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Are Steering Stops, Stopping You?

Mikete630

Mikete630

Husqvarna
AA Class
At my buddies home last week and he has a nice KTM 5?? something and it's fast!!! Anyway he took my bike for a cruise down the road and back. He told me when he was making his u-turn he almost fell and dumped my bike. Due to the fact that he is used to a tighter turning radius that's on his KTM. Can the bump stops for the steering be cut down a bit without it being dangerous? What are the down sides of shaving a little off on each side? There is one steel middle stop attached to the frame and 2 aluminum stops one for left and right turn stops on the head like on all other bikes. Which would you choose to cut down a bit to get better turning when in the woods, sand , etc... A tighter turn would send the bike where I want it to go. Sometimes the bike wants to wander because its tall and top heavy. The wheel can only turn so far and I have wound up off the trail heading into the woods, not good!
 
did it ever bother you before your friend rode it?

that is a would be a snatchy excuse if he did drop your bike.

almost like sorry man. i thought your bike had more power so i dropped it.
 
Muddy Waters said:
What about raising the forks through the clamps, shouldn't that give you a tighter turning radius?

:excuseme:
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Yeap (some). Also depending on how your forks sag that will help or hamper (suspension too stiff?/ rebound to fast?). Check your sag in the rear, Tires, rear axle all the way forward or all the way back. They all add up....

My ole KTM could turn very sharp due to the radius and set up- I had my stops adjusted way down- on my Husky I have to leave them out a bit otherwise the tank will be the thing that stops the forks from turning rather than the stops... This takes some adjustment as a rider, but is overcome. At slow speed turns- it becomes more of an issue- use the rear brake weight the front- it'll turn.
 
first couple days i got my bike was drop the forks 10mm and set sag. helped turn in a bit better at speeds and helped freeway speed wobbles. but idk about u turns. im not gonna use it as an excuse.

btw this is street use. so not to offend anyone
 
bpowa said:
did it ever bother you before your friend rode it?

that is a would be a snatchy excuse if he did drop your bike.

almost like sorry man. i thought your bike had more power so i dropped it.
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Yea, when in the dirt trying to bang out a 90 degree left turn it seems like it should be tighter of a turn, easier to turn. When he told me what he felt it matched what I thought when woods riding, but he felt it on the u turn on the street. I never mentioned it prior to him.
 
bpowa said:
first couple days i got my bike was drop the forks 10mm and set sag. helped turn in a bit better at speeds and helped freeway speed wobbles. but idk about u turns. im not gonna use it as an excuse.

btw this is street use. so not to offend anyone
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Thanks
 
HUSKYnXJnWI said:
Yeap (some). Also depending on how your forks sag that will help or hamper (suspension too stiff?/ rebound to fast?). Check your sag in the rear, Tires, rear axle all the way forward or all the way back. They all add up....

My ole KTM could turn very sharp due to the radius and set up- I had my stops adjusted way down- on my Husky I have to leave them out a bit otherwise the tank will be the thing that stops the forks from turning rather than the stops... This takes some adjustment as a rider, but is overcome. At slow speed turns- it becomes more of an issue- use the rear brake weight the front- it'll turn.
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Good to hear, thank you
 
My Hondas have a nice tight turning circle.
Particularly if your not used to it, the 630's have a much wider turning circle and it is too wide in my opinion.
The TE 510 has a tighter turning circle than the 630 and the stops are adjustable:thumbsup:

Husqvarna may have left the turning circle wide on the 630 for people who want to fit bigger fuel tanks so that the forks would not touch the tank at full lock.:oldman:

Anyway I took to the aluminum stops on the stearing head of my SM630 with a Dremel cutting disk.
Was carefull not to take off too much.
The turning circle on the SM is now much tighter and I love it, It can turn on dime.

So in relation to all my other bikes, the turning circle on the TE630 is way too wide and it is next to face the cutting disk.
 
