• Hi everyone,

    As you all know, Coffee (Dean) passed away a couple of years ago. I am Dean's ex-wife's husband and happen to have spent my career in tech. Over the years, I occasionally helped Dean with various tech issues.

    When he passed, I worked with his kids to gather the necessary credentials to keep this site running. Since then (and for however long they worked with Coffee), Woodschick and Dirtdame have been maintaining the site and covering the costs. Without their hard work and financial support, CafeHusky would have been lost.

    Over the past couple of weeks, I’ve been working to migrate the site to a free cloud compute instance so that Woodschick and Dirtdame no longer have to fund it. At the same time, I’ve updated the site to a current version of XenForo (the discussion software it runs on). The previous version was outdated and no longer supported.

    Unfortunately, the new software version doesn’t support importing the old site’s styles, so for now, you’ll see the XenForo default style. This may change over time.

    Coffee didn’t document the work he did on the site, so I’ve been digging through the old setup to understand how everything was running. There may still be things I’ve missed. One known issue is that email functionality is not yet working on the new site, but I hope to resolve this over time.

    Thanks for your patience and support!

KYB Forks for 2010

T

twowheels

Husqvarna
AA Class
A little late night surfing on the official Husky site suggests that the CR125 (and others I assume) will be equipped with Kayaba's AOS forks (which Yamaha spec'd in 2005) not the minty mint SSS forks now found on the blue bikes (and CRF450s).

Not having ridden the Zoke 50s I can't make a judgment, but it would appear on paper that while Husky may have improved the forks they stopped one notch short when they went to KYB.

Thoughts?
 
The SSS forks were the only reason I was going to wait for the 2010 but couldnt get it confirmed other then to speculate that the TC and TXC would get the SSS and the TE would get the AOSS forks. I bought an 09 at a good price and if I didnt miss out on the SSS forks I am not one bit disapointed I bought the 09.
 
I have an 06' YZ with the SSS forks. They've been revalved and resprung for my weight and riding style. I'm not a fan! They deflect off everything and have the harshest initial stroke I've ever experienced. The revalve did help, but did not cure my issues. Maybe another tuner could make me like them :excuseme:

Funny thing is, I did not know how bad they sucked for trail riding until getting a Husky with the 50mm Zukes. They're night and day better in the woods.... by a country mile. Hopefully Husky will different valving than Yamaha did on their's cause the MX spec KYB's and me don't get along.
 
There is nothing wrong with the 50mm TC forks on the 09 TC/TXCs.

A buddy of mine owns a big suspension shop in Toronto and makes no bones about the fact he is a Euro bike hater, even admits that the Zokes are excellent forks when valved correctly.
 
I was under the impression that the TC gets SSS and the TE/WR get the AOS forks but have never found anything to prove that. The TXC I am hoping will get the SSS but who knows. I think the only way we will know for sure is when they get here. The Zokes are good forks in my opinion as well. I have read a bunch of press on the SSS forks but rode a couple of '08 YZ 250's and was just thinking they were just O.K. Hard to tell though when it is not your bike.
 
2010 forks (for Europe, assume US is the same?) are as follows:

All MX bikes: 48mm Kayaba AOS

Enduro:
WR125 & TE310 -50mm Marzocchi
All others: 48mm Kayaba open cartridge (not AOS)

TXC: We don't get but believe them to be AOS

Dave
 
If these KYB forks are anything like the ones that came on Yamaha's in 2005 they are some of the worst forks for offroad riding. I HATED those forks. They could not be made to work in roots/rocks.
 
this will make a huge decision on which bike I will race next year,calling DREW SMITH****************************************!! are the standard forks on the new TE ok to work with or should one opt for the TXC version???
 
Honestly, if we are getting the cheapy KYBs, I would just as soon have the 50mm TC Zokes. I know they can work well.
 
ScottyR;49700 said:
Honestly, if we are getting the cheapy KYBs, I would just as soon have the 50mm TC Zokes. I know they can work well.
Click to expand...


I agree..initially mine were pretty harsh...but


I found that just by adjusting the air volume(dropping the oil height 25cc's each leg) they work well ....maybe not perfect...but reasonably good
 
A little more digging

Husky Sport;48208 said:
2010 forks (for Europe, assume US is the same?) are as follows:

All MX bikes: 48mm Kayaba AOS

Enduro:
WR125 & TE310 -50mm Marzocchi
All others: 48mm Kayaba open cartridge (not AOS)

TXC: We don't get but believe them to be AOS

Dave
Click to expand...

The Husky web site lists the KYB fork on the WR250 as having a 28mm piston. This may refer to either the compression or rebound piston - compression likely - which points to about 2002 Yamaha/Kawasaki fitment. That's not all bad - there are lots of guys out there that can make these work.

All of the references to the closed chamber forks are AOS - also known as POS. That particular set-up lasted one year on the blue bikes. It makes me wonder if you couldn't buy the internals of a 2006+ YZ fork and upgrade to SSS though. I'm using mine (SSS) for hare scrambles in Michigan and have had decent success tuning them for the roots and whooped out trail we see.

Finally, the TXC 250 on the web-site shows an old "red-head" engine, but the Dirt Bike photo shows the new powerplant. Hmmm.
 
I was looking at the brochure last night on Hall's site and can't figure out why the ground clearance would be different between the TE/TXC. I would think the forks would be the same length between open chamber and AOS.

TE 250 Min. Ground clearance is 11.4 inches, seat height of 37.4
TXC 250 is 11.8 inches with a seat height of 37.9

TC 250 says 12.8 inches with a seat height of 38.8 (Has a 19 inch rear wheel)
 
Well if the KYB's on the Txc's are the type that we saw on 03-04 YZ, 03-05 KX, and that were on the Honda CR125 for ever, than life would not be bad at all. Those forks have been around a while and although they are old, they can be made to work in a variety of terrian. But I dont understand why Husky would go with old technology so I question whether this info is correct. Also it is strange that they would go from a TC to an OC on the TXC models.
 
suspension question

after building a state of the art motor for 10, why would they put old school forks on it ?? wonder if it was to meet a price point. perhaps huskyrips can answer this one....:doh::doh::doh:
 
Well one plus on the OC kyb's is that I already have complete specs and stacks for setting up those forks for roots and rocks. I have used the stacks on 3 different bikes now and they worked well on all of them.
 
Husky Sport;50199 said:
They haven't! TXC has the AOS closed cartridge fork.

Dave
Click to expand...

I dont know......this is the problem with husky and other europe brands. you never know what your getting, its like you have to wait to open the crate to see what you have. Their press release on info sucks!!
 
I have ridden both versions on YZ's with LT-Racing revalves and both were excellent in the woods. Shotgunscott on here has two YZ's, 05-07 with the LT-Racing valving and they are VERY nice. I have ridden 50mm zokes on TXC 250 and 450 that are excellent. (my LTR TXC450 was awesome). Just this weekend I rode my minty 94 WXC-250 with the preload adjustable Showa forks, they worked great, better than my buddies LTR revalved 45mm zokes!!! they can all be made to work good.
 
ZipTy TC250 in SC - Italian Legs

Latest Cycle News (9/23, p11) shows Graffunder's TC250 riding on Marzocchi forks ... if you believe the stickers on the upper legs. The fork caps sure look Italian. I realize Knight rides with WP on his Kawasaki, but I would have thought that Ty Davis would be more familiar with the KYBs ... and that is what's slated for the new bikes right?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top