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Hi everyone,
As you all know, Coffee (Dean) passed away a couple of years ago. I am Dean's ex-wife's husband and happen to have spent my career in tech. Over the years, I occasionally helped Dean with various tech issues.
When he passed, I worked with his kids to gather the necessary credentials to keep this site running. Since then (and for however long they worked with Coffee), Woodschick and Dirtdame have been maintaining the site and covering the costs. Without their hard work and financial support, CafeHusky would have been lost.
Over the past couple of weeks, I’ve been working to migrate the site to a free cloud compute instance so that Woodschick and Dirtdame no longer have to fund it. At the same time, I’ve updated the site to a current version of XenForo (the discussion software it runs on). The previous version was outdated and no longer supported.
Unfortunately, the new software version doesn’t support importing the old site’s styles, so for now, you’ll see the XenForo default style. This may change over time.
Coffee didn’t document the work he did on the site, so I’ve been digging through the old setup to understand how everything was running. There may still be things I’ve missed. One known issue is that email functionality is not yet working on the new site, but I hope to resolve this over time.
Thanks for your patience and support!
2008 TE250 won't start!
- Thread starter Blake
- Start date
HUSKYnXJnWI
Husqvarna
AA Class
can you answer these questions for me- so I/we know exactly what's going on at this point-
Symptoms:
When you- turn key ON- with Right hand switch ON (red button)
1- speedo does not cycle normally and show “normal screen”- (correct??) Y/N
2- the fuel pump did not cycle- (correct??) Y/N
3- the DC circuit (tail light/ odo/ euro minu headlight) is working-- (correct??) Y/N
4- Only the green light “neutral” on the speedo lights up, does it “just” light up and not blink- (correct??) Y/N
Also if you put the bike in gear does the light go off?
Then/ When you then hit the Right hand Switch starter button (black button)
1- Nothing happens- no click, does not turn over- (correct??) Y/N
Then/ When you kick the bike with kick start-
1- it does not start - (correct??) Y/N
2- the fuel pump does not prime- (correct??) Y/N
KNOWN-
1- battery is good (verified by testing)
2- Fuses are good (changed with new)
3- swiches were cleaned and are now dry
Symptoms:
When you- turn key ON- with Right hand switch ON (red button)
1- speedo does not cycle normally and show “normal screen”- (correct??) Y/N
2- the fuel pump did not cycle- (correct??) Y/N
3- the DC circuit (tail light/ odo/ euro minu headlight) is working-- (correct??) Y/N
4- Only the green light “neutral” on the speedo lights up, does it “just” light up and not blink- (correct??) Y/N
Also if you put the bike in gear does the light go off?
Then/ When you then hit the Right hand Switch starter button (black button)
1- Nothing happens- no click, does not turn over- (correct??) Y/N
Then/ When you kick the bike with kick start-
1- it does not start - (correct??) Y/N
2- the fuel pump does not prime- (correct??) Y/N
KNOWN-
1- battery is good (verified by testing)
2- Fuses are good (changed with new)
3- swiches were cleaned and are now dry
Blake
Husqvarna
A Class
HUSKYnXJnWI
Husqvarna
AA Class
Thanks Blake-
Under the tank- on the left side of the frame are 2 relays- one is the called the power relay and the other is the fan relay. (on the right side is the DC Relay) if the previous owner does not have them in the original configuration or they are not attatched in the OEM way on clips- you might have to verify further..
If everything "looks" oem configuration- then swap the 2 left side relays- the fan and the power relay- NOW turn the key and see if anything is different.
Under the tank- on the left side of the frame are 2 relays- one is the called the power relay and the other is the fan relay. (on the right side is the DC Relay) if the previous owner does not have them in the original configuration or they are not attatched in the OEM way on clips- you might have to verify further..
If everything "looks" oem configuration- then swap the 2 left side relays- the fan and the power relay- NOW turn the key and see if anything is different.
Blake
Husqvarna
A Class
Swapped them around same thing
Speedo is still dead
Is it normal for the fuel pump cable that connects to the pump to not have shielding going all the way in? On mine the cables are not bare wires they are still shielded but the black part of the shielding doesn't go into the fuel pump.
Any ideas?
Speedo is still dead
Is it normal for the fuel pump cable that connects to the pump to not have shielding going all the way in? On mine the cables are not bare wires they are still shielded but the black part of the shielding doesn't go into the fuel pump.
Any ideas?
HUSKYnXJnWI
Husqvarna
AA Class
So after you swapped the power and fan relay's did the bike prime or the start turn? I assume it did not....
Ok I am running out of parts to tell you to look at.... the easy plug and play tests have run its course. At this point I think if everything you checked is operational, that the Ignition switch, RH switch, or ECU is malfunctioning.
get your hands on a schematic- basically half your bike is getting power the other is not when you turn the ignition on. If it were also the pump and not the starter it would also be different...a fuel pump alone will not cause your current problem.The starter/ ignition circuit is controlled by the ignition/keyed switch, the on/off right hand switch, and the Starter switch (also right hand switch), the clutch safety switch, the power relay, the starter relay, the ecu main fuse (yellow). Looking for a common denominator with what powers the fuel system, I end up with the Ignition switch, on/off right hand switch, power relay, main fuse (yellow).
So I am going back to the ignition switch (double pole) controls dc circuit and turns on power to ignition/fuel. Then the Right hand switch On/Off (red button). You need to bypass the switches, or test the switches with an ohm meter, to diagnose. I am afraid that the only thing after this I will have to suggest is the ECU (which doesn't really make sence since this was all started by washing the bike apparently) But it could be cracked and water could have gotten in.
