1. Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Sweden - About 1988 and older

question on servicing '88 Husky forks...

Discussion in 'Vintage/Left Kickers' started by everfree, Feb 2, 2016.

  1. GaryM Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Austin, Tx
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1981 430cr second 430 CR 500cr
    Other Motorcycles:
    1981 490 Maico
    Really I believe the fiber ball hone just cleaned these old tubes from, oxidation, dirty oil film etc for the sleeve bearings to ride on.
    I also have a stone hone but did not want to remove much material. For example your Ohlin manual wants you to run a hone to clean and seat the new
    seals to the cylinder when rebuilding your rear shocks. have to a couple long extensions on hand.
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  2. everfree Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Bend, Oregon
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    86 430AE (2), 88 430AE, 87 430WR (2)
    Other Motorcycles:
    87 250 XC, 87 430 CR, '17 GG 300
    Here's a pic of my '88 fork tube. In '88 they also had a small bolt (see pic) that keeps the valve holes and tube holes aligned.
    If you modify your 86-87 fork tubes and valves you need to add the bolt... right?

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  3. everfree Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Bend, Oregon
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    86 430AE (2), 88 430AE, 87 430WR (2)
    Other Motorcycles:
    87 250 XC, 87 430 CR, '17 GG 300
    Just for comparison, here's my 87 fork tube w/ damping spindle (top) and 88 fork w/ damping spindle (lower).
    Notice the differences in damping components.

    The yellow spring and spacer are from the 87 250 I'm restoring. Does the yellow mean a certain spring rate?
    That's 70mm of spacer with a stock length spring! What does that tell you about who owned the bike and how he rode?


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  4. darren7878 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    79 CR390 and 84 CR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    81 Maico, 79 Kawasaki, 88 Honda
    On a similar subjet:

    Recently fitted new bushes , seals etc in two sets of 84 forks.

    One set I wire wooled the tubes in a lathe. cleaned them up to much. They look re cromed!

    Now the set with the cleaned tubes have a much smoother action than the other set!! :banana:

    Think I will take the other set apart again and repeat on them.
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  5. everfree Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Bend, Oregon
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    86 430AE (2), 88 430AE, 87 430WR (2)
    Other Motorcycles:
    87 250 XC, 87 430 CR, '17 GG 300
    I finished cleaning the '88 forks, put them back together and back on the bike last nite. I finished at 2am... when you're on a roll don't stop...
    I took the bike out for a test ride today... nice sunny weather for a change. The forks felt good, easy on the initial hit and compliant through the stroke. Not a long enough ride to tell, but I'm liking these '88 forks.
    Here's how I set them up for a baseline: green springs, 600 mm long, 25mm spacer for top of springs, and 450 mm of 7.5 wt fork oil. The 25mm spacer gives me static sag and 450mm of 7.5wt is a compromise just to see how for forks perform until I can really tune them for me.

    Here's the '88 430 WR with the new forks.
    After riding this 430 again, I have a smile on my face.

    The 430 is a great motor. Tons of torque at all RPM and super throttle response. You want to move quick and scare yourself? Twist that throttle a little! Love it.
    This motor is a brute, of all the 430's I have, I think this has the freshest motor.
    It is super quick and strong. You really have to watch your throttle work. Just idling you can tell this motor has scary power. You can feel it between your legs waiting to explode out!
    All hail the mighty 430 ! IMHO, Husky's finest motor.

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  6. hva-factory CH Sponsor

    Location:
    uk
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Husqvarna 510TE , 300WR Etc...
    Just one more thing to consider - and it is vitally important and not always obvious, is that if you pinch in (or spread out) the fork lowers, so they are not running perfectly parallel with the tubes - you will never get the fork action you are looking for. Undoing the bottom fork clamp and bouncing up and down is NOT the answer. Use a gauge between the legs and measure they are in line.

    Andy.
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  7. Chayzed Pilot Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    So Cal
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2004 TC450,1978 390CR,1983 430 Wr
    Other Motorcycles:
    A gaggle of them
    That's a good tip Andy and overlooked by lot's of folks.
  8. dartyppyt Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Illinois
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    17 TE 150, 82CR 500
    Other Motorcycles:
    82 125,250,430&500 79 390 83 250
    Notice my modern race bike.

    See it's 198mm dot to dot.

    You install the forks compressed relaxed, with out springs. Then mark the centers of your feet so there is no stiction. Measure between dots. You have to have axle in to square bottom feet. I usually use a tie down on axle to hold them compressed.

    Then to adjust fork height. Use axle and adjust height so axle spins without drag, without wheel on. Fully extended with springs and caps on.

    Then when you are all done. Put your fork oil in and you are set for good.



    I learned this from Husky pro riders in late 70's.

