125-200cc My second 165 kitted bike and it's the frankenbike...

[Blakelpd5]

Now I know to Drain the lower line.... information is good...

Cut with razor knife, then electrical tape back together

 

[wallybean]

Husky has a nice little plug they use oem.

 

[jmetteer]

Kelly drug me out after almost a month of no riding yesterday for what turned out to be a really fun 32 mile ride in the slop. I felt better on the bike than I had in a year, everything just flowed. It was a really great day.

I tested out the franken bike a couple of times and it is not short on power at all. It is electric motor smooth. A really competent vet class race bike for sure. That said it is not for me, but no surprise there as the I preferred the 125 over the 144 already. The 165 is even more everywhere, more I don't need. I am addicted to that power sag then huge rush of the 125. It just makes me grin. I rarely get off a bike and want more power, I have been known to hop on my wifes kx100 and rip around a bit.

Kelly's sweet duct tape job, he was dry at the end of the ride.

Kelly crossing a broken down bridge, the water underneath is about two and a half feet deep. He went for it and almost made it, I was a wimp and walked my bike with Kelly's help.

And that is pretty much it for photos, I was a slacker and the rain makes it tough to pull the camera out.

Later,

 

[Motosportz]

Did another 53 miles of rainy gnar yesterday. I am in love with this motor. Absolutely perfect for me and makes GOBS of power everywhere. Sweet bottom end pull (will climb anything with authority), nice mid range yanks and hold the F on top end. GOBS of smooth liquid power from bottom to top. Will up taller gears EZ and accelerates hard up long hills and shifting up which my hard running 125 would never do like this. Love it. Seriously, for me this is the perfect and ultimate motor. I am on to work on the suspension now.

 

[boisedave]

Kelly -- With Walt's 165 and the new Carb -- what do you think this bike would be like for the technical Idaho stuff [not Idaho City]. I am curious how you think it would do in the technical mountain stuff like the GPNF or up here around Stanley or Baumgartner if you know those areas. It seems like when I ride these areas I hardly EVER hit the top end on my 250. Occasionally on a climb maybe, but the stuff we ride most its just to hard to handle 40-45 horespower. So I ride on the pilot alot [where the bike is making much less power] and rely on the torque.

Just curious what you think. Thanks for doing all of this -- it makes things really interesting.

 

[Motosportz]

Kelly -- With Walt's 165 and the new Carb -- what do you think this bike would be like for the technical Idaho stuff [not Idaho City]. I am curious how you think it would do in the technical mountain stuff like the GPNF or up here around Stanley or Baumgartner if you know those areas. It seems like when I ride these areas I hardly EVER hit the top end on my 250. Occasionally on a climb maybe, but the stuff we ride most its just to hard to handle 40-45 horespower. So I ride on the pilot alot [where the bike is making much less power] and rely on the torque.

Just curious what you think. Thanks for doing all of this -- it makes things really interesting.

IMHO this is a do it all motor. Makes liquid smooth power from bottom to top. I ride my 125/165's at GPNF all the time and love it. Would be my top choice hands down for racing the Idaho City ISDE. The super flexible and usable power with no real hit or lack of pull makes it ideal for almost everything I can think of. I seriously love this motor as is. So flexible and rewarding. It is much less tiring and a "handful" than a hard running 250 yet when asked to can be every bit as fast. I was following Adams hard running 07 WR250 and Rollies newer KTM250 up some big HP hills and was many times having to back off as I was coming up on them fast. This is a GREAT do it all motor. Will now pull 6th gear wheelies with no clutch EZ. (6th feels like 3rd did) Needs geared up. Love it / can't say enough about it. I am done with the motor as I can't imagine it being better in any way for me.

Come ride it.

working on the suspension now...

http://www.cafehusky.com/threads/racetech-gold-valve-install-on-a-04-cr125.29324/

 

[boisedave]

IMHO this is a do it all motor. Makes liquid smooth power from bottom to top. I ride my 125/165's at GPNF all the time and love it. Would be my top choice hands down for racing the Idaho City ISDE. The super flexible and usable power with no real hit or lack of pull makes it ideal for almost everything I can think of. I seriously love this motor as is. So flexible and rewarding. It is much less tiring and a "handful" than a hard running 250 yet when asked to can be every bit as fast. I was following Adams hard running 07 WR250 and Rollies newer KTM250 up some big HP hills and was many times having to back off as I was coming up on them fast. This is a GREAT do it all motor. Will now pull 6th gear wheelies with no clutch EZ. (6th feels like 3rd did) Needs geared up. Love it / can't say enough about it. I am done with the motor as I can't imagine it being better in any way for me.

Come ride it.

working on the suspension now...

http://www.cafehusky.com/threads/racetech-gold-valve-install-on-a-04-cr125.29324/

Thanks Kelly -- There is a 2010 125 here for $3500... got me thinking a little....

 

[Motosportz]

here was yesterday before ride pic, WR250, KTM 250 and my 04 CR165. Did I feel outgunned? Absolutely not. traded off so others could try it and could not get my bike back quick enough.

This ride was testing a 19" Motoz Dez HT with low pressure (semi successful), Trailtech Endurance computer (worked great) and fork gold valves (successful)

 

[Ryanx13]

Where did u get parts like the front fender, number plate, grafics kit. just that type of stuff.

