machine builder
Husqvarna
B Class
ahhh, I see, great news, made them harder I hope, thanks again.
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Hi everyone,
As you all know, Coffee (Dean) passed away a couple of years ago. I am Dean's ex-wife's husband and happen to have spent my career in tech. Over the years, I occasionally helped Dean with various tech issues.
When he passed, I worked with his kids to gather the necessary credentials to keep this site running. Since then (and for however long they worked with Coffee), Woodschick and Dirtdame have been maintaining the site and covering the costs. Without their hard work and financial support, CafeHusky would have been lost.
Over the past couple of weeks, I’ve been working to migrate the site to a free cloud compute instance so that Woodschick and Dirtdame no longer have to fund it. At the same time, I’ve updated the site to a current version of XenForo (the discussion software it runs on). The previous version was outdated and no longer supported.
Unfortunately, the new software version doesn’t support importing the old site’s styles, so for now, you’ll see the XenForo default style. This may change over time.
Coffee didn’t document the work he did on the site, so I’ve been digging through the old setup to understand how everything was running. There may still be things I’ve missed. One known issue is that email functionality is not yet working on the new site, but I hope to resolve this over time.
Thanks for your patience and support!
2013 Txc 310r Starter Recall Notice
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Husqvarna
ahhh, I see, great news, made them harder I hope, thanks again.
machine builder
Husqvarna
B Class
Im not sure about that, but checking the part numbers for each yeah would match the numbers.. My dealer has tried endlessly and KTM/Husky will not honor the new parts.
I tried ItalaHusky and they have none in stock, so now Im looking for someplace else to try to buy them. going to try the place in Spain .
If anyone else knows of a place who might have them, please let us know.
thanks again..
UPDATE, the parts list shows these parts as years 010-014
UPDATE, I just checked with Greenland MX and they do not have these parts now.
So now need another place to try.
Suggestions anyone????
hhdwtmtw
He who dies with the most toys wins...
I bought mine from Halls Cycles a few months ago. I think they may have their own stockpile.
Submit an enquiry at https://www.halls-cycles.com/send-us-a-email--contact and someone will let you know if they have any.
Submit an enquiry at https://www.halls-cycles.com/send-us-a-email--contact and someone will let you know if they have any.
machine builder
Husqvarna
B Class
Ohh WOW, thanks !!! I'll call them tomorrow.
Oh yeah, Ive been to Melbourne 2 times, very nice place.
UPDATE: I just called Halls and they DO have the starter free wheel and gear shaft. So I just ordered them, ships today.
Cant wait, Im excited now,
Thanks again
machine builder
Husqvarna
B Class
ahh ok, very good advice, Ill do that and check it carefully . Thanks for all the help, I really appreciate it. This forum is awesome ****************************************
machine builder
Husqvarna
B Class
UPDATE: just got my new starter gear set. They look great. Now my real problem is my rotor is worn from the sprag clutch. I cant find one anywhere.
part # 8000-H7695
robertaccio
Husqvarna
Pro Class
This also happened with Kawasaki Kokusan flywheels/sprags, even the slightest imperfections on the inside of that flywheel sprag clutch mating surface and the whole starter assembly function goes to crap. Back in the day I replaced everything, luckily my dealer did all the paperwork and I got all my replacement parts.
robertaccio
Husqvarna
Pro Class
Sometimes the "waves" imperfections from the sprag rollers are barely visible to the eye or even to the fingernail. It's like a zero tolerance for anything deal. I remeber the word was that the flywheels were tempered incorrectly and sprag rollers were harder and wore the rotor/flywheel.
machine builder
Husqvarna
B Class
I didnt take a pic of it, but someplace in the past, someone else posted some pics of it.
The other 2 comments are what happened to mine, soft metal and the sprag chewed the surface. I tried to clean it up a little in my lathe, but there is zero tolerance allowance for it to function correctly. Just for fun, I made a mock one, to test the tolerance allowance and function correctly, its really tight.
I have considered having the surface spray welded, then turned back to size. but it sure would be nice to just find one somewhere and replace it. lol
hhdwtmtw
He who dies with the most toys wins...
It looks like the rotor/flywheel is NLA. Maybe check with Halls to see if they have stock.
Maybe try decreasing grit sizes of wet and dry emery cloth to refinish the surface. I've replaced a few sprag clutches and had no further issues doing this. Failing that you could see if SKF make a Speedi-Sleeve in the size you need.
Maybe try decreasing grit sizes of wet and dry emery cloth to refinish the surface. I've replaced a few sprag clutches and had no further issues doing this. Failing that you could see if SKF make a Speedi-Sleeve in the size you need.
machine builder
Husqvarna
B Class
yes same info I got. Called Halls and talked to Raymond, I also checked TwinStar, / ItalaHusky and same answer. The Speedi sleeve is a great idea, if it didnt spin under the starting load. Ill call a distb tomorrow.
The perfect size for the sprag is 2.460 62.5 mm is 2.462, it cant be any larger than that. The I.D. of mine is well over that.
machine builder
Husqvarna
B Class
yeah, thats for sure. Im the 2nd owner and I wish the original guy would of had this fixed when new. But I dont think he knew about the recall and figured to just sell it off cheap. So I bought it with about 12-15 hrs on it for $2500. now I want to sell it. lol
machine builder
Husqvarna
B Class
yes, the rotors are soft and the sprag is very hard, so it chews it up, then the diameter is too larger for the sprag to grab anymore.
hhdwtmtw
He who dies with the most toys wins...
The sprag doesn't move inside the flywheel so I would clean up the inside surface of the flywheel, install a new sprag clutch and go riding. The damage is usually due to metal filings from the ring gear getting between the pawls and the contact points.
The sprag slips and grabs on the starter ring/spur gear. This inner surface gets more wear and you have a new ring gear to install.
I measured a new sprag clutch and it's 62.5mm OD. The closest SKF Speedi-Sleeves are 62mm or 63.22 so not close enough. If you have access to a lathe you could dress up the finish of the flywheel. The pawls of the sprag clutch can rotate a fair way so a small increase in flywheel ID shouldn't matter however you don't want the sprag assembly to be loose. Maybe machine a few mm out of the flywheel and make your own 2-3mm sleeve and glue it in with Loctite 638 to bring it back to OEM dimensions. You mentioned spray welding but the heat may kill the permanent magnets for the stator (unless you can remove them).
The sprag slips and grabs on the starter ring/spur gear. This inner surface gets more wear and you have a new ring gear to install.
I measured a new sprag clutch and it's 62.5mm OD. The closest SKF Speedi-Sleeves are 62mm or 63.22 so not close enough. If you have access to a lathe you could dress up the finish of the flywheel. The pawls of the sprag clutch can rotate a fair way so a small increase in flywheel ID shouldn't matter however you don't want the sprag assembly to be loose. Maybe machine a few mm out of the flywheel and make your own 2-3mm sleeve and glue it in with Loctite 638 to bring it back to OEM dimensions. You mentioned spray welding but the heat may kill the permanent magnets for the stator (unless you can remove them).
machine builder
Husqvarna
B Class
thanks for checking that.
yeah, thats what my problem was, the sprag rotated in the flywheel/rotor and it got tore up,it is now too large dia., so installing a sleeve is the best idea. I worried about those magnets too with heat. it it wasnt for those being in there, I would just make a new one and heat treat it hard. Then market the things lol.
machine builder
Husqvarna
B Class
I have a small lathe, but have plenty of machine shops in town, I can go to. And I have a full size Bridgeport mill with rotary table. Yeah handle/name is my profession.