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Are our Huskiteer Day's over for DS Riding --???

Blazes

Husqvarna
AA Class
Was just looking at what is out there to buy that compares to the 610TE for DS and trail riding --NOTHING -- that i can see --that will work for me --So my 2 x 610TE's will just have to last and be rebuilt when needed --Paying whatever it costs to keep a BIG smile on my face -

I know people are raving about the Tera. BUT i wanted to buy one and at the last minute decided -what would i rather ride my 610TE's or the Tera --Was a simple dicision to make -- Here in South Africa you hardly ever get a 610TE for sale 2nd hand and if you do --Its usually past its --Sell by date-
Do you Huskiteers like me who are passionate about the bikes think we will ever see a likes of the 610TE and even the 630TE be built again ??? or are we just dreaming of Easter Eggs Hatching :confused:
 
interesting. i have never ridden a 690 but have always wanted too. i would be interested to know why you love the 610 over the 690?
 
interesting. i have never ridden a 690 but have always wanted too. i would be interested to know why you love the 610 over the 690?


610 TE --More usable Power -- Not as snappy -- Better sitting position for me -- Front end more predictable on a 610 TE -- Better spaced gears - Easier to re-fuel when packed -and then the handling on the 690 --just did not do it for me -
690 has a stronger motor than the 610 and much better fuel consumption

But Hey lots of peeps love them --Myself and two friends now ride other bikes --one bought a 530KTM-- prefers it over the 690 he says - and the other went to more dirt orientated riding and bought a 300ktm
 
If you´ve got a 610 or 630, KEEP IT! I can´t find an alternative to my 630 anywhere in Europe (price no object). Even my local Husky maintenance shop has given up trying to get the last of the 630s. The Husaberg could have been an alternative (or the Husky 499/510) but not maintenance wise). I need two bikes to keep me mobile and I´m holding on to my CCM 640 as a winter bike even though it´s done over 100 000 kms.
 
If you´ve got a 610 or 630, KEEP IT! I can´t find an alternative to my 630 anywhere in Europe (price no object). Even my local Husky maintenance shop has given up trying to get the last of the 630s. The Husaberg could have been an alternative (or the Husky 499/510) but not maintenance wise). I need two bikes to keep me mobile and I´m holding on to my CCM 640 as a winter bike even though it´s done over 100 000 kms.


Think you got that --Spot On ;)
 
I took a look at the Terra and I hope it sells well. The engine is great for the price - good power, mileage, reliability etc. But the welded-on passenger pegs, steel swingarm, lower suspension, smallish fuel tank under the seat, non-standard thin handlebars, and extra weight are all big departures from the mindset of the 610. Its designed for a different audience.

I've been riding with a friend who is on a 690. The 690 has some shortcomings as an adventure bike - the smallish tank and lack of rear subframe are obvious starters. But there's a lot to like. Each time we come to a gate, I envy how quickly my buddy plants his sidestand, flicks his bike to neutral, and hops off. My 610 has the characteristic precarious sidestand (especially when I'm carrying luggage) and fussy neutral. That one was easy to solve - I just asked my buddy to be on gate duty! But my wiring harness, cable routing, leaking oil cap and exposed fuel pump look cheap compared to the 690s braided cables, clean cable routing, and spotless engine block. Add the 690's impressive mileage and brute strength and it all shouts quality. That comes at a price, of course. I am hoping that BMW has a high performance adventure Husky model in the pipes that heads in the 690 direction. I'm not holding my breath. I plan to keep my 610 for now.
 
Hmmm...

Good discussion. I just bought my second TE610. I looked and looked for something that would replace my 2006 TE610 that I had to sell when my relationship went pear shaped. The options were a 650 Husaberg, another 610, the suzuki DR650, a 625sxc, or a KTM 690.

I bought a 2007 te610. Cheap. I've spent about 2k on it so far to go through it, make it like new (bearings/cables/chain/brakes/piston/cam chain etc) and set it up for me.

