Anyone on a TM?

[haulin husky7]

It's been awhile since my last login on here. I sold my 09 wr250 last year in January and sold my wr144 in December. Bought a 13 crf450r in January last year after selling my wr250 and raced it last season and the first on this season. Ended up selling the Honda in April and bought a 16 Tm 300en! Man what an awesome bike!

 

[268fords]

Sexy****************************************!

 

[juicypips]

Good effort, must admit I'm hankering after a TM still but spares are the only worry for me.
As they truly are an exotic small production machine.

 

[duggoey]

Good effort, must admit I'm hankering after a TM still but spares are the only worry for me.
As they truly are an exotic small production machine.

My work mate and his dad were the Australian importers. He's since sold the business but loves his 165 and is a TM loyalist and knows tonnes about them. It's a fast little thing, he out runs me on the tight stuff. The 300 must be a weapon

 

[shawbagga]

Tm165 duggoey?

 

[john01]

My son has a 2011 TM 250 MX and he has never had a problem with the bike and it' super FAST! Great looking ride; enjoy.

 

[duggoey]

Tm165 duggoey?

A TM, I think it's a165cc, haven't ridden with him for a while. Do they make an Enduro 165? Can never remember the exact size.

 

[NCSteve]

Probably a 150. Wish they'd do a 175 or 200 in that frame

 

[Zomby woof]

They make a 144, but they stroke it instead of just opening up the bore... which gives the option of opening up the bore for more cc's.

I need more power to beat the 450's, so right now I'm debating whether to go 165 with my 2011 CR150, 2016/17 KTM 150, or a TM 144.

 

[NCSteve]

I guess you've seen this:
http://dirtbikemagazine.com/home-features/tm-144-two-stroke-full-test
And this:
http://motocrossactionmag.com/bike-tests/tm/mxa-race-test-2016-tm-144mx

Other than the longer stroke motor, the biggest diff I see with the other 150 options is ali frame.
Unless you're Kalub Russell caliber you'll probably need a 250 or 300 to "beat the 450s" consistently. I feel like a young champ on the 165, but when I'm on the 300 I'm reminded what a serious beast a big bore 2t is.

 

[shawbagga]

Wonder how big u cn go in the TMs? Channeling Walt. En144 isn't ADR compliant here tho which would hurt it's sales

 

[water racer]

We added TM to our dealership this spring to go along with the Betas, and they are selling surprisingly well.
They are very light, great suspension, more linear power than they used to be, and parts are no issue.
I think they are becoming a pretty attractive option. Other manufactures keep raising there prices, so TM is no longer that much more expensive.

 

[duggoey]

Yep I think its a 144. It makes alot of peak power, he's not a big guy and is an ex Enduro champ. Out rides me like it's a CR500

 

[duggoey]

We added TM to our dealership this spring to go along with the Betas, and they are selling surprisingly well.
They are very light, great suspension, more linear power than they used to be, and parts are no issue.
I think they are becoming a pretty attractive option. Other manufactures keep raising there prices, so TM is no longer that much more expensive.

You're not wrong. For a 450cc Jap Enduro you're talking up to and over $13 or $14k AUD, for an Orange European you can pay more! Certainly makes the TM, Betas and Shercos more appealing

 

[NCSteve]

We added TM to our dealership this spring to go along with the Betas, and they are selling surprisingly well.
They are very light, great suspension, more linear power than they used to be, and parts are no issue.
I think they are becoming a pretty attractive option. Other manufactures keep raising there prices, so TM is no longer that much more expensive.

That's great news and just across the mountain from me too

 

[haulin husky7]

Good effort, must admit I'm hankering after a TM still but spares are the only worry for me.
As they truly are an exotic small production machine.

so far parts have not been an issue. I busted my clutch slave cyclinder one Sunday and had a new one at my door on Wednesday in time to get to ride that evening at the local track.

 

[haulin husky7]

That's great news and just across the mountain from me too

I think you might be the guy that bought my 150 back in the winter. How are you liking the bike with the 165 kit on it?

 

[haulin husky7]

I live around 2hrs away from Knox Enduro (water racer). My dad and I took a trip to Knox Enduro to check out a beta 350, they had just got the Tm couple days before I came. I came back a few days later and bought the 300 and loaded her in the truck and have been happy ever since. Gary and his wife at Knox Enduro are awesome to deal with! I'd love to be able to pick up a small bore 144/250f Tm in the future! The 300 is probably the best bike I've ever ridden and I've had a chance to ride quite a few bikes lol. Unlike most other bikes the TM came with grease on all the bearings steering head, swing arm, linkage, wheels etc... I took it apart to grease everything like you had to do with the huskys and to my surprise it had plenty on grease on everything! Tm does not skimp on the bikes they build! The engine is super easy to ride fast I'm not sure if any stock 450s would out run it on a take off and overall top speed I know my Honda wouldn't hold a candle to the 300 power wise. Also the vibration is next to none on this bike think 125 vibrating. Suspension is awesome I've not did anything with it except clickers and have been on tracks from tight technical enduros to fast harescramble style tracks with a Loretta Lynn's mx qualifier track during the race and the suspension soaked up every bit of it. It does like the fuel though in racing conditions about 30 miles and you need to fill up to finish the race. Overall this is the best bike I've every had and would recommend a Tm to anyone.

 

[NCSteve]

I think you might be the guy that bought my 150 back in the winter. How are you liking the bike with the 165 kit on it?

Hey, that might be me. I picked it up in a farm truck It's doing great as a 165, possibly the most fun ever on 2 wheels...so far.

 

[water racer]

I live around 2hrs away from Knox Enduro (water racer). My dad and I took a trip to Knox Enduro to check out a beta 350, they had just got the Tm couple days before I came. I came back a few days later and bought the 300 and loaded her in the truck and have been happy ever since. Gary and his wife at Knox Enduro are awesome to deal with! I'd love to be able to pick up a small bore 144/250f Tm in the future! The 300 is probably the best bike I've ever ridden and I've had a chance to ride quite a few bikes lol. Unlike most other bikes the TM came with grease on all the bearings steering head, swing arm, linkage, wheels etc... I took it apart to grease everything like you had to do with the huskys and to my surprise it had plenty on grease on everything! Tm does not skimp on the bikes they build! The engine is super easy to ride fast I'm not sure if any stock 450s would out run it on a take off and overall top speed I know my Honda wouldn't hold a candle to the 300 power wise. Also the vibration is next to none on this bike think 125 vibrating. Suspension is awesome I've not did anything with it except clickers and have been on tracks from tight technical enduros to fast harescramble style tracks with a Loretta Lynn's mx qualifier track during the race and the suspension soaked up every bit of it. It does like the fuel though in racing conditions about 30 miles and you need to fill up to finish the race. Overall this is the best bike I've every had and would recommend a Tm to anyone.

Good write up!
I am hoping to get one for myself soon, maybe a 144 or 250F, I already have a Beta 350 and AJP 250 as demo bikes, I need to sell one of those, I don't want to be like a bartender drinking up the profits! Everyone says the 144's are awesome. We have a 250EN coming for a customer next week, looking forward to trying it out.