• 4 Stroke Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Italy - About 1989 to 2014
    TE = 4st Enduro & TC = 4st Cross

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Demo bikes?

Ok $4,300 (plus dealer fee/tax?) is a fair price for a used 2012 TC449 with 25hrs. It's not what I would call a good deal. The TC is less desirable to most because of gearing. I would try to get the price down if you want this bike. It's harder for them to sell the TC's, so I would play hardball. Find a problem, focus on the "cosmetic issues" and offer $3,500. There are lots of good deals out there so don't get hung up on one bike.
 
The other fees are dealer prep, freight, and "Doc" fees. These fees are also known as dealer profit. They will be the same for a demo bike or a new bike.
No other fees on this bike or the leftover TXC I bought from them last year for 5k. 5k out the door for a brand new bike????! I about crapped myself! Maybe the fees are already rolled in but even if they are it makes the price of the bike itself even better.
I love how a dealer can ride a new bike until he gets tired of it, and then turn around and sell it as a "DEMO". If I did that it would be called "USED". I follow Husky used and new prices every day. Here are a few similar bikes to help you sort out a fair price.
Thanks for the listings! It will def. help me make a decision. Ends up my wife is off work tomorrow so I wont be going to look at the bike until Tuesday.
Still sounds great to me lol. 5500 for a new one shipped across country. Even new leftovers are over 6k. But I get it. Like said. Even if something's wrong. You'll be able to afford to fix the used one.
I agree that this is still a fantastic price. No doubting that. I remember when a brand new 250 2t cost under 5k MRSP. Those were the days! Im sure there are many on here who remember them a lot less than that. I see 9k for a brand new KTM and almost crap my pants. They are great bikes but I can barely justify buying another bike let alone one that costs THAT much! Plus the 449 is just plain 'ol different and cool!
I think its all going to boil down to the condition of the demo. I have been riding, buying, working on bikes long enough to be able to tell if something has been maintained or not. Thanks for the input guys!
 
Ok $4,300 (plus dealer fee/tax?) is a fair price for a used 2012 TC449 with 25hrs. It's not what I would call a good deal. The TC is less desirable to most because of gearing. I would try to get the price down if you want this bike. It's harder for them to sell the TC's, so I would play hardball. Find a problem, focus on the "cosmetic issues" and offer $3,500. There are lots of good deals out there so don't get hung up on one bike.
No tax because i live in Jersey and I am buying in PA. No other fees either. I am going to look the bike over, ride it, and go from there. I dont want to insult the dealer because they have been really good to me. But if there is an issue or I dont think the bike is worth the price in comparison to my other options, I will offer less. I should be able to find a happy median. The gearing isnt as much of an issue for me. Its pretty much going to be a play bike to ride on my own property and a little bit of street riding once its titled. If I do race it we ride such tight nasty crap that it might work out better the way it is. Once the EFM is done anyway!
 
I love how a dealer can ride a new bike until he gets tired of it, and then turn around and sell it as a "DEMO". If I did that it would be called "USED".

True ... A bike ridden by the owner is not a demo bike, it is a used bike ... This thread is propagating the term 'demo' in an incorrect manner for the less informed potential buyer to read.
 
Maybe the dealer is running it as a demo so he can get husky financing. It certainly seems priced right.

Maybe ... Who knows his business?

The net is great tool for educating the less informed and spreading information in general...

It is also the greatest tool for spreading mis-information since Gutenberg invented the printing press ...

EDIT : I don't know the history of this bike or dealer and I'm not trying to say anything bad on either... I'm just trying to relay what I have dealt with in the past on what I was sold as a 'demo' bike ...
 
I spoke to Dennis yesterday and besides the $4500 price tag on the '12 TC449 I would need to pay $525 dollars in other fees. On top of that I would also need to find a shipper which from past experience would cost about $500 or more. I also can not finance the bike across states lines unless I physically go to the dealer which isnt going to happen. Looks like about $1200 more than the demo bike I have been interested in plus needing to come up with cash (also not going to happen). Im going to search around for a new one within driving distance for a similar price. Im also going to go look at the demo bike tomorrow and check its condition.

Just for clarification our dealer fees are $250 factory to dealer freight (thats what Husky charges us), $196 set up fee , and a $55 document fee. You may want to consider getting a loan locally (credit union, local bank, etc) they can just wire transfer the funds to us. I know many dealers will finance deals inter state, but there are complications and we prefer to steer clear of them. Glad you're considering a Husky, hope you join the family soon!

Paul P
Tri-County Powersports
 
Just for clarification our dealer fees are $250 factory to dealer freight (thats what Husky charges us), $196 set up fee , and a $55 document fee. You may want to consider getting a loan locally (credit union, local bank, etc) they can just wire transfer the funds to us. I know many dealers will finance deals inter state, but there are complications and we prefer to steer clear of them. Glad you're considering a Husky, hope you join the family soon!

Paul P
Tri-County Powersports

I keep pointing out the prices you have on left overs. I can't believe you guys still have them at those prices. I must admit though, I hope you don't sell them until I get my taxes back lol

Also, they have a 2012 TC250 for 3500 new.
 
