• 4 Stroke Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Italy - About 1989 to 2014
     TE = 4st Enduro & TC = 4st Cross

  • Hi everyone,

    As you all know, Coffee (Dean) passed away a couple of years ago. I am Dean's ex-wife's husband and happen to have spent my career in tech. Over the years, I occasionally helped Dean with various tech issues.

    When he passed, I worked with his kids to gather the necessary credentials to keep this site running. Since then (and for however long they worked with Coffee), Woodschick and Dirtdame have been maintaining the site and covering the costs. Without their hard work and financial support, CafeHusky would have been lost.

    Over the past couple of weeks, I’ve been working to migrate the site to a free cloud compute instance so that Woodschick and Dirtdame no longer have to fund it. At the same time, I’ve updated the site to a current version of XenForo (the discussion software it runs on). The previous version was outdated and no longer supported.

    Unfortunately, the new software version doesn’t support importing the old site’s styles, so for now, you’ll see the XenForo default style. This may change over time.

    Coffee didn’t document the work he did on the site, so I’ve been digging through the old setup to understand how everything was running. There may still be things I’ve missed. One known issue is that email functionality is not yet working on the new site, but I hope to resolve this over time.

    Thanks for your patience and support!

Any news about 2013 ?

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Nice! I like the turn and downhill starting at 5:39-7:13 and 7:20-8:22... nice clean trails, good for you guys that take care of them!
 
I like my 11 Te 250 just the way it is with the close range trans. In fact, the way I have my TE geared for single track Enduro race type stuff matches the way my riding partners Yamaha WR250F's is geared. They both comfortably cruise at 40-45 MPH getting to race trail heads and no more. So the Husky isnt an odd ball. Their is no way that WR would cruise at 50-60 MPH in length with out sending parts everywhere. Just like my TE.

However, if the 449 now came with a wide ratio trans I would ditch my 08 450 in a heart beat to do "mostly dirt, little pavement" dual sport duties. Then I just need one more bike for adventure riding. Maybe the New BMW Sertao 650.(at that point id be in the market for a new wife too!)
 
HUSKYnXJnWI said:
Nice! I like the turn and downhill starting at 5:39-7:13 and 7:20-8:22... nice clean trails, good for you guys that take care of them!
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Not sure if that was sarcasm or ? I will say that the Forest Service maintains the trails for the most part(aside from the occasional organized trail maintenance day parties). Those particular sections are just part of the natural terrain and probably the only reason that trail is rated blue square instead of green circle.
 
Think it was meant as a pat on the back, for a job well done, for the guys who do the work. He spends at least 6 weekends a year doing just that, so he knows what it takes to create and maintain trails.
 
Wow! all the bitchin bout gears and such.
IMHO the 449 is great! I smile every time I ride mine.
reality check here, no one bike can do it all.
And yes the BMW Sertao looks promising but! Husky is suppoesd to be coming out with a six fifty next year that may fill the adventure gap.
Had a KLR 650 almost got out of riding, it sucked. got a WR250R more managealble on the trail, not enough power.
That prompted me to get the TE449. great off road and street legal. Nope not an adventure bike. but it is fun to ride. Just have to save some pennies "and dollars"
and get one more bike.
 
Well looking at threads from last year, it seems that the 2012 stuff was announced around the beginning of June. Hopefully we will not have to debate much longer!
 
joedirt said:
Not sure what kind of racing you do but for a 3 hour race and having to pit for fuel theres a lot of wasted time trying fuel that stupid thing while everyone else is using quick fills.
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Hey, Joe - I just ran a 3hr race (back in March) and had about half of the small tank left. The bike seem to be pretty thrifty on fuel with the power commander and auto tune kit. Just make sure you "top-off" before the race.


