• Hi everyone,

    As you all know, Coffee (Dean) passed away a couple of years ago. I am Dean's ex-wife's husband and happen to have spent my career in tech. Over the years, I occasionally helped Dean with various tech issues.

    When he passed, I worked with his kids to gather the necessary credentials to keep this site running. Since then (and for however long they worked with Coffee), Woodschick and Dirtdame have been maintaining the site and covering the costs. Without their hard work and financial support, CafeHusky would have been lost.

    Over the past couple of weeks, I’ve been working to migrate the site to a free cloud compute instance so that Woodschick and Dirtdame no longer have to fund it. At the same time, I’ve updated the site to a current version of XenForo (the discussion software it runs on). The previous version was outdated and no longer supported.

    Unfortunately, the new software version doesn’t support importing the old site’s styles, so for now, you’ll see the XenForo default style. This may change over time.

    Coffee didn’t document the work he did on the site, so I’ve been digging through the old setup to understand how everything was running. There may still be things I’ve missed. One known issue is that email functionality is not yet working on the new site, but I hope to resolve this over time.

    Thanks for your patience and support!

My Tale Of Woe

I agree with Jtemple, they will continue to have the parts so the story from the dealer sounds a bit fishy. Send me a PM if you go the KTM route and you want to sell the FMF, I might be interested. Good luck!
 
I only ask what state because I'm on the east coast and could make a personal visit to the shop if it's on my area. We have 3 with in an hr drive and I'm always looking for a reason to go look at bikes. I could ask if they have a 630 for sale...
 
Got a call last night from Fred, East Region Manager for Husqvarna. Told him my story, he wanted to do some investigation.

He called me back a bit later, told me that the bike I had agreed to purchase ‘does not seem to exist’. He gave me a line on a used on at a midwest dealer. I called them this morning, they want $7200 for it. Again, I am not interested in spending that kind of money for a bike that just a couple months ago sold new for $6000 - $6500.

I called the original dealer this morning to give him a chance to explain the situation, he is adamant that he is not trying to screw me over and continues to look for a bike for me.

At this point I think I’ve had enough fun trying to get Husqvarna to sell me the motorcycle they agreed to. I’m going to take a day or two to think it over but right now I’m leaning toward orange.
 
If they made an agreement with you, they should sell you a new bike at the quoted price... Even if that means THEY have to pay more for it from another dealer and lose $$ transfering it to you.. saying the "bike doesnt seem to exist" sure sems like the dealer was trying to pull something funny. Between them and the regional rep they should make GOOD on it, AND easily and quickly... You should also call out the dealers name so others know whether or not they want to deal with such people.
 
LRPct said:
If they made an agreement with you, they should sell you a new bike at the quoted price... Even if that means THEY have to pay more for it from another dealer and lose $$ transfering it to you.. saying the "bike doesnt seem to exist" sure sems like the dealer was trying to pull something funny. Between them and the regional rep they should make GOOD on it, AND easily and quickly... You should also call out the dealers name so others know whether or not they want to deal with such people.
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I agree that they should make it right. After talking to the dealer and the region manager it is obvious that they have no intention of doing that.
 
Personally, I'm sick and tired of getting the runaround by various businesses. It seems to happen more often than not nowadays. It just floors me how difficult it can sometimes be to give someone money.

You've already jumped through more hoops than you should have had to, in order to give someone thousands of dollars of your money for a product. I would have walked a long time ago.

When I was DS bike shopping, the local KTM dealer was the first place I called. I wanted to buy locally. Here, KTM is your only choice. There is no Husky dealer within 400-500 miles.

Here's essentially how it went:
Hey, I want a 690 Enduro, can you get me one? I have cash.
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No, sorry. We are a KTM dealer, but we don't sell that model. You'll have to go to Kansas City.
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Ok, thanks.
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That was the end of it. The 630 was on the short list of bikes I wanted. If I was going to have to get a bike from several hundred miles away, certainly wasn't going to buy a bike make where the local dealer was going to just blow me off like that. The Husky was at the top of my list anyway. The only con was the lack of local dealership. The difference was, I purchased one and had it shipped to my driveway, sans bulls**t.

