Husqvarna Wr125 Vs Husqvarna Te 250/310? Help!

[Lime]

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I really don’t know where to post this. If it is the wrong place for my questions I hope a moderator can move it to the right place.

I sold my Husqvarna WR 250 a while ago and now I am searching for a new bike.

My Husqvarna had more than enough power anywhere for a small 65 kg dude like me. It had probably been wiser to buy a 125cc or a 250F in the first place. Power wise, both should be easier to use than my old 250 2 stroke.

I felt that I had a hard time keeping a fast pace (by my standards) for a long time with Husqvarnan, I became very tired quickly if I tried to drive hard. I drove more “calmly” than a could drive for 2-2.5 hours whit out being worn out.

Was it the power curve that tired me out? Or was it the 108kg the Husqvarnan weight? Which made it hard for me? It was a long time ago I test drove the smaller bikes. The only comparison I have in "modern" time is a KTM 125cc I tried last summer. It was like a moped compared to my 250cc.

In a bike magazine from 2006 they weigh a different Husqvarnas. WR 250: 108kg. WR 125: 101kg. TE 250 116kg. TE 250 is 8kg heavier than WR 250! If you bought one, will it worn me out fast as me previous WR 250? Because it is so much heavier? Or will the smoother power curve to do that I can run longer at a faster pace?

The best would probably be a Husqvarna WR 125, it is more economical. But the TE 250 is a lot easier to find.

The big question is really why did I get tired? Was it the weight or the power from the WR 250?

 

[Slowpoke]

There's no easy answer as to why you got tired - there's a lot of factors at play or that could be at play:
The bike
Your state of physical fitness
Your basic health
Skill level
etc.
etc.
Any one of these or a combo of all of the above?

 

[Lime]

My fitness and health is god. I run a few days a week so my basic stamina is god. The only problem is I lack some strength in my arms. Because it much more fun to run and to go to the (boring) gym

The problem is I am a bit of a novice when it comes to enduro. It is a combination of I am not so god at handling the bike and my driving skills are not the best yet. So I want to buy the Husqvarna that’s the easiest for me handle in tight tracks.

 

[Slowpoke]

OK- it seems to me that the main reason you're getting tired is likely due to skill level & that you might be trying to ride faster than your skill currently allows. For long events such as enduros, that will be your worst enemy.

It takes several years to get really competent on a dirt bike & that competence includes knowing when to give'r and when to relax, when to use energy and when to conserve.
To help out a bit I'd suggest road or mountain biking and alpine skiing and upper body weight training as additional training, instead of running as you'll gain more strength in the muscles you need to ride.
Do all your riding standing up in a neutral balanced attack position with a very light grip on the bars & ride at a speed that you can stay in that position for 2-3 hours straight. Try riding an enduro at a nice easy pace, as if you're doing a light fun trail ride- I'll bet you do better than you currently are........Also, if you haven't already, take some riding courses, as they'll teach you a lot & then practice what they teach you.

Some other things to look at: have your suspension set up properly so the bike doesn't beat you up.
A steering damper can make it a lot easier to relax your hold on the bars.
A TE250 will be a lot easier to ride for several hours than a WR250 2T, especially for a novice.

Compared to 6 years ago, I ride twice as fast offroad & use 1/3rd of the energy I used to, for a given section.

 

[water racer]

Wr125 is one of the easiest and fun bikes to ride, but some of the later models are not so easy to get to run right. Takes less effort than even my TC250 which is lighter than TE.
GP

 

[Lime]

A TE250 will be a lot easier to ride for several hours than a WR250 2T, especially for a novice.

But what if we compare a WR 125 to a TE 250. What would be the easiest to ride for a novice?

 

[Motosportz]

But what if we compare a WR 125 to a TE 250. What would be the easiest to ride for a novice?

Wr125, super light feeling, nice motor that will do everything but not be hard to manage. That said the 125 can take more setup and care than some novices care to do. The TE250 will be much more turn the key on and ride.

 

[Fireflyte]

I have all trhee bikes and the WR 250 has more power so it will tire you out faster. Your skill and what shape you are in will determine how fast you will tire out. I ride my TE250 the most because I can go all day on it and I think I am just as fast on it as the other 2 bikes. It seems to hook up better and has a more even power band than the 2 strokes and has a plate to boot. Maintanence on a 2 stroke is easier and less costly but the 4 stroke has othr advantages. When all is said and done I love them all but prefer the TE250.

 

[Lime]

So TE 250 is a better choice than a WR 125 ...

What if we compared the Husqvarna TE 250 whit a Husaberg FE 390 then?

A small 4 stroke = Very revy = High maintenance. In short: It feels like things go wrong much easier in the engine.

A Husaberg FE 390 would be a little more versatile than a TE 250. And the magasin says it feels like riding a 250cc 4 stroke.

But dirt roads and fire roads is secondary. I have a KTM 640 Adventure that I use for that.

I will mostly use the bike for training and possible competitionon the motortrack.

Does “Café Husky” still recommends a TE 250?

 

[Lime]

I just want to share some of my thoughts…

And I almost forgot the TE 310!

So TE 250 ore a TE 310? Should I change brand completely and buy a Husaberg 390?

The Husaberg might be a bit expensive. I can find a nice TE 250/310 from 2008 for my money. The WR 125 tend to be rather cheap if I could find one in god
condition. As new as possible. I want the new frame so 2009 (?) >.