The Husaberg is amazing, but too narrow focused and the 1litre oil capacity worries me. The suzuki has a motor that has to be about the most reliable ever made but the rest is crap, thrown in for free. Couldn't find a 625 that was reasonably priced and didn't have a kazillion miles under it. I love the motor in the 690. In fact I really like the 690. But they are crazy expensive here in Australia and I still don't believe Fuel Injection is reliable enough in dirt bikes yet. Just read about the woes in the Dakar right now with FI.... A dirt bike would have to be one of the harshest environments for electronics/pumps/injectors etc. Also, shim and bucket valves... What a pain if you don't have the whole shim kit. The motor is astonishing. Simply astonishing. Develops SO much grunt smoothly and effortlessly...


Then I found my newish 2007 610. I like it. A lot. Screw and tappet valve clearance, a bottom end that is built for trucks and all potential failures well known and documented. I can work on it, rebuild it and service it without relying on a backwards hat wearing preoccupied bloke in a stealership somewhere. A well known and proven Keihin carb. It goes well, very well. Better than 95% of blokes can ride, including me. The new Huskys leave me cold. What the heck is BMW thinking?

But IF they do produce the Baja... I'll be first in line! Then I'll have a dirt bike and a road bike... I'm done!
 
I think the 610 is a great bike, but I don't think we'll see a Husky like it again. Most mfgs seem to want to make dirt bikes, plated dirt bikes and street bikes that can do some casual dirt. The 610 fit in between the plated dirt bike and the street/casual dirt category.
 
It looks as if most manufacturers are no longer interested in super moto, so one half of the market has gone. 600cc is a bit too heavy for enduro. What´s left is the 400/500cc class, and that´s most often not much use on full throttle, motorway, commuter distances. KTMs don´t tick the boxes for me and there´s not much left. Any ideas?
 
I owned a 2007 690 and absolutely hated the bike, the power delivery was like a 2 stoke, all peaky and at the top. I would like to try the 2013 690 though, which is now 690cc. I have heard that it is a far superior bike to the older ones which had the 650cc engines fitted.
 
This might be the answer.

Husqvarna Two Stroke Street Legal Direct Injected Dual Sport



Direct Injected and Street Legal? Bring it on!

Husqvarna 300 DI Concept – Illustration by C.G. Design
Husqvarna executives say their engineers are developing a street-legal, direct-injected, two-stroke-powered dual-sport. This illustration represents what we think the bike might look like.
During our recent visit to Husqvarna, company executives said they have a high-tech two-stroke, likely directly injected, in their near-term product plan. At KTM, a tech-services manager claims that the company has a direct-injection two-stroke under test, essentially ready to go when there’s a need in the marketplace. Other companies drop hints that they’re reevaluating their prior decisions to go 100-percent four-stroke with their dirtbike lines. Are two-stroke engines on the verge of a revival?
The answer to that question is yes, at least to a limited extent.
Two-stroke engines in motorcycle applications went away for several reasons. First, they had higher levels of hydrocarbon and carbon-monoxide exhaust emissions than four-stroke engines, and reducing those emissions couldn’t readily piggyback on all the work that had been expended by the automotive industry on car engines. Second, they also had worse fuel economy. But, third, and worst of all, they were perceived as “non-green,” smoke-emitting, image disasters. Major companies such as Honda made the decision to stop producing two-strokes, and racing organizations went along by changing rules to penalize or eliminate them. Four-strokes, with a few exceptions, took over off-road motorcycling, even in closed-course competition.
But there was a cost to that. The new four-stroke motocrossers were more expensive and much more maintenance-intensive than the two-stroke machines they replaced. They also tended to have exhaust sound that was offensive for longer distances, putting pressure on motocross tracks in some locations to quiet down or be shut down. And some riders simply liked two-stroke engine characteristics better.
But two other off-road activities also faced the same issues and came up with different solutions. Both the outboard-marine industry and the snowmobile industry initially attempted to make the switch to four-stroke engines but were met with customer resistance to the heavier and more-expensive powerplants that resulted. This opposition led to a new generation of cleaner, direct-injected two-stroke engines that meet respective emissions requirements—though these are notably less strict than those for on-road vehicles. The most recent example would be Ski-Doo’s E-TEC (ecotech) 800cc Rotax Twin, which puts out 155 horsepower—more power per cc than BMW’s S1000RR, the current king of literbike horsepower. Unlike Bimota’s abortive 1997 Vdue, a two-stroke with conventional injectors squirting into the transfer ports—a design that never really worked—the outboard and snowmobile engines are well-developed and reliable.