 

[Motosportz]

Where did u get parts like the front fender, number plate, grafics kit. just that type of stuff.

Front fender and number plate were very reasonable through my great dealer Bills in Salem Oregon. Fit great and I really like the look. Graphics are semi customs from Decal works. Expensive but fantastic quality. Seat is a seat Concepts, they are a sponsor here and there stuff is the best. I ahve three of there seats now and they are worth every penny. Motoz tires, Trailtech Endurance computer, Dome KTM 200 pipe off eBay, 165 kit from Walt / me. Gold valved the forks, well worth it. Next up is rad guards, Fastway pegs, Hammerhead shifter, and goldvalve for the shock. Fun stuff.

 

[Blakelpd5]

. Next up is rad guards, Fastway pegs, Hammerhead shifter, and goldvalve for the shock. Fun stuff.

Pimp mine out when your done! Especially the shock!

 

[Motosportz]

Pimp mine out when your done! Especially the shock!

OK after my 30 other projects.

 

[PC.]

Cool man! I'll always remember riding your last 04 cr125 that day at Jones Creek.
That was the day I realized 125's were not slow!


I rode DM on Sat with the 144 and that was the straw that broke the camels back. The 165 is going on. Ordered a .8mm gasket and head o-rings from Bill's yesterday and will install ASAP so I can dial it in before the hangover scrambles.

Where are you setting the PV arm at? Close to the top like the 125/144?
And how about ring gap? I searched, but didn't find anything 165 specific.

 

[MotoMarc36]

and goldvalve for the shock. Fun stuff.

Just a FYI I goldvalved my 00 CR250. Really liked the forks after shifting several recommendations stiffer. A little soft on bottoming but Plush! The shock was another story. The kit was listed as the same as an Ohlins application or something and had a 3-stage stack. It was awefull. I messed with it and got nowhere. In desperation and with the LorettaLynn's amnational right around the corner, I gave up and sent my shock to Drew Smith at WER. He demanded the stock piston assy back! He re-installed it with his valving. Though primarily an offroad guy, Drew delivered a setup, first try, that was WAY better than stock and WAY WAY better than the goldvalve, he really saved my hide, pride, and maybe my LIFE!!! It may have changed or work better for you but I had to share.

 

[Motosportz]

Just a FYI I goldvalved my 00 CR250. Really liked the forks after shifting several recommendations stiffer. A little soft on bottoming but Plush! The shock was another story. The kit was listed as the same as an Ohlins application or something and had a 3-stage stack. It was awefull. I messed with it and got nowhere. In desperation and with the LorettaLynn's amnational right around the corner, I gave up and sent my shock to Drew Smith at WER. He demanded the stock piston assy back! He re-installed it with his valving. Though primarily an offroad guy, Drew delivered a setup, first try, that was WAY better than stock and WAY WAY better than the goldvalve, he really saved my hide, pride, and maybe my LIFE!!! It may have changed or work better for you but I had to share.

Thanks for the info. I have not ordered it yet so maybe will just have it revalved. I am riding this bike a lot so thought i would do it myself instead of waiting a week to get it back. It is workable as is but could be far better. might just revalve it myself witht he stock stuff and the pile of shims I have here.

 

[wallybean]

Cool man! I'll always remember riding your last 04 cr125 that day at Jones Creek.
That was the day I realized 125's were not slow!


I rode DM on Sat with the 144 and that was the straw that broke the camels back. The 165 is going on. Ordered a .8mm gasket and head o-rings from Bill's yesterday and will install ASAP so I can dial it in before the hangover scrambles.

Where are you setting the PV arm at? Close to the top like the 125/144?
And how about ring gap? I searched, but didn't find anything 165 specific.

You have the 7 transfer port cylinder with the older big power valves. Adjust the arm so there is ~.040" of deflection in the upper spring keeping the valves closed. Probably about 1/3 of the way up the slot. No need to adjust further and if you do you will compromise top end with the bigger power valves(the bottom doesn't clear the exhaust port completely). You don't want the ring gap smaller than .009". I would replace the ring if you have more than ~.018" and any of the edges are sharp.

 

[PC.]

Thanks Walt!
top notch answer.

 

[MotoMarc36]

Kelly how do you feel that chassis handles in comparison to the new one?? In my memory, which admittedly is easily clouded by nostalgia and fond memories, those chassis were phenominal. I'd like to compare it to the new one, with the same fork on both.

 

[Motosportz]

Kelly how do you feel that chassis handles in comparison to the new one?? In my memory, which admittedly is easily clouded by nostalgia and fond memories, those chassis were phenominal. I'd like to compare it to the new one, with the same fork on both.

Well they are both still 125 bikes so VERY good. I do feel the new ones are more planted and a little more accurate but it might be in some part due to the forks. I LOVE the 09 and up but these are really right there as well giving a little bit up but not much. I do think the older frames are better built and don't seem to have all the little issues the new ones do with broken engine mounts etc. I'll call it a near toss up with the 09 and up being slightly better for my needs and uses.

 

[krieg]

I think that pipe is half way through digesting a wombat.

HEY! HEY! Don't be dissing on Hodaka here young man!