Mike Rotella
Husqvarna
A Class
My dealer will give me $3500 for mine. He has a warehouse full of new 14 and 13 310's. $4999 for brand new ones. He said he cant give them away. Hes also a KTM dealer.
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New model Husky Prices (MSRP at least)?
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Husqvarna
reveille
Husqvarna
Pro Class
Dam, tell him I will buy a 2014 for that price now! Where is the dealer located at? all the 2014's round these parts sold fast for $6400.
Peer pressure sucks lol. After the race I used the redhead on, it's now on the dream bike list for me. I get where you're coming from though. A bike that's been down that much mechanically, hard to have any faith in it at this point. If my deal on a TC449 falls through, I'm probably going to get a 2 stroke. It sounds like KTM 2 strokes have their own starter issues though. Either way, ride the hell out of the 310 before you decide maybe you'll trust it again
robertaccio
Husqvarna
Pro Class
I promise to ride the thing hard this weekend......lets see after. Back to 2014 model price topic.....
Mike Rotella
Husqvarna
A Class
Palmetto Motorsports. Hialeah, Fl. ask for Todd
We did the 310 starter fix and exhaust valve snugging early. 25 hours of trouble free racing and other fun. We may upgrade to a new TE300...or we may ride on with the 310...its all good.
Norman Foley
Husqvarna
Pro Class
It's all conjecture, until early next year. Dealers haven't been signed up yet, much less pricing released to them.
A post from Chilly White, in the Husqvarna Forum on KTM Talk. This is in reply, to a thread I started on when will
bikes be in the US. Maybe someone in the know can fill things in a little....
"Things seem to be moving slower than expected. They have not hired anyone yet for the new company. Right now it is just Andy Jefferson and Charles Jirsra. They are sort of working out of the KTM headquarters right now. My impression is that they are primarily working on "old" bike administration, warranty claims and such.
I believe there are only a couple of bikes in the country right now and they are just for homologation. So I am sure that part of the reason is just all the red tape to sell in Ca and the US. I suspect the 2014 bike build will be sold to the rest of the world, not many are going to get here.
But there still seems to be a bit of.... not sure the correct word... lack of firm direction at KTM about who is going to do what. KTM Sales department seems to be in charge right now and that means everything Husky has to go though various departments before getting the green light. It also means that there is a continual KTM vs Husky decision process. There certainly is no autonomy for the brand yet. Pretty much just the way Berg was run previously."
A post from Chilly White, in the Husqvarna Forum on KTM Talk. This is in reply, to a thread I started on when will
bikes be in the US. Maybe someone in the know can fill things in a little....
"Things seem to be moving slower than expected. They have not hired anyone yet for the new company. Right now it is just Andy Jefferson and Charles Jirsra. They are sort of working out of the KTM headquarters right now. My impression is that they are primarily working on "old" bike administration, warranty claims and such.
I believe there are only a couple of bikes in the country right now and they are just for homologation. So I am sure that part of the reason is just all the red tape to sell in Ca and the US. I suspect the 2014 bike build will be sold to the rest of the world, not many are going to get here.
But there still seems to be a bit of.... not sure the correct word... lack of firm direction at KTM about who is going to do what. KTM Sales department seems to be in charge right now and that means everything Husky has to go though various departments before getting the green light. It also means that there is a continual KTM vs Husky decision process. There certainly is no autonomy for the brand yet. Pretty much just the way Berg was run previously."
Sounds like it's run by the brain trust that brought us Obamacare. First they tell us it's a whole different direction, but not really, that the bikes will still be a good value, and with their expertise in running a big company it will be better than ever.
Sorry. couldn't resist.
Sorry. couldn't resist.
Connor
Husqvarna
AA Class
I am also considering getting another bike. Not because I am unhappy with mine but just because I'd like to try something else. I am considering the beta 250rr at the moment. Im really liking their BYOB program, great idea for those that want the bike setup for you from the factory (or at least pretty close). I was considering 2 bikes. KTM 350 xcf-w or Beta 250rr. One costs WAY more then the other, not sure if I can justify the added price of the KTM.
water racer
Husqvarna
Pro Class
I know this is off topic, but it keeps coming up that Beta is just an Italian KTM. If this was true, then it would not be a bad thing because you get a rock solid simple bike with linkage and a starter that works for a cheaper price.
But the bikes are different with a totally different feel. The Beta has a low seat height that helps in the rough, but a frame design that is very comfortable standing. The Beta feels lighter on the trail than any bike I have ridden(have not ridden a Sherco) The trials heritage shows in the Beta, thats almost what it feels like.