This cutaway illustrates how fuel is injected very late in the compression cycle when the exhaust port is blocked, dramatically improving efficiency.
Now that such technology is available for motorcycle engines, some players in the industry are taking another look, since direct fuel injection has the potential to drastically reduce emissions. Two-stroke engines, which combine the intake and exhaust cycles to a degree not possible in four-strokes, have an issue with fresh charge coming through their transfer ports and flowing directly out the exhaust port, dramatically raising hydrocarbon emissions—and not helping fuel economy, either. Direct injection allows fuel to be injected into the cylinder just as the piston is rising to seal the exhaust port, preventing this direct short-circuiting.
Similarly, conventional two-stroke engines at very low loads may actually be operating on four-, six- or eight-cycle processes. This is because so much exhaust gas is retained in the cylinder at small throttle openings that it may take several crankshaft revolutions to clear the cylinder sufficiently to create a combustible mixture. It’s far better to operate at low loads with intake air only (no fuel lost out the exhaust) and the injection programmed to add fuel only on the combustible cycle. When used with engines designed for them, direct injection systems allow much lower baseline emissions before any after-treatment system (catalytic converter) is added, and they can improve fuel economy by as much as 50 percent.
In addition to direct fuel injection, there are other technologies that can help. Two decades ago, Honda introduced a 250cc, two-stroke motorcycle engine for a Japanese-market-only dual-purpose bike that utilized “Activated Radical Combustion.” This is a technology that has since been well-studied by the automotive industry and is more commonly known as HCCI (Homogenous Charge Compression Ignition), a combustion process that requires no spark but uses gasoline rather than diesel fuel. In Honda’s 250, HCCI combustion was maintained from about eight to 50 percent load, with conventional spark ignition used at both the high and low end of the engine load range. The benefit was far more stable combustion (no six- or eight-cycling) when HCCI was operating, lower emissions and—according to those who rode it—a two-stroke that felt as if it had the smooth power of a four-stroke. Honda’s patents have since expired.
While there is little doubt that technology exists to create off-road two-stroke motorcycle engines that meet current and future EPA or California green-sticker off-road emissions requirements, the question remains whether sufficient technology exists to create street-legal two-stroke engines as in, say, a 300cc dual-purpose bike making 40-plus horsepower. This would require one of the available direct-injection technologies, an oxidizing catalyst in the exhaust and, likely, a direct lubrication system that feeds carefully controlled amounts of oil to the main and rod bearings to minimize oil usage. While that question currently remains unanswered, there is at least one top engine designer at a major manufacturer who believed it was possible five years ago. The technology has only gotten better since.
 
I don't need all the speed and power of a 600+cc bike, but I do wonder how the< 500 Huskys stack up in terms of carrying 50lbs of luggage, doing long stretches on the motorways, travelling 2000 miles between oil changes, or going 10,000 miles between major services?
 
I don't need all the speed and power of a 600+cc bike, but I do wonder how the< 500 Huskys stack up in terms of carrying 50lbs of luggage, doing long stretches on the motorways, travelling 2000 miles between oil changes, or going 10,000 miles between major services?

Well the Dakar Husky's should give you a good idea :p
 
I don't need all the speed and power of a 600+cc bike, but I do wonder how the< 500 Huskys stack up in terms of carrying 50lbs of luggage, doing long stretches on the motorways, travelling 2000 miles between oil changes, or going 10,000 miles between major services?


And that´s the problem. I´d have gone for the 500 Husky if it had a bit more oil in the sump, been a bit less maintenance intensive and more reliable on the motorway. My 630 is definitely too heavy. There must be a 400 - 450cc sumo out there somewhere.
 
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