The speedo is such an unreliable item I haven't even considered its lack of function in my assessment- but part of it could not be getting power (from the ecu)....
Ok I am running out of parts to tell you to look at.... the easy plug and play tests have run its course. At this point I think if everything you checked is operational, that the Ignition switch, RH switch, or ECU is malfunctioning.
get your hands on a schematic- basically half your bike is getting power the other is not when you turn the ignition on. If it were also the pump and not the starter it would also be different...a fuel pump alone will not cause your current problem.The starter/ ignition circuit is controlled by the ignition/keyed switch, the on/off right hand switch, and the Starter switch (also right hand switch), the clutch safety switch, the power relay, the starter relay, the ecu main fuse (yellow). Looking for a common denominator with what powers the fuel system, I end up with the Ignition switch, on/off right hand switch, power relay, main fuse (yellow).
So I am going back to the ignition switch (double pole) controls dc circuit and turns on power to ignition/fuel. Then the Right hand switch On/Off (red button). You need to bypass the switches, or test the switches with an ohm meter, to diagnose. I am afraid that the only thing after this I will have to suggest is the ECU (which doesn't really make sence since this was all started by washing the bike apparently) But it could be cracked and water could have gotten in.
The speedo is such an unreliable item I haven't even considered its lack of function in my assessment- but part of it could not be getting power (from the ecu)....
Blake
Husqvarna
A Class
I spoke with the dealer and the tech said it sounded like a grounding problem to him.
I think the ground or - cable goes on the inside of the frame from the battery to some place
On the bottom where it splits into 2 and one goes to the front of the frame?
My dealer is at $81 per hour and no diagnostic fee is pricey when it is all still just trial and error!
At least they would have known good parts I guess...
Blake
I think the ground or - cable goes on the inside of the frame from the battery to some place
On the bottom where it splits into 2 and one goes to the front of the frame?
My dealer is at $81 per hour and no diagnostic fee is pricey when it is all still just trial and error!
At least they would have known good parts I guess...
Blake
HUSKYnXJnWI
Husqvarna
AA Class
They may be talking about the ground (frame itself- is common ground) where the coil grounds to the frame (bolts)- yes that's possible. Completely, remove the coil from the frame and clean the connection area with a wire brush or sandpaper, then use dielectric grease then put back the way you found it and tighten the bolts properly. Also verify your ground to battery cable connections.
If that's the solution- the supposed cause of this at the beginning was washing the bike- which in and of itself, at this point, although electrical, does not add up. More proof that the symptoms are more important that the coincidental yet highly valid suspected cause.
If that's the solution- the supposed cause of this at the beginning was washing the bike- which in and of itself, at this point, although electrical, does not add up. More proof that the symptoms are more important that the coincidental yet highly valid suspected cause.
HUSKYnXJnWI
Husqvarna
AA Class
The fuel pump is not in its cradle completely- it is dislodged. It needs to be pushed back down to where the plastic clip (white) which runs vertically to it is locked to the seam where the clear metal diameter meets the black circumference... CLASIC ziptie weakening. Read up and use wire.
This however is not the cause to your current issue. Just one that is identified along the way.
I hope your dealer is helpfull.
This however is not the cause to your current issue. Just one that is identified along the way.
I hope your dealer is helpfull.
Blake
Husqvarna
A Class
They fixed it!
2 hours labor to find it. It was a crimped wire caused by bad factory cabling per tech! I have not picked it up but I will take a pic of what they found and post it up.
As for the pump the tech said they use hose clamps not safety wire.?
Thanks for all the help!
Blake
2 hours labor to find it. It was a crimped wire caused by bad factory cabling per tech! I have not picked it up but I will take a pic of what they found and post it up.
As for the pump the tech said they use hose clamps not safety wire.?
Thanks for all the help!
Blake
HUSKYnXJnWI
Husqvarna
AA Class
Awesome!! Congrats- told you that wiring looked like a rats nest and needed some work
,As for the pump- that will work as well- as long as it gets secured. I, like many, just wired it horizontally and vertically (its not going anywhere) but the clamps are also being used (I believe that's what they did with some of the newer bikes from the factory (xlites)...
Glad you got it fixed
now you know twice as much about your bike at least...
RIDE>>>RIDE>>>>RIDE!!!
Blake
Husqvarna
A Class
It was a rats nest but I fixed it!
I had this old hood to a ski jacket that I found in a closet that had the Velcro and red shock cable.
Here is the cable they found the broken ones after cutting the shielding of the wire snake which was run under the harness here.
The Atlanta BMW shop did a good job!
I did learn and will be stabilizing the fuel pump after a run it out of gas the fun way****************************************
Thanks guys!
Blake
I had this old hood to a ski jacket that I found in a closet that had the Velcro and red shock cable.
Here is the cable they found the broken ones after cutting the shielding of the wire snake which was run under the harness here.
The Atlanta BMW shop did a good job!
I did learn and will be stabilizing the fuel pump after a run it out of gas the fun way****************************************
Thanks guys!
Blake
HUSKYnXJnWI
Husqvarna
AA Class
They seem to be a great dealer from the info I've seen on forums.
Looks much better...
Just don't wait too long on taking care of the pump-(aside from it seemingly running out of gas early) I want you to know that when its out of its cradle like that its not drawing filtered gas from the filter bag- its just drawing it from the tank- which endangers your pump of contaminents.
have fun!! glad its sorted
Looks much better...
Just don't wait too long on taking care of the pump-(aside from it seemingly running out of gas early) I want you to know that when its out of its cradle like that its not drawing filtered gas from the filter bag- its just drawing it from the tank- which endangers your pump of contaminents.
have fun!! glad its sorted