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Soooooooo Ummmmm any actual news about the new bikes? I just went through 6.5 pages of arguments to see no new bike pics or press releases after page 2. :cool:
 
I think we all know that any 2t produced by 2014 is going to have to be drastically altered to meet Euro 4 standards. I understand not having a product ready for 2013 that can embrace those changes and not wanting to spend excessively on one years production of an old model. What seems like such an easy alternative is to sell an optional 6 speed kit with all the needed parts for the conversion. There are a pile of WR250/300's that would love to have that as an optional buy. Husky has the parts in the books, they have survived many years in a WR360 with no issues, and re-sourcing those parts that have already undergone all the engineering is inexpensive. That is an option that needs to be in the Hard Parts catalogue. If they don't want to offer that because it would potentially hurt future sales then that is unacceptable to me. Allowing your customer base to refine their bikes to their personal comfort level insures future sales. The six speed was just the final piece to making my WR250 the cats meow and many others would feel the same if they had the option. It still didn't stop me from buying future Huskies.
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I agree if Husky doesn't do something with the WR250/300 Then I'm just going to buy a TXC310 Damit!! Why not? same weight longer power delivery, no more messing with jetting. better suspension, smoother clutch. Its to bad I love my WR and I love 2t but the txc is looking pretty sweet!!!
 
Huskynoobee said:
Soooooooo Ummmmm any actual news about the new bikes? I just went through 6.5 pages of arguments to see no new bike pics or press releases after page 2. :cool:
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You can now find anything you want to know about 2013's all over the internet.

Here is a link to the complete product guide that is posted on Hall's website it's got everything you could every want to know. Except when the first shipment will arrive!:excuseme: My TE has been at the dealer for a month now. If they had a 2013 I would have bought it from someone else already! Waiting on part's for the flywheel. WTF Husky!

http://www.halls-cycles.com/2013_Husqvarna_Product_Guide.pdf
 
The way I see it, BMW are turning Husky in to an old man brand. This new badge-engineered 650 is an embarrassment. The 449 and 511 are giant, weird, complex and heavy and are un-raceable against other brands. They have more weight, less power, and weird handling compared to the models they replaced. That is why Husky has to race the 310.

Any good motorcycle engineer knows that putting the countershaft sprocket on the swing arm pivot is stupid. It makes for a huge amount of anti-squat from the chain tension. So much anti-squat that it is hard to get the front end of the bike to stay up without making the fork so stiff that it doesn't move on bumps. There is a reason every other bike has the countershaft sprocket above the swing-arm pivot, it reduces the anti-squat effect. In fact, the amount of anti-squat can be tuned with different height chain buffers. So not only does it make for bad handling to have the countershaft sprocket on the swing-arm pivot, but it makes the bike wide and complex. Some of you might say "The linkage on the Husky makes up for this!" Do you want a linkage designed to fight anti-squat or to make the suspension work on bumps?

KTM does not make a single old man bike. Everything they make is cutting edge and either "Ready to Race" or at the very least a hooligan machine. There is a reason young guys don't ride BMWs. They are not cool (S1000rr excepted). Even if people suck at riding, a big part of riding a bike is because it is cool. KTM's are cool. Huskies were cool until BMW. The X-Lite bikes are cool but they are a product of the pre-BMW days.

I am a Husky rider. I have a 2008 TC 510 and it is a fire breather! It is a lot of bike to handle but its cool. This new Husky 650? Old man bike! It has nothing on a KTM 690 or a Husky 610 (except maybe a wicked stamped steel swing-arm that looks like it came from the 1970's and about 50lbs).
 
Tessier said:
The reviews are starting to come in it's it look's like Husky is finally putting a competitive bike right out of the box. No EFI modes, no ECU change looking good:applause:

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/135/14661/Motorcycle-Article/2013-Husqvarna-TC250R-First-Ride.aspx
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From the article below ... looks like someone might have did some tuning on the bike instead of just handling off a stocker as was reported in the past with the machines handled out for testing and doing not too well for the riders...

There are two key impressions that were evident right from the get-go. Husky had the bike set-up well from the start as both the engine and suspension characteristics were impressive.

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From the article...

The 2013 Husqvarna TC250R is already available at your local Husqvarna dealer. With a $7,199 MSRP it is cheaper than every bike in its class so European style is now affordable in the four-stroke 250 motocross market.

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Myself, I'm liking all the positive words about the bike
 
Frankie said:
The way I see it, BMW are turning Husky in to an old man brand. This new badge-engineered 650 is an embarrassment. The 449 and 511 are giant, weird, complex and heavy and are un-raceable against other brands. They have more weight, less power, and weird handling compared to the models they replaced. That is why Husky has to race the 310.

