hi all i have a terra with a dead dash(dosent power up) the repairer is awaiting parts from China to repair it (still waiting) as a back up...does anyone have or know of a second hand dash available as my fixer says he can clone it...can be damaged,as long as it powers up maybe a link to a wrecker(worldwide) also(perhaps) is there a crossover dash from bmw to make use of the internals? thanks russ
Your one and only local bet and it will not suit a Strada without re-flashing the ECU in Europe (to enable ABS function/ adjust for different wheel sizes etc) https://ishr.site/nXBM If your "fixer" can "clone" a TR dash I'm sure there is a dozen or so owners around the globe who would LOVE to talk to him/her before the week is out!!
thanks for the link man i bought it ill fit to my bike and when the fixer mends my dash,i will either swap back or onsell either the problem is mine has been mossed? and now runs really well(dont know as i bought bike with dead dash) seller said not to go with recall as bike now runs really well it also has a bosch injector if the new electrics are not accept ,i will try to get the bike recalled will see how it goes thanks again russ
There is considerable misinformation re the Dash & BMS-E on the TR650 as well as the BMW Diagnostics/Programming System First the term MOSS refers to Motorrad Online Service System which is the name for the old BMW bike Dealer Diagnostics and Programming system, the bike dealers were upgraded to the ISTA system used by the BMW car dealers around the time of the release of the TR650 The dash on the TR650 has the connections & interface circuits for the key system but only holds EWS temporary data, the BMS-E is the master for EWS, the dash does have master info on the ODO with BMS-E holding back up data. To be able to have 2 dash assemblies with the same EWS info ISTA-P is used to program the 2nd dash as a "replacement" of the first dash, if the original dash is still operational ISTA-P gets the current data from the dash then prompts for connection of the 2nd dash, checks the firmware revision level, updates the firmware if needed (only one firmware release for the TR650) & then loads the ODO & EWS data to the replacement dash, if the original dash is not operational then back up data from the BMS-E is loaded into the replacement Once programmed when swapping from one dash to the other there will be an error thrown up if ODO values differ from the value in the BMS-E & there is a routine in ISTA-P to sync the dash & BMS-E ODO values Russell, the Key/Dash/BMS-E set you purchased was good value assuming a key comes with it but should be kept as a set, the BMS-E has the data for a different VIN & EWS key data, the VIN cant be changed, the dash can be swapped over with ISTA-P & then changed again to swap back to the BMS-E you are purchasing There is an ability to program up to 4 keys into the BMS-E so you should be able to add the key from the ECU set you are purchasing into your existing BMS-E and also add your current key into the replacement BMS-E The above means locating a tech with the BMW ISTA system set up to do the work & there will be more than a little time taken to achieve the optimal result
thanks Wayne i was hoping to get a second dash to donor parts to my dead dash eg from terra,strada,bmw now that i have the replacement ensemble tho,i can wait for parts from china to repair my dash,and if not then it wont matter,i will still have a functioning bike i found out that new ecu has not had the recall,so if the fuelling problems are evident,then i will get the ecu to ktm i rang Dahlitz to find out what they did to the oem ecu,when the PO took it to them,and they said it was prob the recall,albeit thru MOSS so i should get the same result thru ktm,once recalled ktm sends the ecu to MM in italy,and i am not sure if they (MM)are back to full(or part)production as yet once i get a functioning bike,i will prob sell the second ensemble i cant get to the bike until the borders are relaxed,as i am in Tas and bike is in Newcastle,prob another 5 weeks russ
Trying to donor parts from one dash to the other is crazy, & no the recall was never through that horrible term MOSS, there were BMW firmware updates through the BMW ISTA system & if Dahlitz updated the BMS-E to the last BMW version that is all you need not the dodgy MM update As for parts from China, what parts & who is attempting the repair on the dash ? As to the bike being in Newcastle is there any chance the people there can do a GS911 autoscan on it ?, that will tell what firmware version is in the BMS-E plus it may tell us whether the dash is actually still communicating via CAN BUS & is merely not providing display
the bike is at my nephews house in nelson bay the dash is at fixers in wentworthville part required to power up dash coming from china..the only place in the world who has the part(dont shoot the messenger) the start button dosent work which suggests no dash power as start button is canbus? ECU meistro will be my next stop if wenty cant fix the dash...i may need 1 key from them for my "new"ensemble anyway when(if)i get my dash fixed,then i will keep the orig ensemble and onsell the new parts,as performance is good(so im told)and VIN is correct maybe bmw not letting us update to the latest bmw version...ive got no idea...just going on what ive learned here i dont have a whole lot of choices russ
I find it hard to believe the IC is only available out of China, the dash is made in Spain or Portugal (cant recall which off hand), same Mfr as BMW Dash assemblies, ST Microelectronics is the major supplier of auto industry IC's along with Infineon, what is the IC No needed ? The reason for no start is the BMS-E will not activate the Injector & other items as it has not completed the EWS routines to confirm key etc
what is the IC No needed ? sorry....no idea but when/if i get a result i will def post it up nothing worse than following a post,and the OP gets a fix and dosent share his findings the new ensemble arrived today and sure enough,only one key ECU meistro claims they can make a key,so if i go with this new set,ill get 2nd key made have booked the Ferry to melb and just waiting for border restrictions to soften so i can go and get the bike russ