I don't have the time or the desire to beg someone to take my money.

This was all done back when the 630 prices were high. So the price difference between the KTM and the Husky was minimal.
 
Personally, I'm sick and tired of getting the runaround by various businesses. It seems to happen more often than not nowadays. It just floors me how difficult it can sometimes be to give someone money.
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It does boggle the mind, doesn't it.
 
My only remaining thought is... if you can find a clean used TE, even at $6-$6500, it is arguably as good or better value/bike than the comparable used KTM model. :)

Good luck!

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So where does the dealer say the bike with the problem went? Do they still have it?

Why can't Husky just boat another over on their next shipment of current production bikes to the US?

Report to the Better Business Bereau?
File a claim in small claims court for the bike?
 
jtemple said:
Personally, I'm sick and tired of getting the runaround by various businesses. It seems to happen more often than not nowadays. It just floors me how difficult it can sometimes be to give someone money.

You've already jumped through more hoops than you should have had to, in order to give someone thousands of dollars of your money for a product. I would have walked a long time ago.

When I was DS bike shopping, the local KTM dealer was the first place I called. I wanted to buy locally. Here, KTM is your only choice. There is no Husky dealer within 400-500 miles.

Here's essentially how it went:




That was the end of it. The 630 was on the short list of bikes I wanted. If I was going to have to get a bike from several hundred miles away, certainly wasn't going to buy a bike make where the local dealer was going to just blow me off like that. The Husky was at the top of my list anyway. The only con was the lack of local dealership. The difference was, I purchased one and had it shipped to my driveway, sans bulls**t.

I don't have the time or the desire to beg someone to take my money.

This was all done back when the 630 prices were high. So the price difference between the KTM and the Husky was minimal.
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Pretty sure KTM separates the "dirt bike" and "street bike" segments of their market, and a dealer has the option (and added expense) of selling both lines or not. The Adventure bikes and Supermoto fall into that category, not sure about the 690. And not sure about your local dealer or not.
Nice rant. :thumbsup:
 
LRPct said:
If they made an agreement with you, they should sell you a new bike at the quoted price... Even if that means THEY have to pay more for it from another dealer and lose $$ transfering it to you.. saying the "bike doesnt seem to exist" sure sems like the dealer was trying to pull something funny. Between them and the regional rep they should make GOOD on it, AND easily and quickly... You should also call out the dealers name so others know whether or not they want to deal with such people.
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Uh, gee, as poorly as this dealer has communicated and performed, they are under no obligation to deliver a bike they don't have. This is just silly talk.
What are they supposed to 'make good' on? That they would sell him a bike they don't have? Reality check!

If it were me, I would either find a used 630 or a 690. There will be 630's coming up for sale, and there are a few 690's around.
The $7200 selling price might work if it's out the door pricing. I paid $7500 with everything, no regrets there. IMHO the guys that got bikes for $6000 found a dealer running scared, or agreed to give up half their profit to move it.
 
Thumperama said:
You must be lost. This is Cafe "Husky", and based on your statement, you obviously haven't ridden a TE630.
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I have not ridden the TE630, but own a TE510 and have twice ridden the 690, and the 690 is a far better DS. The 690 is smoother, faster, and lighter than the 630. The 2012 690 displaces 690 cc, which is more than the 630. Unfortunately the 690 is more expensive.

Years ago I had a similar deal on a new Ford Mustang GT convertible. The local dealer, very well respected, gave me a verbal deal that they never delivered on. Without a contract, there was no recourse. Next time, lock 'em in by putting a deposit down.
 
Just put a deposit down on a lightly used 2010 KTM 690 Enduro R, going to pick it up tomorrow. Will be posting an ad for my TE630 specific parts in the classified section soon.

