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Airforks on the 2013 KXF's

Several high profile MX teams have been using them for the last season or two. European factory hondas have them this year. Pro Cuircuit has been helping with them for at least the last two years. They must feel they have it pretty well figured out. Supposed to reduce the weight of the forks by about 2 pounds.
 
Boy the Fox Air Shox sure were dialed back in their day! It would be nice to have all air suspension on a bike and never have to buy springs to dial in the ride.
 
weight reduction. temp/pressure rise must be managed now. must use minimal air , maximum hyd(oil)
All of our aircaft shock struts are air oil, heck they hit just as hard (relatively) but they dont cycle the way an MX/offroad machine does.
 
Mountain bikes started using air suspension to save weight back in the mid-late 90s. Back then, you gave up some performance in the interest of saving weight.

Today's air sprung mountain bikes perform just as well (if not, better) as their coil spring counterparts from long ago, and suspension bits weigh a lot less than they used to.

I was just thinking about this and wondering why we weren't seeing air sprung motorcycles.
 
Looks like a sweet bike. I am not sure I like how the radiator shrouds do not go up to the top of the tank, it looks like an old style mx bike in some ways. I also cannot rap my head around the dual exhaust.

If Honda did not increase peak horsepower it will be a loser in the Mags (that is all they care about).

With the air fork, and refinements to the motor this might make a good cross country, do all bike.

JS
 
montgob1 said:
They are awesome till you blow a seal... Springs keep you off the bump stops
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I know that motorcycles and mountain bikes are in completely different leagues, as far as general abuse goes. But, I have a MTB air shock at home that doesn't leak a speck of air and works just as it did the day I got it, back in 1998. I also have an air fork that is just about 3 years old; works like brand new. Neither piece has ever been serviced. My 1998 Marzocchi coil spring MTB fork has been rebuilt once or twice, though. No complaints about that, either.
 
nobody is running a air shock in F-1 or indycar. most all production cars w air suspension have a hydro assist. i will take a wait and see attitude on it... you do remember 23 " front wheels don't you :)
 
huskyfrk said:
most all production cars w air suspension have a hydro assist.
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In the mountain bikes, all the damping is done via hydraulics. The air is the spring.

It saves a bunch of weight, and also lets you change "spring weight" just by changing the air pressure.

huskyfrk said:
i will take a wait and see attitude on it... you do remember 23 " front wheels don't you :)
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That's probably a good approach. :)
 
Early feedback is very positive. I would have to assume they have it pretty much sorted out or you would not see Honda and Kawi with them. It's not like they tossed them on and said "I hope those work"
 
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