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[huskyfan420123]

I have posted bf about wheeling I can power up in third but I still can not clutch up in fourth like the drz what rpm should I try or anymore advice to clutch up the 630 my buddy with the drz was wondering same thing I cant get revs/ timing right

 

[bushwa]

Stock gearing? It's going to be tough. According to gearing commander.com 3500 rpm in 5th on the DRZ400SM is 46.9 km/h and on the SMS Husky it's 62.3. The Husky is geared much taller than the Suzuki. Actually, stock, it would appear that 4th gear on the Husky is taller than the Suzuki's 5th.

 

[rancher1]

You also have a lot longer wheelbase on the husky as well as firmer suspension working against your wheelies.

 

[Borgschulze]

I still haven't figure out how to wheelie mine.

It's probably for the better... I sold the DRZ because it was too much of a wheelie machine, and I thought I was going to get in trouble with it.

 

[RDTCU]

Swap for a shorter RR swingarm if you want a wheelie machine. As was asked, what gearing? Getting it up in 3rd takes a good bit of effort on my part with 15/41 gearing. I normally just jump it up in 2nd and shift to 3rd etc.

 

[huskyfan420123]

I got I think is it 48? I don't remember to be honest it pulls up in third stand up but I gotta yank it hard at 75 mph im at 5800 rpm when I power up in third im at about 3400 3600 rpm about 40-45 mph

 

[huskyfan420123]

is there realy a diff between sms and smr?

 

[RDTCU]

The SMR 630 was a race bike from the early 2000's. Factory sms gearing is 15/38.
And standups are a bit of a different story, haha.
Your second to last post would be easier to understand with some periods, I thought you were powering it up in 3rd at 75, haha...

 

[huskyfan420123]

I saw there were models in 2011 that said smr

 

[huskyfan420123]

Swap for a shorter RR swingarm if you want a wheelie machine. As was asked, what gearing? Getting it up in 3rd takes a good bit of effort on my part with 15/41 gearing. I normally just jump it up in 2nd and shift to 3rd etc.

the drz clutch on my buddies bike is not hydraulic I cant quite figure out the feel with the clutch on my bike to clutch up what do I gotta do different?

 

[RDTCU]

the drz clutch on my buddies bike is not hydraulic I cant quite figure out the feel with the clutch on my bike to clutch up what do I gotta do different?

The stock DRZ has much closer effective ratios than the 630 with stock sprockets, so what you can do in 4th on the DRZ may not be as easy on the 630.

Here is a comparison:

Gear--DRZ--630
1-----2.29--2.62
2-----1.73--1.81
3-----1.38--1.35
4-----1.09--1.09
5-----0.86--0.92
6 -----------0.77
Chain-3.36--2.53 <--This is what makes the biggest difference

Internally, 4th gear is identical between the two, but the DRZ is sprocketed 33% lower than the 630. So to simplify, the 630 would need to make ~33% more torque at a given RPM to be apples to apples with the DRZ in 4th.

ETA: Also you should occasionally bleed your clutch master cylinder if it feels like your clutch is slipping. I'll do mine a couple times a year. Just wrap it in a rag and crack the screws in the top cover loose to let the excess oil out that is pushed up when the clutch wears and forces the slave piston deeper.

 

[huskyfan420123]

The stock DRZ has much closer effective ratios than the 630 with stock sprockets, so what you can do in 4th on the DRZ may not be as easy on the 630.

Here is a comparison:

Gear--DRZ--630
1-----2.29--2.62
2-----1.73--1.81
3-----1.38--1.35
4-----1.09--1.09
5-----0.86--0.92
6 -----------0.77
Chain-3.36--2.53 <--This is what makes the biggest difference

Internally, 4th gear is identical between the two, but the DRZ is sprocketed 33% lower than the 630. So to simplify, the 630 would need to make ~33% more torque at a given RPM to be apples to apples with the DRZ in 4th.

ETA: Also you should occasionally bleed your clutch master cylinder if it feels like your clutch is slipping. I'll do mine a couple times a year. Just wrap it in a rag and crack the screws in the top cover loose to let the excess oil out that is pushed up when the clutch wears and forces the slave piston deeper.

that makes sense i know about gearing but never know that i thought more power easy wheelies makes sense this bike and this forum have taught me so much thank you

he also if u know this is the swing arm on the te the same as sms?

 

[RDTCU]

Yes all 630s use the same swingarm

 

[huskyfan420123]

Yes all 630s use the same swingarm

hey, I think its time to get my valves done, just about 4000miles, It doesn't feel smooth and I think im loosing power.

what is ur top speed and what rmp are u at ?

plus my bikes feeling twitchy im thinking my wheels need balancing

 

[RDTCU]

hey, I think its time to get my valves done, just about 4000miles, It doesn't feel smooth and I think im loosing power.
Have you checked/adjusted valves before? They should have been done long before 4000 miles.
what is ur top speed and what rmp are u at ?
With my stock gearing, I was at redline (8500rpm) at about 112mph.
plus my bikes feeling twitchy im thinking my wheels need balancing
Twitchy how? I've never balanced a supermoto wheel. It's usually because of an incorrectly set suspension, mainly the rear sag.

 

[huskyfan420123]

I had them checked at 3000, dealer said they were fine

twitch I mean in turns could it be tire pressure?

 

[huskyfan420123]

I had them checked at 3000, dealer said they were fine

twitch I mean in turns could it be tire pressure?

it just feels like its lost power somewhere

 

[RDTCU]

Clean the air filter, new iridium plug, find some ethanol-free premium if you can. If the valves were good at 3000 they are probably good now.

 

[Chillybean]

I'm running 15/41 as well, comes up easy in 2nd the can change up to 4th before I chicken out.

The best to learn how to wheelie is on an old low powered trail bike preferably with a short wheelbase (Honda XR 200 is perfect). Low power means unless you can get to the balance point it's just not gunna work. If possible do it on sand as the rolling resistance from the sand is like constantly riding up hill and it's softer when you stuff up

 

[RDTCU]

I'm running 15/41 as well, comes up easy in 2nd the can change up to 4th before I chicken out.

The best to learn how to wheelie is on an old low powered trail bike preferably with a short wheelbase (Honda XR 200 is perfect). Low power means unless you can get to the balance point it's just not gunna work. If possible do it on sand as the rolling resistance from the sand is like constantly riding up hill and it's softer when you stuff up

Everybody needs a fiddy

And I've topped out 5th on one wheel a few times, set it down at about 90mph, not the best thing for that front tire or stem bearings when the speedo is reading about 15mph...