Any good motorcycle engineer knows that putting the countershaft sprocket on the swing arm pivot is stupid. It makes for a huge amount of anti-squat from the chain tension. So much anti-squat that it is hard to get the front end of the bike to stay up without making the fork so stiff that it doesn't move on bumps. There is a reason every other bike has the countershaft sprocket above the swing-arm pivot, it reduces the anti-squat effect. In fact, the amount of anti-squat can be tuned with different height chain buffers. So not only does it make for bad handling to have the countershaft sprocket on the swing-arm pivot, but it makes the bike wide and complex. Some of you might say "The linkage on the Husky makes up for this!" Do you want a linkage designed to fight anti-squat or to make the suspension work on bumps?

KTM does not make a single old man bike. Everything they make is cutting edge and either "Ready to Race" or at the very least a hooligan machine. There is a reason young guys don't ride BMWs. They are not cool (S1000rr excepted). Even if people suck at riding, a big part of riding a bike is because it is cool. KTM's are cool. Huskies were cool until BMW. The X-Lite bikes are cool but they are a product of the pre-BMW days.

I am a Husky rider. I have a 2008 TC 510 and it is a fire breather! It is a lot of bike to handle but its cool. This new Husky 650? Old man bike! It has nothing on a KTM 690 or a Husky 610 (except maybe a wicked stamped steel swing-arm that looks like it came from the 1970's and about 50lbs).
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The truth is... BMW/Husqvarna also knows this, has even designed a new frame that does squat, but in arrogance, they will never admit to their own fault. Instead they fired their factory race support placing blame on race support incompetence and tried to sweep the whole thing under the carpet. In a couple of years, Husky will release their new 450/500 and it will be business as usual.

Not one of Husqvarna's finer hours. That is why Husky has to race the 310.

But what do I know, I'm just an old man who enjoys his "old man bike" ;)
 
Frankie said:
The way I see it, BMW are turning Husky in to an old man brand. This new badge-engineered 650 is an embarrassment. The 449 and 511 are giant, weird, complex and heavy and are un-raceable against other brands. They have more weight, less power, and weird handling compared to the models they replaced. That is why Husky has to race the 310.

Any good motorcycle engineer knows that putting the countershaft sprocket on the swing arm pivot is stupid. It makes for a huge amount of anti-squat from the chain tension. So much anti-squat that it is hard to get the front end of the bike to stay up without making the fork so stiff that it doesn't move on bumps. There is a reason every other bike has the countershaft sprocket above the swing-arm pivot, it reduces the anti-squat effect. In fact, the amount of anti-squat can be tuned with different height chain buffers. So not only does it make for bad handling to have the countershaft sprocket on the swing-arm pivot, but it makes the bike wide and complex. Some of you might say "The linkage on the Husky makes up for this!" Do you want a linkage designed to fight anti-squat or to make the suspension work on bumps?

KTM does not make a single old man bike. Everything they make is cutting edge and either "Ready to Race" or at the very least a hooligan machine. There is a reason young guys don't ride BMWs. They are not cool (S1000rr excepted). Even if people suck at riding, a big part of riding a bike is because it is cool. KTM's are cool. Huskies were cool until BMW. The X-Lite bikes are cool but they are a product of the pre-BMW days.

I am a Husky rider. I have a 2008 TC 510 and it is a fire breather! It is a lot of bike to handle but its cool. This new Husky 650? Old man bike! It has nothing on a KTM 690 or a Husky 610 (except maybe a wicked stamped steel swing-arm that looks like it came from the 1970's and about 50lbs).
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This is so much bull! I don't even know where to start. First let me say, that we (Me and my Son) have txc510 and txc511s. And despite the "strangeness" of the 511, it's faster in the woods and better suspended. We have a real comparison here. Not just some "projected" speculation. The fact is, the issue that you say about the swing arm geometry and characteristics are flat wrong. The 511 floats so much better over roots and rock (We have a lot of them here) I experience a whole lot less rear wheel kick than from a conventional set up. Also, the linkage is way better, being on top of the swing arm (we run a lot of mud races) How many time have you replaced linkage bearings in your bike? My KTM friends do all the time. I will agree about the power of a 510, though. But, it better be a more open course, it can't handle in the woods like a 511. We have two years of proof on that. Just my 2 cents worth.

P.s. The new 650 is not to be an off-road race bike - It's great for its designed for - Dual Sport.

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