That 2012 TC just SOLD. 2012 TXC310's sold out too. Check our website for current offers, or just call / email.
 
Just for clarification our dealer fees are $250 factory to dealer freight (thats what Husky charges us), $196 set up fee , and a $55 document fee. You may want to consider getting a loan locally (credit union, local bank, etc) they can just wire transfer the funds to us. I know many dealers will finance deals inter state, but there are complications and we prefer to steer clear of them. Glad you're considering a Husky, hope you join the family soon!

Paul P
Tri-County Powersports
Thanks for the info Paul! Im still on the fence and of course it has nothing to do with your price. I jumped the gun a bit and applied for the Husky financing so I am not sure if I want my credit ran again. I use a local credit union so maybe I will check their rates. Your price it awesome and I am also surprised you still have the bike. On the other hand I feel a sense of commitment to my local dealer. I am going to look at the demo bike and decide. And just to clarify about the demo bike. I could me misinformed or I could be mistaken on how it was used. Im going to ask my list of questions today and get more details. I was under the assumption that it was used more moto only but maybe not.
 
The breakdown is like this. A new 2012 TC449 just sold for $5,001 and you are looking at the same bike used with 25hrs for $4,300. Is a $700 dollar savings worth the risk? If it was me, I would have jumped on that new bike. I know the shipping cost was a factor, but the bottom line is a new bike was sold for $5,001.
If you really think about it, how much value was lost in those 25 hours? Is $700 enough to compensate you for his joyrides on your new (used)bike? I think most used bikes are overpriced, and a good deal on a new one is almost always a better value.
 
The breakdown is like this. A new 2012 TC449 just sold for $5,001 and you are looking at the same bike used with 25hrs for $4,300. Is a $700 dollar savings worth the risk? If it was me, I would have jumped on that new bike. I know the shipping cost was a factor, but the bottom line is a new bike was sold for $5,001.
If you really think about it, how much value was lost in those 25 hours? Is $700 enough to compensate you for his joyrides on your new (used)bike? I think most used bikes are overpriced, and a good deal on a new one is almost always a better value.
You definitely bring up some good points. I think once I look at this "demo" (aka - used?) bike it will help me realize that either I need to offer less and jump on it because it truly is a "demo" bike and was babied, or buy a new one and have it shipped. Even $5500 shipped for a new 450 is a awesome deal. I will find out this week what I am going to do. I really appreciate everyone's input and thoughts.
 
the price dif between a shiny brand new one with the new bike smell and a used one with 25(!!!)hours on it is a a few hundred bucks, and, a total wash with a huge nod going to a new one its a toal no brainer yer financing it and you can have a new one delivered to your home and save yourself a 4 hour drive. you can make it all happen over the phone.

save your pennies, keep shopping, or call and get a new one from TCP!
 
Took the one and a half hour trip to Toy Tech yesterday to see the used '12 TC449. I brought the van just in case! Upon seeing the bike it was as I had expected. Plastics were a bit rough as Scott had informed me but the rest of the bike looked good. Some things that clued me in as to the amount of use were original grips - worn down but not shot. Im pretty sure they were original because there wasnt any grip wire on them and they were bonded to the bars with no signs of grip glue seepage. Original tires - front is in decent shape and the rear is due to be replaced. As far as if the bike was maintained? Chris stated that he went over the bike, checked the fluids, and everything looked good. We went over the bike and when I asked Chris to show me how to check the air filter he stated that he actually hadnt checked that. Upon pulling the filter out it was super clean. The oil also looked very clean when I checked it. No leaks or broken parts. Looked like a bike that had been ridden but taken care of. Chris told me that the bike was ridden by a employee of Husqvarna in CA. The bike was then listed on a site where only Husky dealers can look as the used bikes. The bike is NOT a demo bike and I apologize as posting the thread with this as the description. The bike is a used bike that was never titled so it could be sold as "NEW" simply so Husky financing could be used. When I spoke to Scott again he stated that he originally purchased the bike for himself but when I called asking about leftovers (all sold out) he figured he would sell it to me if I was interested. I trust these guys so between speaking with both Scott and Chris, and taking the bike for a ride, I was ready to take it home. An hour later I was on my way with a new addition to the Husky family.

Once I got the bike home and unloaded I had to of course ride it around my small woods loop. First thing I noticed was the rear end floats over rocks like no other. I have heard Kelly mention this a few times and I couldn't wait to see if I noticed. I did. Forks are on par with my TXC. Power wise......its been a while since I rode a 450 4T. It doesnt flame out near as bad as my '03 CRF450 used to. I sold that bike mainly because I hated how easily it stalled in the woods. The TC on the other hand did very well on my frozen, rocky, washed out trails. I was very pleased that with a little covering of the clutch I was able to negotiate some of the nasty hills without any issues. I felt very comfortable on this bike right away. I dont much car for the weight (who does) or the weird protrusion from the clutch case cover but I will get used to it. I didnt plan on racing the bike but I might in some of the South Jersey sand races that are more wide open. Only spent about ten minutes on the bike so not much more to report. So far.....I am impressed. Ordered a stainless oil filter as Tinken suggested as well as the magnet / spacer. Anyone know if a JD tuner will give me more torque way down low?
 
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