The Beta seat feels very hard at first but on the trail it feels very good because it is flat. My butt never hurts until I trade out with someone on a KTM.
Better than all the other bikes? No, but generations behind KTM, absolutely no. That is just a bunch of that SP baloney handed down like when he said Italian Husqvarna bikes were all hopelessly outdated.
But the bikes are different with a totally different feel. The Beta has a low seat height that helps in the rough, but a frame design that is very comfortable standing. The Beta feels lighter on the trail than any bike I have ridden(have not ridden a Sherco) The trials heritage shows in the Beta, thats almost what it feels like.
The Beta seat feels very hard at first but on the trail it feels very good because it is flat. My butt never hurts until I trade out with someone on a KTM.
Better than all the other bikes? No, but generations behind KTM, absolutely no. That is just a bunch of that SP baloney handed down like when he said Italian Husqvarna bikes were all hopelessly outdated.
Norman Foley
Husqvarna
Pro Class
If you compare a KTM 350XCF-W 4T to a Beta 250RR 2T the price difference is going to look huge.... $1500. If you compare Beta 350RR 4T to Beta 250RR2T, it's still a $1000 difference. KTM 250 XC-W 2T is 8299.00 and Beta 250RR 2T is $7999, so a $300 difference. All Husabergs are $50 more than a comparable KTM.
On the BYOB program, 350 is discounted $270 and 250 $240. Some KTM and Husaberg dealers are already discounting 350 XCF-W/FE350 $950 and 250XC-W/TE250 $650, so price difference shrinks.
Beta MSRP is lower, just trying to compare apples to apples....
reveille
Husqvarna
Pro Class
I just went down this path and I was able to find a new leftover 2013 350xcf w for 7900 (8300 OTD). I would consider a Beta 400rr if I could just get a dealer to return my calls... 5 messages sent and so far no responses after 3 weeks of trying. Beta dealers don't seem very excited to sell me a bike IMO.
You could also say a KTM is an Austrian Beta! A LOT of KTM parts and some complete engines come from the Beta factory under contract mfging. All the mini motors for sure. Look at the anniversary vido and factory tour, there are racks of KTM motors. The factory looks huge, bigger than what Beta production alone would justify. I can tell you that there are a lot of similarities, but things were not blindly copied. There are many improvements over the KTM. The estart design for one. The PV is similar to the KTM on the lower end, and similar to the GasGas in the top end, which is a great, simple and durable design, better than KTM.
I've raced GGs for many years. They were always heavy, but when they got bigger and taller in '12 it became a lot more noticable. I owned and rode '07 and '12 GG250s at the same time. What really bugged me, as an eastern woods rider, is the really poor steering lock on the new frame. Even in HS where you are zig-zagged to slow before scoring I would hit the stops, sometimes forcd to spin and kick the rear out to make the turn. Of all the problems I had with my '12 this one I could not fix, I was stuck with it. You get used to it but its still a PIA. West coast and/or desert guys with no bar width trees to wiggle through may not have an issue. Once set up and debugged, its a good HS bike where the course is more open as its very stable and the fork is awesome.
Still, the Beta just does everything as well or better with none of the drama. WAY lighter, and a more "active ride". Its funny that KTM guys think a Beta is super stable and GG guys think its a bit light up front. It basically does what you want, you just have to get more weight up front for turns where you can get away with being more lazy on a GG. I raced the first half of the season on the '12 GG250 and last half on the Beta. While the dynamics of the class changed over the season I was faster on the Beta. JMO.
I've raced GGs for many years. They were always heavy, but when they got bigger and taller in '12 it became a lot more noticable. I owned and rode '07 and '12 GG250s at the same time. What really bugged me, as an eastern woods rider, is the really poor steering lock on the new frame. Even in HS where you are zig-zagged to slow before scoring I would hit the stops, sometimes forcd to spin and kick the rear out to make the turn. Of all the problems I had with my '12 this one I could not fix, I was stuck with it. You get used to it but its still a PIA. West coast and/or desert guys with no bar width trees to wiggle through may not have an issue. Once set up and debugged, its a good HS bike where the course is more open as its very stable and the fork is awesome.
Still, the Beta just does everything as well or better with none of the drama. WAY lighter, and a more "active ride". Its funny that KTM guys think a Beta is super stable and GG guys think its a bit light up front. It basically does what you want, you just have to get more weight up front for turns where you can get away with being more lazy on a GG. I raced the first half of the season on the '12 GG250 and last half on the Beta. While the dynamics of the class changed over the season I was faster on the Beta. JMO.