Thanks to all for suggestions, opinions, and letting me tell my story.
 
hope you enjoy your KTM.it is a nice machine.too bad you had so much trouble not getting the Husky you deserved.Dan
 
Sorry to see you got a dealer squiller that didn't pull through and it made you go to orange. I have had good luck with dealing with out of state dealers thus far. Well there is the one in Tucson that didn't tell me they would charge me 10% if I didn't pay cash but it was only 100.00 bucks mor and I got a new 09 TE 450 for 4999.00 in November. Still, I think if you would have had a down payment you could have held them to delivering. Good luck with the KTM.
 
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I have not ridden the TE630, but own a TE510 and have twice ridden the 690, and the 690 is a far better DS. The 690 is smoother, faster, and lighter than the 630. The 2012 690 displaces 690 cc, which is more than the 630. Unfortunately the 690 is more expensive.

Years ago I had a similar deal on a new Ford Mustang GT convertible. The local dealer, very well respected, gave me a verbal deal that they never delivered on. Without a contract, there was no recourse. Next time, lock 'em in by putting a deposit down.
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Uggg.. really? Even attempting to claim one thing is better than the other without having experience with both.. wth does a 510 have to do with what suits a better ds, a 630 or 690..??.. The tighter 690 gearbox does not make for a "better" ds. Try getting some REAL experience before throwing around broad claims.. thats all..
 
Runner said:
I have not ridden the TE630, but own a TE510 and have twice ridden the 690, and the 690 is a far better DS. The 690 is smoother, faster, and lighter than the 630. The 2012 690 displaces 690 cc, which is more than the 630. Unfortunately the 690 is more expensive.

Years ago I had a similar deal on a new Ford Mustang GT convertible. The local dealer, very well respected, gave me a verbal deal that they never delivered on. Without a contract, there was no recourse. Next time, lock 'em in by putting a deposit down.
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This is pretty off the wall so I would just like to set the record straight.

First of all, the 510 is not comparable to a 690, so if that's what you're basing your opinion on you've started at a big disadvantage.

That being said, I will say upfront that I have not personally ridden a 690, but this is what I've been able to learn on the user forums about them and from my own owner experience with the 630.

The 690 owners biggest bitch is the gear ratios. That and keeping them running, they have been plagued with FI and electrical problems. I don't know how one could come away from Luke & Nick's Africa report and not be at least a bit gun shy. The 610/630 gear ratios have been said to be the best in the industry. And the 630 shifts like butter.

The weight difference is negligible, however the 690 does have more horsepower, but neither bike can exploit all it's power offroad anyway. The only place this really comes into play is high speed on road and hole-shot. Niether bike works very well for high-speed road work and who really cares about a slight hole-shot advantage on a dualsport? These are not race bikes.

The 690 is a little better suspended so can carry on a bit faster in tougher terrain. A plus for the orange brand. The Husky can be improved by a tuner, especially with all the money you saved from the difference in purchase cost.

When the 630 came out at $8999 there was a bit of an advantage price-wise with the Husky. When it dropped to $6495 it became the steal-deal of the century.

The 630 is tall, the 690 is way taller yet. May or may not affect a given rider.

The 690 doesn't have a conventional twin down-tube frame configuration so the motor is just hanging down there. It's much easier to protect the 630 undercarriage.

While the subframe on the husky is a weak point that can be reinforced, the 690 pretty much doesn't even have one.

I'm a big KTM fan so if the bikes were for sale side by side, for the same money, I'm not quite sure which I'd choose. Expecially now after having owned the Husky. In the past I would have said KTM, but now I'm not so sure. I am pretty sure that given all of the differences, especially the difference in purchase cost, I made the right choice for me.

In summary, making a simpe broad-brush statement that the KTM is 'smoother, faster, lighter, better, etc. doesn't take into consideration all of the real differences.

Oh, and even with a deposit a deal is not 'locked down'. A dealer can simply refund a deposit and back out of a deal. They are not obligated to sell you something they can't deliver or don't have. They can back out if it's a loser, or if their situation changes. As a buyer, you can too. Not until a sales contract is signed, a vehicle has been paid for, and delivered (you took posession) is the deal consumated. I'm just amazed at the responses on this to the contrary.
 
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