• 4 Stroke Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Italy - About 1989 to 2014
     TE = 4st Enduro & TC = 4st Cross

  • Hi everyone,

    As you all know, Coffee (Dean) passed away a couple of years ago. I am Dean's ex-wife's husband and happen to have spent my career in tech. Over the years, I occasionally helped Dean with various tech issues.

    When he passed, I worked with his kids to gather the necessary credentials to keep this site running. Since then (and for however long they worked with Coffee), Woodschick and Dirtdame have been maintaining the site and covering the costs. Without their hard work and financial support, CafeHusky would have been lost.

    Over the past couple of weeks, I’ve been working to migrate the site to a free cloud compute instance so that Woodschick and Dirtdame no longer have to fund it. At the same time, I’ve updated the site to a current version of XenForo (the discussion software it runs on). The previous version was outdated and no longer supported.

    Unfortunately, the new software version doesn’t support importing the old site’s styles, so for now, you’ll see the XenForo default style. This may change over time.

    Coffee didn’t document the work he did on the site, so I’ve been digging through the old setup to understand how everything was running. There may still be things I’ve missed. One known issue is that email functionality is not yet working on the new site, but I hope to resolve this over time.

    Thanks for your patience and support!

Long Read; New TE 450, FAIL, Warranty? Searched.

If you have the fuel pump's wiring disconnected and turn the key on and it attempts to cycle the relay and circuit it creates a "fail" that will record in Ibeat- did for me... but I didn't have a dash at the time... to tell you about "fail" on the dash... So I guess I'd check the fuel pump loom connectors and ensure they have a good connection- and ensure the connectors positively "click"

Moving the tank around might have made an Intermittent bad connection correct itself. But this does not perfectly explain all the factors it seams either as to what and how this is occurring.Unless whoever connected all the electrical connectors on your bike originally had really weak fingers and was hard of hearing.. I'd keep checking all the connectors in that area- to include the PU Resistor, "tip over" resistor, Fuel pump connectors, MASQ connector, etc
 
Dont think Fuel Pump wiring will show "Fail" . The Tilt Sensor plug has a resistor soldered across two pins (under the heat shrink) .
make sure one of the "legs" on the resistor not broken ?
 
Update

I think it might have been a plug that plugsi.to what I think is the ECM/ECU, not sure of the designation. I unplugged and plugged multiple time to make sure it was securely fastened, and the code hasn't come back. It has lasted the longest so far, so I thi k this was the problem.
 
hotducati said:
what a pos the dash is on this bike. Mine clouded up the first time i took it in the rain. what a joke. but hey, who needs it anyways. As for service.....i do my own work. Thank God, i would not wanna go through the time waiting at the dealer for them to replace every part on the bike until its fixed.
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Mine had some condensation in it when I got it, too. It dried up and I haven't seen it since. Hall's said it's pretty common.
 
I am a proponent of working on you own bike, but I understand that fuel injection has made using local shops more of a necessity than when we had carbs. I have not had good luck working with MotoForza, but I have had a good experience with another San Diego area Husky shop, GP Motorcycles.

I purchased my Husky from MotoForza and they had suggested it should be powered up prior to use. I let them do the work. The bike ran poorly and I brought it back to them. They messed with the mapping and gave it back. The bike still ran poorly. It turns out that the throttle body was installed wrong and the mapping MotoForza installed was extremely lean, but MotoForza did not diagnose this. They even admitted to not being very knowledgable about the ibeat software. GP caught the issues right away and fixed the bike.

Also, when I tried to order parts through MotoForza they did not return may calls. All other Husky shops I've dealt with have been very responsisve (i.e. GP and shops via the net).

Sorry to bag on a Husky dealer as I know that is taboo, but I recommend using another shop.
 
Jjg76, thanks for your story and advice. I think its important to discuss your experience with a dealer, so long as we can seperate our emotions from the info we provide. That's often difficult for me, but not in this situation.

I didn't plan on any updates yet, but since im here... I neverrecieved a call back from moto forza, and I know they could have at least made a customer curtousy call to let me know what's going on. I called Husqvarnas customer service number, they apologized to me saying that this definitely should not have been my experience. Told me they would try and help, asked for Moto Forza's number, needless to say, I got a call in less than 24 hrs from moto forza asking for me to bring the bike in today, they think they know what's goin g on. The Husky rep said he would try to get to the bottom of it, and thanks to them!
 
