• Hi everyone,

    As you all know, Coffee (Dean) passed away a couple of years ago. I am Dean's ex-wife's husband and happen to have spent my career in tech. Over the years, I occasionally helped Dean with various tech issues.

    When he passed, I worked with his kids to gather the necessary credentials to keep this site running. Since then (and for however long they worked with Coffee), Woodschick and Dirtdame have been maintaining the site and covering the costs. Without their hard work and financial support, CafeHusky would have been lost.

    Over the past couple of weeks, I’ve been working to migrate the site to a free cloud compute instance so that Woodschick and Dirtdame no longer have to fund it. At the same time, I’ve updated the site to a current version of XenForo (the discussion software it runs on). The previous version was outdated and no longer supported.

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    Coffee didn’t document the work he did on the site, so I’ve been digging through the old setup to understand how everything was running. There may still be things I’ve missed. One known issue is that email functionality is not yet working on the new site, but I hope to resolve this over time.

    Thanks for your patience and support!

racing=exercise (or torture)

robertaccio

robertaccio

Husqvarna
Pro Class
data from Dirt Rider's Jesse Ziegler


WORCS

Duration of Workout: 1:00:15
Max Heart Rate (bpm): 198
Average Heart Rate (bpm): 179
Calories Burned: 916
Class/Place: Industry-B/1st


GNCC

Duration of Workout: 2:26:46.687
Max Heart Rate (bpm): 195
Average Heart Rate (bpm): 172
Calories Burned: 2160
Class/Place: Sportsmen 12-35/10th


National Enduro

Duration of Workout: 5:30:00
Max Heart Rate (bpm): 188
Average Heart Rate (bpm): 154
Calories Burned: 4686
Class/Place: Vet B/3rd

National Hare & Hound

Duration of Workout: 3:05:00
Max Heart Rate (bpm): 197
Average Heart Rate (bpm): 157
Calories Burned: 2624
Class/Place: Vet B/1st



Don't ever let anyone tell you riding isn't a workout.
 
Robertotaccio:

Now that's cool. I've raced bicycles for several years and record that sort of data via a powermeter and heartrate monitor. Those values compare to a time trial afterwhich most of us couldn't walk!

Howard
 
Incredible. I was just speculating to my enduro buddy as to how many calories I burned in the Speedsville Enduro that I houred out on. I honestly can say it was the most difficult physical undertaking I'd ever done, and as we were driving home, I thought that I'd burned upwards of 5000 calories. This was just seat of the pants speculation. I didn't have any heart rate monitor or anything, but it's cool to see I wasn't that far off!
 
I remember racing in a Cross Country race in 1975 on my Husky GP125. Over 400 bikes on the starting line. Finished in just over 4 hours in 21st overall and thought I was going to die. Had to pry my hands off the bars and passed out in the van after. They prodded me awake 5 hours later when we arrived home. I don't know how many calories I burned but I lost 10 lbs off a 125 lb starting weight. That was a long time ago and I haven't seen that side of 180 in 12 years. I couldn't maintain that pace for 30 minutes now days.

Wish I could ride at least 3-4 times a week and maybe I could get down to that 180 I want.

Walt
 
I remember the good old days of being in awesome shape too, Walt.


Youth really is wasted on the young.
 
I lost almost five pounds at Speedsville. All water weight, because it was magically back in two days.
 
I lost 4 lbs of water wieght at Milestone last night in approx 2 hours of actual ride time...

I'm going to strap on my Polar next time I go out....

T
 
HuskyT;46652 said:
I lost 4 lbs of water wieght at Milestone last night in approx 2 hours of actual ride time...

I'm going to strap on my Polar next time I go out....

T
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Your gonna strap on a what? :eek:

I read the same article, and as a National Enduro rider I was impressed myself at the calories burned. I am never hungry after a race though. I only eat breakfast, usually fast food, then a snickers or energy chews and a red bull at gas stops. Plus a camelback of water of course.
 
the heart rates of the racer in question seem extremely high, I believe its recommended that your max heart rate is 220- your age, so for me aged 35 that would be 185.
but for training then you should only work to 80% of the max which would be for me 148.

i dont know who the guy is but would he considered a fast rider or very fit? looking at his results probably not, i would say he is really over extending himself at those kind of heart rates. obviously in a race situation your rate will skyrocket at times but an average of 179 for the WORCS event is crazy.

maybe i am way off base here, any thoughts?
 
