83-88 aluminum kickstarter

[highdez1981430cr]

Anyone running one of these rather than the steel dog leg lever on an early air cooled 430?

And of the aluminum levers are the later ones better than the older style that bolted from the top like the old dog leg lever?

Thanks Guys,

Darrell

 

[fran...k.]

Personally I only have used that dog leg one in conjunction with that silver frame with the engine class you ask about. Perhaps 84-85 dual shock bikes had a steel one similar in shape to the aluminum one you speak of. It had a hanger assembly to keep it folded in place. I think the aluminum ones have a detent, ball spring, and dimple type of thing to keep them folded up so you probably would have to switch some more parts. I also note My 1999 te 410 which is really a continuation of this line of lower end has gone back to a steel kick starter. I think the aluminum one with the top capped keeps the dirt out better but the groove similar to the one on the kick start shaft to keep the thing from falling off reduces the bearing area. I prefer the one without the bolt on the top because I have had that come undone and also break off. I have a whole bunch of those aluminum levers which really need a bronze sleeve to use again.

Fran

 

[visiteur1948]

my 430 CR 1981 and kick 1983 !
no problèm !

 

[highdez1981430cr]

Personally I only have used that dog leg one in conjunction with that silver frame with the engine class you ask about. Perhaps 84-85 dual shock bikes had a steel one similar in shape to the aluminum one you speak of. It had a hanger assembly to keep it folded in place. I think the aluminum ones have a detent, ball spring, and dimple type of thing to keep them folded up so you probably would have to switch some more parts. I also note My 1999 te 410 which is really a continuation of this line of lower end has gone back to a steel kick starter. I think the aluminum one with the top capped keeps the dirt out better but the groove similar to the one on the kick start shaft to keep the thing from falling off reduces the bearing area. I prefer the one without the bolt on the top because I have had that come undone and also break off. I have a whole bunch of those aluminum levers which really need a bronze sleeve to us again.

Fran

Thanks Fran,the one without the bolt looks more like a modern kickstarter.

 

[highdez1981430cr]

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my 430 CR 1981 and kick 1983 !
non problèm !

What holds the kickstarter in place on your model aluminum starter,mine has a plastic retaining hook bolted to the case.

 

[fran...k.]

That one Visiteur1948 pictured is the steel one (at least the one I got on a water cooled dual shock 400 looked very much like that and is steel) that uses a plastic holder in the at rest position. I kind of think it uses the same holes in the case. Somehow that plastic holder looks like the one for the dog leg lever but I don't have my parts pile handy. I am calling it an 1984 and the water cooled dual shock wr400 in 1985. The aluminum ones have a lot of ridges that go half way around and the end ridge is raised so it can wear a hole in the bottom of your boot. I filed a few down because of that reason.

 

[highdez1981430cr]

That one Visiteur1948 pictured is the steel one (at least the one I got on a water cooled dual shock 400 looked very much like that and is steel) that uses a plastic holder in the at rest position. I kind of think it uses the same holes in the case. Somehow that plastic holder looks like the one for the dog leg lever but I don't have my parts pile handy. I am calling it an 1984 and the water cooled dual shock wr400 in 1985. The aluminum ones have a lot of ridges that go half way around and the end ridge is raised so it can wear a hole in the bottom of your boot. I filed a few down because of that reason.

Since i now have a compression release in my head now the aluminum kicker is sounding like the hot set up and i am always up for lighter parts.have you heard of going to 250 primary gears to spin the motor faster?

Thanks Fran,

Darrell

 

[Husq.fleet]

I have alum ones on my 250's. had on one my 430 but took it off for the "stocker" look. They just fold in and stay put on a detent. Boot hits peg easier with alum one than dogleg but not too big of issue.

 

[highdez1981430cr]

I have alum ones on my 250's. had on one my 430 but took it off for the "stocker" look. They just fold in and stay put on a detent. Boot hits peg easier with alum one than dogleg but not too big of issue.

Fran and Huskyfleet,
Do either of you guys have a used aluminum kicker without the top bolt retaining the lever for sale?

Thanks Guys,

Darrell

 

[Husq.fleet]

No, only tall ones I have are steel.

 

[fran...k.]

I have surplus of those kick levers, Of course the best one is on my bike I can start and ride. You would also need (at least I believe) the matching piece it attaches to which I should have as well. I most certainly do not have the next piece with the splines and pawl holder in useable condition. If you really want I can see what I find in a few days.

I just happened to be riding around and starting my silver framed bike with same engine cases as yours and took this picture.

If you started out on Brittish bikes or rode around with guys on Harley pan heads The norm was kick start pedals which went to the straight down position and really didn't hit any stop. The worst of the opposite extreme in my memory is the modern husky wr 250/300/360 maybe even there was a 260 as well. Depends on how you kick it. I used to be able to start this bike or one with that same clutch cover but different everything else with either leg but can't currently seem to start it straddling the bike. You can also see just this week I welded on the kick stand holder because I had to trim it when I had a 360 engine in that set up. That kick starter was lengthened a little not sure if the trimming would have been necessary otherwise it was quite a while ago.

Oh I didn't change footwear since I rode it around and will do so again shortly.