    Attached Files:

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  9. Comicstrip Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Belgium
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Husky WR430 1988
    Other Motorcycles:
    Moto Guzzi California 1976
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    Hello dear Husky lovers,

    I'm resurrecting this thread;

    I own a WR430 1988 since...1988, still first owner
    Left unattended for about 16 years, shame on me, I know, and decided to put it back on the trail 3 weeks ago.
    An in depth maintenance, by the way, was still in extremely good condition, and running again like a charm.

    But I have a front fork problem;
    At extension, lets say when the front wheel is getting into the air, I can hear a “Klonk”, seems that the fork is extending to the stop without any restriction.
    I tried 450 ml of 5W and 450 ml of 10W with the same result.

    Worth to be notice, on my previous 1983 WR430, the same problem was solved by replacing the top off washer (part # 15 12 487-01) but this fork have the '88 sliding seal.

    Ideas are welcome,

    Thkx !

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  10. everfree Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Bend, Oregon
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    86 430AE (2), 88 430AE, 87 430WR (2)
    Other Motorcycles:
    87 250 XC, 87 430 CR, '17 GG 300
    Comicstrip,
    Maybe nothing is dampening the spring action - no dampening?

    Have you have disassembled and cleaned the forks, not just changed the oil ? After 16 years they would need a complete service.
    I would disassemble the forks again and use the 1988 Owners Manual instructions to carefully reassemble.
    Are the damping valves (15 12-449-01) free to slide inside the dampening spindle?
    Are the damping rings (15 12-452-01) facing the right direction -- cone pointing up?
    Are the damping holes in the tube lined up with the bushing holes by using the bolt (15 12-492-01)
    I would replace the topping sliding seals, my worn seals caused the forks to bind - striction.
  11. 2premo Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NV
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    98 WR360, 1987 WR430, 1988 XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 300, 2002 KTM 380EXC
    they still use a similar top out washer
  12. justintendo klotz super techniplate junkie

    Location:
    mercer, pa/northwest pa
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    84 250,86 400,87 430,88 250,95 360
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 kawasaki zrx 1100
    the top out washer performs a different function on the 87-88 forks, but they are still present. these forks have "top out springs"..have you pulled the forks all the way down for a good cleaning and inspection? healthy upper and lower bushings seem to make a difference in these forks too
  13. Comicstrip Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Belgium
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Husky WR430 1988
    Other Motorcycles:
    Moto Guzzi California 1976
    Gentlemen,


    Sorry for my late reply, I'm on the road for work and thank you for dropping some ideas on my fork problem.
    I put the fork apart and cleaned everything I could clean.
    Everfree, you made a good point, I was not able to unscrew the endplug (15 12-444-01) to clean all parts attached to it.
    Reading your comment, I will definitively put everything apart again and put more efforts / motivation on that one.

    Damping rings should have been mounted correctly but I will double check for sure.
    Same situation for damping holes.

    That was also my idea to replace the topping sliding seals but, so far, my internet research have been unsuccessful to find new ones.


    Now, I'm 6000 Km away from my fork and I will have to wait 5 weeks before getting my hands back in the grease.

    I will get back to you with feedback as soon as I stripped the fork.

    Thkx again everfree, 2premo and Justintendo for your help and comments,
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  14. Comicstrip Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Belgium
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Husky WR430 1988
    Other Motorcycles:
    Moto Guzzi California 1976
    I'm finally close to my fork and disassembled it again and you were right !, I've found 2 wrong things ;

    The rebound valve (15 12 449-01) was a bit sticky and lazy, probably half stuck by old oil. A good cleaning solved this

    The last idiot who put that fork apart reinstalled wrongly the dampering ring (15 12 452-01)..BTW , I was that idiot...

    ..and everything is working like a charm now !

    Thkx again for all your input :)
  15. everfree Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Bend, Oregon
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    86 430AE (2), 88 430AE, 87 430WR (2)
    Other Motorcycles:
    87 250 XC, 87 430 CR, '17 GG 300

    Yeah! Glad to hear the forks are working good.
    Happy riding.
  16. oldbikedude Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Honey Brook Pa.
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1988 wr 430 with cr suspension
    Other Motorcycles:
    66flh,67 CA77,76 CR125M,73H1,74ty250
    87/88 husky's rule....lol....I have one. (had two)
  17. everfree Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Bend, Oregon
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    86 430AE (2), 88 430AE, 87 430WR (2)
    Other Motorcycles:
    87 250 XC, 87 430 CR, '17 GG 300
    Yes, the 87 / 88's rule! Best of the Swedes.
    Pretty easy to work on too.
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  18. suprize Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Bendigo, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    WR 400, bike in a box Moto Villa 350
    Other Motorcycles:
    ktm 300
    comicstrip, if I was you I would replace the engine seals as soon as you can (if you haven't already). while they are working now, they will most likely fail at an inconvenient place which will be as far away from home as possible...(from murphys laws on muddaboik riding).

    they are 16 years in the no go and while everything else is pretty bullet proof, the main engine seals are a risk. even if you just replace the stator side, its cheap insurance over a full throttle seize.