Jesse Z is not a pro, but a solid vet B level rider, physically he is in lean/good shape appearance.

look up Aldon Baker for training heart rate info

Schumi liked to keep himself constant at 140 with peaks above 200 during his 2 hour F1 races .
 
Your max heart rate is your max heart rate (and you base all your workouts off of percentages of that number)...you can't improve it with any amount of fitness. Now your resting heart rate...that you can lower with exercise. When I was in really, really good shape I could run 3 miles in 18 minutes on a treadmill (not the same as doing it on the road) and I had a resting heart rate in the mid 40's...low 50's (best time to take it is in the morning before you get up after a good night of sleep). Now it's in the mid to high 60's. I think I heard that Lance Armstrong has a resting HR of 32 - 34 BPM and a max HR of 201. Miguel Indurain had a resting HR of around 27 to 28!

As a side note, I found out that my max HR (10 years ago, mind you) was around 195. The test was administered on a treadmill.

David
 
Max Heartrate

I agree with Fitness2go. The 220 - age rule of thumb for maximum heart rate is too general for most athletes. However, it can probably keep folks who buy a heart rate monitor and start pounding miles on bicycle or other means of elevating heart rate from getting a heart attack on their first outing.

When I trained with a coach there were 7 or eight of us between 50 and 55 using the same coach. Our maximum heart rates varied from 150 through 195. If you want to train via numbers and monitors rather than perceived exertion (there are advantages to both approaches) and have access to an exercise physiology lab, another good heart rate to use is your lactic acid threshold.

When I last rode a good 40 km Time Trial on a bicycle I was 55. Average HR was 172 for 56.75 minutes, minimum HR was 168 and maximum was 178. Time trials are steady efforts so the HR curves are pretty flat. Look at a mass start race and the average might be similar but there would a lot of time at lower values and some extreme anaerobic efforts right up at max. I'd guess that enduro racing on a moto would be similar to the mass start race - lots of variability and the key is being able to recover from the near max efforts.

Howard Snell
 
yeah i figured the 220-age to be a general rule just erring on the side of caution to prevent people from killing themselves training especially on their first visit to a gym in 20 years maybe.

i usually try to train at a rate of 155 and hold it constant with some steps up in intensity at intervals and then recover back to 155. i find that this seems to be the most helpful type of training for me. i ride enduro and hare and hound races only, no mx except the odd practice track.
i have become more interested in the fitness training as i have gotten older as i dont have the natural fitness you seem to have when younger, so i am having to work harder at it.

i have taken part in two events over the years where two riders died from heart attacks and the profile of the guys, was older mid 40s guys, pretty unfit who obviously over exerted themselves on the course to the point of exhaustion/overload and their heart couldnt take it. that was kind of what sparked my interest in the whole heart rate thing.

:thumbsup: interesting discussion
 
The 220 minus your age is a general formula. To get your actual, there is a process to go through and calculate it as a few have stated here. I'm really only posting to brag about my 31-34 resting heart rate. To calculate your true resting heart rate, you need to do so after a good night of rest and after your morning pee. Then lay down for a few minutes and relax and measure. I put my HR monitor on and set it to sound an alarm at 32 and it goes off and I check and it's 31. I haven't set the alarm lower to see if my number is really lower, and just figure I'm in the low 30's. Endurance has always come naturally to me and that's likely part of the reason. The main thing keeping me from being faster at these ecea enduro's is the unwillingness to ride faster and not wanting to get hurt. I've been finding it's a lot easier though the faster I ride.
 
All- while not Husky specific, how about some props for an old NESC guy by the name of John Dowd. 3rd at Southwick against all the factory guys- John's 44 year old. Talk about the value of being in shape!!
 
Props and more. That is flat-out awesome! WOW. That has to be the oldest highest finishing mx ever? Anyone??????? F!, I'm 37, I still have time! P90x here I come!!!
 
Leftcoast leftkicker;47330 said:
All- while not Husky specific, how about some props for an old NESC guy by the name of John Dowd. 3rd at Southwick against all the factory guys- John's 44 year old. Talk about the value of being in shape!!
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Saw that last night (dvr) - awesome! :applause:


ARod2000;47394 said:
Props and more. That is flat-out awesome! WOW. That has to be the oldest highest finishing mx ever? Anyone??????? F!, I'm 37, I still have time! P90x here I come!!!
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I'll cheer for you :thumbsup:
 
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