I don’t want to spanner to much. It seems like the WR 125 can be a lot of fiddling whit the carburetor/power valve. The TE 250/310 have FI, and that requires zero work for me. I like that

Even if everything works well on a endure bike it is a lot of maintenance work!

But the money is another side of the coin. I am not a millionaire so I don’t want to spend a fortune on woods riding. I ride approximately 40h a season so I don’t have to change piston every year. But if it is a 4 stroke, and it grenades... But the TE 250/310 (new and old engine) seems to be reliable.

 

[dirtrider0129]

I was sort of in the same boat as you. I bought a gasgas EC250, but never found myself using using it to its full ability. I traded it for my current TE 250 (2004) and love the change. I'm about 160 lbs (72 kg) and think its the perfect amount of power, its the happy medium that I was always searching for with my gasgas. I recently did a 100 mile dual sport (80 trail miles, 20 road) and it never really became tiresome to ride (and pickup when I dropped it), with the small exception that the current suspension set up is for a 210 lb (96 kg) rider! need to get that sorted...

 

[R_Little]

I own both the TE250 and the Wr125 and the Wr250 for that matter.

I can go fast much longer on the 125.

The TE is just not reliable enough to race...I race the 125 in rocks and the Wr250 in sand.

 

[Lime]

I own both the TE250 and the Wr125 and the Wr250 for that matter.

I can go fast much longer on the 125.

The TE is just not reliable enough to race...I race the 125 in rocks and the Wr250 in sand.

Strange. Everywhere you look at this forum people say that the TE 250/310 is "puch the button and ride" and the WR 125 demands a bit of fiddeling to work.

I gues your TE 250 is worn out...

Personaly I dont realy know what bike to buy yet. I am thinking of going back to school in the next couple of years so then i dont want a costly high maintinance machin when i studie. So the WR 125 would be the bike to buy. If i am intend to keep it for a couple of years.

But a TE 310 apears to be easier to live whit if it does not break down.

 

[R-J van Hulst]

I stepped back from a 250 2 stroke to a 125 2 stroke

I am quicker on the 125 than on the 250 overall on a ride

the biggest difference is the attack on the stamina the 250 would slap me to death after 3 hours ride its just the extra pull on the arms and the few extra kilos to man-oeuvre in the technical stuff.

the 125 is not so underpowered but you need to master it better to do the same things in tricky situations (the power of the 250 forgive the small mistakes easier) big mistakes brings you equally in much bigger problems with a 250.

the 125 gives for sure more smile factor and the smile does last longer 6 hours and i am still up to speed while some of my driving buddies on the 450 4t are huffing and puffing I would only loose it to them on the loose sand and open roads (the 125 is not a match for those bikes in these conditions)

Robert-Jan

 

[ghte]

Forget the 390, they have a terrible nose down feel and the centralisation effort only feels noticable on the 570. Cw the th3 the 250 or 310 it is a big bike.
Given your weight I would suggest the 250 TE. it is an effortless ride, needs less rider imput.

 

[lankydoug]

My vote is for the 125. There is enough info here to help you sort the jetting which is about the only issue. 125s are a blast to ride and in the future when you want more power you can 144 kit it on a top end freshen up.

 

[R-J van Hulst]

My vote is for the 125. There is enough info here to help you sort the jetting which is about the only issue. 125s are a blast to ride and in the future when you want more power you can 144 kit it on a top end freshen up.

or a 165 cc kit

Robert-Jan

 

[Lime]

I talk to my self a lot and i have changed my opinion several times, i gues i am god at convincing my self

I thing i am going for the WR 125 becaus it is the cheapest bike to use over a race season . The money is a heavy argument in trublesome times like this.

I have ruled out the TE 250 becaus it seems to be the same bike as the TE 310. But you could trailride the 310 it some times whitout rewing the hell out of it. So if i hade the monney i would buy a 310. But i don´t.

The Husaberg is cool 390 but it is based on a 450 and I thing it is to big for me.

 

[earl61]

Lime,I'm in the same boat you are rode a Suzuki rm 250 & rm125 for years bought a 2010 TXC 250 loved the chassis but the motor felt soft. But you could ride it all day fast. That being said I, have sold all my bikes thinking of buying CR 125 for simplicity but having trouble pulling the triger,still trying to decide if I,can live with a 125-144 only.

 

[R-J van Hulst]

Lime,I'm in the same boat you are rode a Suzuki rm 250 & rm125 for years bought a 2010 TXC 250 loved the chassis but the motor felt soft. But you could ride it all day fast. That being said I, have sold all my bikes thinking of buying CR 125 for simplicity but having trouble pulling the triger,still trying to decide if I,can live with a 125-144 only.

There is a 165 cc option that is probably the top package availible

handeling of a 125 2 stroke but the extra grunt for the demanding moments.

have a look in the newsroom section about this kit

Robert-Jan

 

[Lime]

I am just updating you guys one how things are in my world The riding season starts soon!

I have two different WR 125 to chose from. I am going to watch one of them next week.

At the same time there is a nice TE 250 not far from me….

I’m am just finished whit adjusting my carburetor one my KTM 640 Adventure. And that is not the easiest job. It is hard to get the carburetor off/put-it-back-in and my head is getting dizzy by all the petrol fumes. And my mind wanders of and starts thinking of buying a 4 stroke whit fuel injection. Then you don´t have do fiddling whit the carburetor all the time because the weather is changing.

But then I start to look in the parts-catalogue and I realize what a 4 stroke piston cost Then my mind wanders back to the WR 125.

So maybe when I sit here the next Sunday I might be posting a picture of me new bike