82 wr430

[IMvintage]

I selected my user name because I'm 20 years older than the bike I'm restoring, and maybe I've led a sheltered existence but never seen a kick starter failure of this magnitude! Is this common on WR 430's of this vintage? Busted side cover too?

 

[Husq.fleet]

I selected my user name because I'm 20 years older than the bike I'm restoring, and maybe I've led a sheltered existence but never seen a kick starter failure of this magnitude! Is this common on WR 430's of this vintage? Busted side cover too?

Ouch**************************************** I would check your timing if it was from kickback. If not you must have lost a bearing and had kicker gear get into the kicker pawl. I'm putting decompression valves in all of mine as I have them down. Scott

 

[jdaatwebco]

I set the timing on my 430's at 2.0mm BTDC. If you set it at 2.2, according to the specs, they will kick back and risk the damage you see.

Another thing is, some people have changed the kickstarter engagement to get more spin on the crank. The proper engagement is at the 3:00 position. Anything before that will also lead to breakage.

 

[IMvintage]

Thanks for reply, appears engine is gonna need gone through anyway so I'll make sure I set it at 2 deg BTDC.
Would really like to se more on proper kick gear assembly on 430's.
Haven't seen a thread that makes assembly foolproof yet, have you seen anything?

 

[firecrackerkid]

I'm certainly not the expert here but jdaatwebco said 2.0mm not 2 deg BTDC. I'm sure it was a typo but better safe than trying to figure out why it won't run and you aretrying to look up this post later.

 

[IMvintage]

You are right it was a typo, but good save regardless.

 

[FrancoisH]

Hi from New Zealand. My 84 CR500 has suffered a similar fate. Clutch cover very cracked. Pawl and gears shot. I have discovered that the pawl is still available new as it was used on the four stroke however the one I sourced throught he NZ husky importers is slightly wider than the original. It looks to be easily modified with some appropriate grinding. cheers Francis

 

[oldhuskychuck]

looks like your kicker was out of time..i have the replacement parts you need.

 

[IMvintage]

I would really love to see a step by step procedure to set up kickstarter mechanism, ever been one of those on this site? It doesn't seem all that complicated but a mistake could be costly!

 

[oldhuskychuck]

over the years i have it down pretty good, last 3 Huskys that my Brother picked up, and Kickstarter issues..
got them all straightend out...a sit down on the bench with focus is needed..and patiance...lots of patiance, remember, when it gets too tough,,walk away,,and come back later.

 

[IMvintage]

But what are the main things to look for to get set up properly?

 

[HuskyT]

over the years i have it down pretty good, last 3 Huskys that my Brother picked up, and Kickstarter issues..
got them all straightend out...a sit down on the bench with focus is needed..and patiance...lots of patiance, remember, when it gets too tough,,walk away,,and come back later.

Chuck,

This might be a good subject for a detailed and photographed thread .

Any possibility you could do this?

T

 

[oldhuskychuck]

ill have to see if i can get that done.
i have a 2 day trials event this weekend,, ill see if i can get it done next week.
iv had guys watch me do it, several times...and they still cant seem to get it right.
my brother is one of those...ill bet he has watched me set the kicker a hundered times...
and he gets frustrated every time...
i thought i was going to have to do it on the side if the trail last weekend...my kicker fell off, when i was carefully trying to put it back on, the shaft slipped....i got lucky,,.the prawl didnt fall into the works...i grabbed the shaft with a cheapy pair of pliers..and got the kicker back on..used oh Sh*t wire to hold it on....

 

[IMvintage]

I think I have most of the stuff I need except a clutch cover and a pretty tank ? Got either one of those?

 

[SA63]

there are not many spare covers out there.. as they are pretty light weight. If yours is not totally destroyed they can be repaired by somebody who can tig it with magnesium welding rod. Dont try aluminium rod or al/mag rod (I know!)

 

[IMvintage]

Case is a total loss, need a new one for sure.

 

[fran...k.]

I have never seen the type of failure you picture. The left side case can crack where the shaft the intermediate gear rides on goes so perhaps you can figure a way to consider it a good thing.

If you are willing to use one with the water pump casting and block that off they are a lot more easily obtainable. Some have the extra hole and the kick starter rubber like yours, some have the kick starter rubber like yours and no extra hole, and the 87-88 ones have the extra hole and a different kick start rubber design but I kind of think they changed the offset of the piece that goes in-between the kick shaft and the aluminum pedal for the latest.

What sort of shape is the portion of the kick starter shaft which holds the pawl? Those are almost never in good, very good or excellent shape. Perhaps it was putting a twisting force on that gear. That part shows available on line (though that doesn't always mean it is available) And for the $80 or so it is a lot larger and more complicated than some $60 pieces.

 

[IMvintage]

I had two bikes, one was a 70% complete parts bike with motor disassembled.
Cherry picked best parts from both,combined starter parts to get a pawl that worked smoothly, now just need a case before I can go much further.
Watercooled case with a block off plate would work for now as long as it didn't cause other issues.
Anybody got one of those covers???

 

[SA63]

I think you are a fine candidate for checking out the repro covers!!

 

[IMvintage]

I would like to , but would need to get some kind of assurance that it would line up.