Latest update.

I got an email today from Moto Forza 6/1/2011, Balz has informed me that Husqvarna has approved the replacement for my wiring harness. Just waiting for the harness, and then I'm taking it in. My experience with Moto Forza, has been good so far, I thought I could have been more informed along the way, but they have stood by me in regards to keeping everything under warranty, and Husqvarna is following through with the warranty too. I will let everyone know how everything goes with the new harness.
 
Latest update:

About 3 weeks ago, I took the bike in, Motor Forza replaced the wiring harness under warranty. The bike hasn't had any issues. So that's the result, everything worked, thanks Ballz, I will definitely consider purchasing from him again. Thanks Husqvarna USA for approving the repair.
 
I have the same bike '10TE450 that had the same fault. It also received a new wiring loom under warranty. So far so good with another 100kms on it. I have heard of other bikes in Oz with "FAIL" remaing on display, along with others in threads in this forum. My new wiring loom only looks to be more insulated / sturdier.
 
Well I have been gone for a while, but left this thread hanging. I'm tempted to get another Husky and I am back. I'll make a long story short on the last bike.

After they got the "FAIL" to go away on the dash, and having the bike for what seemed to be a very long time, I was riding not long after and I her a clunk which I thought was a large stick or rock hitting underneath the bike at first. I took it into the shop and they said rod bolt backed out and damaged some stuff inside obviously. They took a couple weeks for Husqvarna to come back and say they would cover the parts, but I would have to foot the rebuild labor costs, took a little over a month because we were waiting for parts apparently.

I got the bike back and it would no longer start with the electric start, only after kicking it over a few times would I be able to get it started. It misfired and died on me at about 4500 rpm, and I called and told them about this and they told me it could be the gas, bring it back in. The tech said man this sucks you really got a lemon, really sorry about that. I picked the bike up the next day after they said they can't seem to find anything wrong with it.

I asked if the owner would consider letting me get another bike and squash the deal on the lemon bike, the guy I asked said he would talk to him and find out for me. Never got a call back. The bike sat in my garage for over a month and I decided to get some advice from an attorney. With a letter from him including my documentation, BMW sent me a check for the bike plus tax and license fees. I returned the bike, all withen 2 weeks of talking to the attorney. BMW also paid for the attorney fee as well.

Anyway that is the conclusion of this whole thing.
 
How would you feel if you were trying to help someone and it's what you do every day - and that person says 'Well I have heard that .. " blah blah blah or 'I saw it on the internets!' ... People take pride in their work. Especially if they do it on a daily basis. They probably have encountered it all but just very busy.

Personally, I hate when someone tries to tell me they know of a better solution or work around when I'm well aware of it. Not saying anyone is at fault. But let the guys who you are paying do the job. As for warranty - it does state in manual once it goes into power up mode, warranty is void. I would have no tried to set it back personally and just let them know your issue and go from there.
 
henson802 said:
How would you feel if you were trying to help someone and it's what you do every day - and that person says 'Well I have heard that .. " blah blah blah or 'I saw it on the internets!' ... People take pride in their work. Especially if they do it on a daily basis. They probably have encountered it all but just very busy.

Personally, I hate when someone tries to tell me they know of a better solution or work around when I'm well aware of it. Not saying anyone is at fault. But let the guys who you are paying do the job. As for warranty - it does state in manual once it goes into power up mode, warranty is void. I would have no tried to set it back personally and just let them know your issue and go from there.
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First and foremost, when I bought the bike, I was asked if I wanted to power up at no cost. I asked would it affect the warranty and was told absolutely not. Just a tid bit of info on that.

No one has said anything about not letting anyone do their job, nor how to do their job lol. It's funny you come with what seems as hostility, but I don't want to read into something when I can't here inflection to actually know.

You buy a bike brand new and put 50 miles on it in then let the dealership have the bike for the next 3 remaining months while your making payments for the bike and insurance. Everytime you take it in, they tell you we can't find anything wrong with it, for your info, after the rod bolt backed out and BMW analyzed everything including oil, they concluded that the parts were defective, at no fault of mine.

Busy or not I was respectful with them and the tech was respectful to me, which I might add sympathized with my situation 100%.

