ECU Flash and FMF pipe

[teuchter]

Apologies for thread hijack though subject is related.

I already have JD tuner so don't want to buy PCV. How about the Flash#3 + JD tuner combo? Does that approach PCV performance?

My bike has enough power for me, just want to further prevent flameouts and prevent the engine running lean for reliability

 

[Tinken]

There are no maps available for the TXC's

 

[danny318]

Apologies for thread hijack though subject is related.

I already have JD tuner so don't want to buy PCV. How about the Flash#3 + JD tuner combo? Does that approach PCV performance?

My bike has enough power for me, just want to further prevent flameouts and prevent the engine running lean for reliability

map3 will give you a good base to start on and then can fine tune with the JD. doesnt need much adjustment though after map3 is loaded.

 

[jerbear610]

Apologies for thread hijack though subject is related.

I already have JD tuner so don't want to buy PCV. How about the Flash#3 + JD tuner combo? Does that approach PCV performance?

My bike has enough power for me, just want to further prevent flameouts and prevent the engine running lean for reliability

That is a very good question. IMO, the JD Tuner gives the most bang for the buck as far as power increase. I mean after you install
the JD Tuner and go for a ride it's like "Holy Shit Batman" I think we're on to something.If you could get that power increase and have no more flameouts that would be the ticket. I just couldn't seem to shake the dreaded flame outs with the JD. I know there's a lot of guys who have got it dialed in with the JD and that's why I'm typing this because of all the power upgrades available I think the JD was probably the most noticeable. The PCV is great too but more for just not having to ever worry about stalling on some cliff where it's go or die ......Nothing worse than flaming out at the worst possible moment and it never seemed to fail to do so.

 

[motomanic]

Question we all want answered now , has anyone kept the JD after map3# and tuned it for more improvement, if so what have you set it at?

 

[Rearwheelin]

Talk don't mean much to me , let's take a drive to Bakersfield and do dyno runs with all these hop up gizmos on the same dallor and calculate the biggest bang for the buck !

 

[Caiman]

If someone wants to donate $10-15k, I'll buy every exhaust variation available, TC cams, PCV/AT, JD tuner and go book my local dyno place for a week :P

It would be nice to get some real, comparable numbers on; the bike as delivered from the dealer, race map plug, map#3, TC airbox, TC cams, head ported+polished, JD tuned properly, PCV dyno tuned, PCV+AT self tuned, PCV downloaded maps and also slip on and full system exhausts with and without PCV tunes. Then once you find the best of each, combine the best of the lot!

 

[Rearwheelin]

Apologies for thread hijack though subject is related.

I already have JD tuner so don't want to buy PCV. How about the Flash#3 + JD tuner combo? Does that approach PCV performance?

My bike has enough power for me, just want to further prevent flameouts and prevent the engine running lean for reliability

what are your JD settings ?

 

[Caiman]

Does that approach PCV performance?

Compared to the PCV, the JD tuner is rather crude,yet still very effective. For the price difference the JD is great bang for your buck. The beauty of the PCV (or the Bazzaz unit for that matter) is with a proper dyno tune they can be mapped at every throttle position, for every RPM for your specific bike setup (pipe, airbox etc) and location (fuel type, altitude, weather etc), which delivers a much better overall tune compared to the 5 or 6 gross changes the JD makes. With a proper tune you get much improved useability and rideability in the lower rev's, at the varying throttle positions that you actually use days in day out, big dyno numbers are great but how often do you spend at 100% WOT?

Down here to pick up a PCV and get a dyno tune you're looking in the region of $800-900, the JD and some crowd sourced guesstimate settings is $200, hence it's popularity.

 

[gillies]

Like the OP, I tried the Zipty ECU reflash, but it didn't take on my bike. I really don't understand the lack of respect for the JD though. It was the shit on this board two years ago, and mine works just fine. The JD, combined with the FMF with quiet insert works excellent on my bike. NO flameouts - period. I'm sitting in Ouray, CO as I write this after spending the last two days riding the passes around here. Went from sea level riding at home in Phoenix, spent a few minutes adjusting the JD for 13k elevation, and the bike ran great. Again, NO flameouts chugging up stuff all day. Why did I try the ECU reflash? I liked the idea of a stock map that worked. No go for me.

 

[Rearwheelin]

I really don't understand the lack of respect for the JD . It was the shit on this board two years ago, and mine works just fine. The JD, combined with the FMF with quiet insert works excellent on my bike. NO flameouts - period.

I'm sitting in Ouray, CO as I write this after spending the last two days riding the passes around here. Went from sea level riding at home in Phoenix, spent a few minutes adjusting the JD for 13k elevation, and the bike ran great. Again, NO flameouts chugging up stuff all day.

, try dialing a PCV at 13k

Like the OP, I tried the Zipty ECU reflash, but it didn't take on my bike. Why did I try the ECU reflash? I liked the idea of a stock map that worked. No go for me.

Whats the charge if it doesn't stick ? ... Good thing its not a totally necessary evil

 

[Caiman]

Wonder what a MOTEC system would set ya back.....

Overkill much lol

 

[gillies]

No charge from Zipty. I did pay some shipping, though. Tinken has been up front about the fact that not all ECUs will take the reflash, so no hard feelings there. I have, however, found the JD to be entirely serviceable. Its pretty darn easy to play with, and, as I've said, the JD eliminated all flameouts for me and made a HUGE improvement in power.

 

[Tinken]

, try dialing a PCV at 13k

Autotune.

Whats the charge if it doesn't stick ? ... Good thing its not a totally necessary evil

Shipping, no charge for the attempt to re-flash.

We no longer accept MY11 TE449 ecu's. I have not been able to re-flash an ecu from this year. My theory is that Husqvarna used non-flashable BMW ecu during initial production. Interestingly I can reflash a MY11 511, but even some of these are locked.

 

[Rearwheelin]

Autotune.

Brain and fingers , less wires. .......

Have we found out if the re-flash advances timing ? Better first 10% throttle response and a stronger top end would be worth it. And can we have it done without convicting ourselves in a court of law ?

 

[Caiman]

I have not been able to re-flash an ecu from this year. My theory is that Husqvarna used non-flashable BMW ecu during initial production.

I wonder if visiting a BMW dealer would reap results if they used left over G450x ECU's *shrug* It'd be an interesting experiment to see if a 449/511 ECU worked in a G450x and vice versa.

 

[Tinken]

I have a BMW ecu up for sale on ZipTy, funny thing is that it has map#3 already loaded on it.

 

[Caiman]

Next locked ECU you find try and cosy up to a BMW dealer with a g450x

 

[teuchter]

what are your JD settings ?

Basically the recommended settings from the JD tuner box.

The riding I do is most technical tight single trail so I'm more concerned with torque and preventing flame outs than big power. My engine does occasionally still cut out while jumping a big log and I can't say if it's me or the bike, since this is the first bike I've ridden in this type of terrain.

 

[teuchter]

There are no maps available for the TXC's

How are the '11 TE449 ECU and '11 TXC449 ECU different? I was under the impression the engines and ECUs were identical and only the TC was different?