much for this bike...I am going to go with a 120 the next time I need a tire. Has anyone tried the M12? Are the lugs as agressive just harder?

M12 lugs are aggressive. My M12 rear went fast (maybe <1K miles), very little pavement.

My M12 front is doing very well but the sharp rocks in my area on the last ride have removed (tore off) 1/4 of the shoulder knobs on each side. Considering a T63 DS tire on the front to keep my knobs longer (and is DOT), but the M12 front has done really well sticking to the trail, no drama. The MX12 might be a bit tougher and worth a try.

I have a MX12 rear waiting to go on, but instead opted to install a MT43.

The MT43: I did a serious trail ride through deep mud, puddles, rooty bogs, sharp rocks, more rooty steps, steep downhill V ruts, snow, and regular dirt. At 8 psi, I was impressed. The MX12 is going to be lonely in the garage for a long time I think.

 

[ghte]

Well a lot of different taste and choice which is great. But I ask you to really consider the Motaz brand just once. It is phenomenal in its wear, its hook up and allround flexibilty. The latter is due to its incredibly strong side wall that allows you to run down to 8 psi without pinch flats ( I kid you not). They pay off is that they are a tad heavier to give the endurance and strength described above. But heck guys the ability to run very soft or hard gives it a very wide geographical application, much more than all others inho.
I have no affilliation with Motoz other than a constant re user. Look at the tread patterns next time and get an idea about thier original approach to R&D-took 7 years to develop initially. I recommend both fronts and rears as exception and the best of breed without hesitation. Note they are directional-look at the tread pattern and you will see why. This does not diminish wear or milage but definately improves traction to a new level. Over to you guys to try something different and be prepared to be thrilled.