By the way I had an issue once with my car, and did some reading on the internet about what I was experiencing. I came across a group as a collective whole, that was experiencing the exact same problem. I checked with the Lexus dealership anyway, and the tech a friend of mine, told me don't read the internet no one knows anything on the internet, just let us do our job. I said I was going to hold off. I went ahead with the collective group and tried what was suggested and voila, fixed, cost was $0 to me; by the way, quoted by one of the forum members in that whole was a response from a Toyota engineer who was involved with the development of that engine, and was also the one that suggested the fix. Hmm? Maybe rethink the internet a bit, and who might be using it too. You might be able to learn something.
 
SoCalHusky said:
So I've searched the forums already. I purchased the 2010 TE450 3 weeks ago from Moto Forza in Escondido, CA. I did my break-in, and powered up. Bike ran fine for about 50 miles, then got the sel1 sel2 FAIL. Bike seemed to run fine. I decided to go back to restricted to see if maybe the lambda resistor plug was at fault. Still had the code, but within about 5 minutes of riding the code went to just reading FAIL.

I took it into Moto Forza and asked them to check it out for me. I called them the next day to see how things were going, and I spoke to Chris. He said this was because it needed to be powered up, and they would reset codes, and the code would go away once that was done. I told him I had already done the power up, and reversed it to see if it was the lambda plug. He said I had to have the TPS and a couple of other things handled with the laptop to be powered up right, or else it can throw the code.

I said I figured this was a warranty thing, and if he was going to just power it back up for now 90.00, I would do it and bring it back to be re-diagnosed. He said once you power it up the warranty is gone. I told him, Balz told me I had a warranty, and I should power it up before it left Moto Forza for $80.00. He powered it back up at no cost to me.

Next day no call from them, so I call to see how it's going. Said he has to wait for a call from Husky to see what to do, but he thinks it's the dash and I can come pick it up and ride it until they here from Husky. Day 4, I go pick it up, but am told by Balz the owner it wasn't the dash, because they tested another one on it, but it runs good, and we haven't heard from Husky yet. I mentioned the water temp sensor in the beginning, and was told he works on these things 40 hours a week, he doesn't care what the forums say.

Basically, not sure if this is the normal approach to get warranty work done, and if so, why didn't the code tell them the problem? I currently have FAIL on right side of dash that won't go away, yet they say its good to ride. I also called them today, and left another message, but they didn't return the call. Would they here from Husqvarna within this amount of time? 6 business days since the attempted diagnosis. Am I being impatient, and should I chill, or keep trying to see where things are at. Also never got an owners manual or any warranty info from them.

Thanks,
SoCalHusky
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Bull...powering up reduces the warranty from 6 months to 3 months...call Husky, I did...they don't like to answer Qs too, say to talk with the dealer, but I kept pushing it...
 
I was told by a dealer that in the USA, Husky TE models come with a 6 month warranty from the factory. If the TE model is powered up, the warranty reverts to the 30 day competition warranty that the dirt-only models carry..
 
My manual says if modified warranty no good, also has several other loopholes on service.
All the other manufacturers make those same exceptions. It really boils down to the dealer,
Some put the customer first and "ignore things like the power up and other mods".
Makes it nice if you have a dealer that places real value on their customers.
I have always done all my own work, the 511 is the first bike I have let someone else monkey with
(suspension) (mapping). I do buy my parts through trusted dealers, instead of cheaper Internet vendors,
To have the relationship with them to keep their support and help them make a living.
Seems to me that Husqvarna has more quality dealerships percentage wise than other brands.
 
The bottom line for me was that the dealer assured me that my warranty was good regardless of the power up. Express warranty by the dealer. This actually had nothing to do with the buy back of the bike. I'm not trying to say the warranty isn't void after the power up, but if your dealer gives you a warranty on top of what the manufacturer does to sell a bike, then it is a valid warranty, and I believe BMW agreed.

BMW North America was the one who came through and honored the CA lemon law. The bike broke in less than 30 days regardless. The shop had the bike for 3 finance and insurance payments, I had the bike off and on, but not nearly as long as the dealership and when I did have it it sat not running in my garage. A law suit was never filed, just a letter about the situation with documentation up to that point. I was actually impressed with how well it went, along with the attorney, he said they were actually a great company and followed through a lot easier that the Japanese companies would have ever done.

With that said, I thought I needed to follow up and let people know the end result of what happened in the past, but didn't really want to cause any rehashing in an old thread.

Take care.
 
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