HuskyBrutha said:
My Hondas have a nice tight turning circle.
Particularly if your not used to it, the 630's have a much wider turning circle and it is too wide in my opinion.
The TE 510 has a tighter turning circle than the 630 and the stops are adjustable:thumbsup:

Husqvarna may have left the turning circle wide on the 630 for people who want to fit bigger fuel tanks so that the forks would not touch the tank at full lock.:oldman:


Anyway I took to the aluminum stops on the stearing head of my SM630 with a Dremel cutting disk.
Was carefull not to take off too much.
The turning circle on the SM is now much tighter and I love it, It can turn on dime.

So in relation to all my other bikes, the turning circle on the TE630 is way too wide and it is next to face the cutting disk.
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How much did you take off of the 2 aluminum stops, I do not want to take off to much.
 
Mikete630 said:
How much did you take off of the 2 aluminum stops, I do not want to take off to much.
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The Stops are fatter at the bottom.
I took off 1 millimeter at the top and cut vertically downwards.
This translated into about 2.5 millimeters at the bottom.
I also did some "fine tunning" cutting afterwards.

Rather take off too little to start with, you can always take off more later.

On full lock, you do not want the forks touching the tank.
I think I have about 3 millimeters clearance between the forks and the tank.

Your bike may have slighly different assembly tolerances which would affect the measurements.
So use your judgement and turn the forks to full lock on both sides and view the fork - tank clearance on either side.
Then move the steel frame stopper 1 mm off the aluminum stop on the head and then re asses your fork tank clearance.
That will give you an idea of how much a 1 mm adjustment on the head stoppers will affect your fork - tank clearance.
 
[quote="HuskyBrutha, post: 209062,

Rather take off too little to start with, you can always take off more later.

.[/quote]

Think you mean too MUCH :thumbsup:
 
BiG DoM said:
[quote="HuskyBrutha, post: 209062,

Rather take off too little to start with, you can always take off more later.

.
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Think you mean too MUCH :thumbsup:[/quote]

Not, on this side of the equator "too little" means less, "too much" means more. hahaha
as he said you can always cut off more, but once you've already cut off too much you're SOL and need to get out the welder to fix it.

_
 
BiG DoM said:
[quote="HuskyBrutha, post: 209062,

Rather take off too little to start with, you can always take off more later.

.
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Think you mean too MUCH :thumbsup:[/quote]

No I mean TOO LITTLE.

If you take off too Much to start with, you will reduce the fork - tank clearance more drastically and run the risk of the forks fouling on the tank.
There is no going back unless you re build the aluminium stops on the head with aluminium weld
 
HuskyBrutha said:
The Stops are fatter at the bottom.
I took off 1 millimeter at the top and cut vertically downwards.
This translated into about 2.5 millimeters at the bottom.
I also did some "fine tunning" cutting afterwards.

Rather take off too little to start with, you can always take off more later.

On full lock, you do not want the forks touching the tank.
I think I have about 3 millimeters clearance between the forks and the tank.

Your bike may have slighly different assembly tolerances which would affect the measurements.
So use your judgement and turn the forks to full lock on both sides and view the fork - tank clearance on either side.
Then move the steel frame stopper 1 mm off the aluminum stop on the head and then re asses your fork tank clearance.
That will give you an idea of how much a 1 mm adjustment on the head stoppers will affect your fork - tank clearance.
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Thanks for the measurements, I will make sure to only take off a LITTLE at a time, LOL!
 
You all were very helpful, I will let ya know how it TURNS OUT! Get it, that's a steering joke, TURNS OUT!!! LOL!
 
HuskyBrutha said:
Think you mean too MUCH :thumbsup:
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No I mean TOO LITTLE.

If you take off too Much to start with, you will reduce the fork - tank clearance more drastically and run the risk of the forks fouling on the tank.
There is no going back unless you re build the aluminium stops on the head with aluminium weld[/quote]


Sorry not sure what I was reading? :eek: I think I read a 'not' in there that was not there? ie Do not take off too much to start with = at least we know what is meant. Thanks for the inputs - will have a look at mine and am guessing it may be one of those things that one does not notice at first but when you do becomes an issue ...
 
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