TE449 - Headlight and turn signals not working

The headlight and both front and rear turn signals will not come on. Any pointers for where to start looking? Is there a single fuse for all of them, or a single plug if unplugged would take out all of them?
Thanks in advance

You do know that they require the motor to be running to operate.

Yes, this is while running sir.

If the fuse is good then check the relay.

The fuse must be good because the dash still works, and if I read correctly it controls that too.

I'll test the relay next, when I can pull that nest of wires apart.

I just went to my shop and pulled the 10 amp fuse on my bike. It disabled the headlight and turn signals but the dash still worked. I hope that helps. Good luck.

Cool man, you were right, fuse is blown.

Now is this a standard type of fuse I should be able to get at the hardware/autoparts store?

Yes, auto parts store.

Unless you loaded up the DC side, you may have a problem. I cannot say if it is the same, but on my brand new 449, one of the wiring harnesses mid-bike was misrouted, melted and shorted out. Result was random fuse pops on the fuse next tot he headlight (all the DC stuff). Not sure if there is a bulletin out, but my dealer was able to knock out the warranty repair in one day...sort of makes me think this is a reoccurring problem.

Thanks. It may have blew when I shorted a tool against the battery positive lead. I'll replace it if and if blows again I'll know I have another problem.

Well the new fuse lasted about 30 seconds. It blew when the blinkers were on, or when I pressed the blinker switch down to turn them off.
Any advice on how to diagnose this?

Are you close to a dealer (or have a good relationship with one)? They may be able to check and see if there is indeed a bulletin. I fully expected my electrical gremlin to take a LONG time to find...but they had .4 hours of labor down...makes me think they knew exactly where to go.

I wished I would have paid more attention, but I know it was a misrouted wire bundle mid-bike.

I can check wires and things like that, I just don't know the troubleshooting method for finding the grounded circuit, if that's what it is.
I'll figure it out

I would start by disconnecting all non essential stuff - all the lights, horn, etc.. Get it down to just the AC and DC charging circuit and see if you can hold the fuse. Then add them back in one at a time and retest.

I would check the switch controls for shorts.

Might be the switch. I've got all the lights/blinkers disconnected and it still blows when I press the switch for the blinkers.
I've got that apart, but not sure how that blinker control part of the switch comes apart.

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Got the switch all apart and it looks brand new and nice and clean. Fuse still blows now as soon as I start the bike, so I gotta start taking the wire harness apart near the headlight I guess.

According to the wiring diagram in the 2012 work shop manual these are the items fed directly from the 10 amp fuse.


Front stop switch
Back stop switch
Blinker module then to the blinker switch
Horne switch
Headlight switch, high/low/passing


These items are fed with a G/BK wire (Green/ Black)

Here is the link to the work shop manual for the 2012 TE 449. I did not find one for the 2013.

http://www.endurofactory.nl/pdfs/2012/2012_WSM_TC-TE-TXC-SMR449-511.pdf

found it

Good job. That is one of the reasons I wrapped my exhaust.