1. 2 Stroke Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Italy - About 1989 to 2014
    WR = 2st Enduro & CR = 2st Cross

250-500cc Overheating 360

Discussion in '2 Stroke' started by 2premo, Feb 16, 2017.

  1. 2premo Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NV
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    98 WR360, 1987 WR430, 1988 XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 300, 2002 KTM 380EXC
    My top end was in need of rings as they were pretty worn
    replaced the piston and rings, the new one was .0018 larger, my guess wear
    set squish at 2.67, book calls for 2.6mm, figure thats close enough
    assembled added coolant, now it runs WAY hot, boiling radiator hot
    are these engines that critical on piston size

    any thoughts what I missed :confused::banghead:
  2. shawbagga Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Eaton, Western Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    None
    Other Motorcycles:
    2018 Gasgas XC250
    Got coolant flow?
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  3. juicypips Husqvarna
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    Location:
    gloucestershire
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    wr 360. 2002
    Other Motorcycles:
    Gas Gas TxT 300, Yamaha wr250f
    No my squish is half of what the book recommended, no over heating.
    Did you add coolent or just reuse the old stuff?
    It's unlikely that you've got an air lock.

    Like shawry said you do have flow.
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  4. jo360 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    perth australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1983 exc framed wr430 engine
    Other Motorcycles:
    ktm 520exc
    1.2mm would be the ideal, if the piston/ring have been heat cycled then i would recommend checking seals and piston.
    Piston for scuff marks and seals for water/air ingress, with the engine running do you get air bubbles at the filler neck?.
    Last thing would be crank seals and jetting new piston means higher vacuum so might be leaning out pulling air through seals or gaskets.
    Just a thought but if you have an inline thermostat then remove it and recheck.
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  5. 2premo Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NV
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    98 WR360, 1987 WR430, 1988 XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 300, 2002 KTM 380EXC
    thanks for the replies
    yes I had coolant flow
    no it was new coolant
    the spark plug was a bit dark but reasonable, so not a vacuum leak
    no inline thermostat this year model
    these are all good things to check,, so thanks

    the power was ok when I first took off but faded after about 10-15 minutes
    I stopped to see what was going on, it was hot, not riding hard, and on flat ground
    checked the coolant and flow, started again, started up a little hill, within a few seconds it ran low on power
    stopped let it cool, went back to my truck
    another day tried it again,,, same results only sooner
    coolant stays full, been sitting for 3 months, just getting around to it
    it is baffling me for sure
    George Earl did the engine about 14 years ago, I bought it right after, it has been super reliable and good power
    so I looked it all over and refitted the original piston for squish check, almost identical, .004 less squish, not enough to change anything
    the rings had an .027 end gap, .019 is the outer limit .003-.005 is fresh, so they definitely needed to be replaced
  6. rancher1 Husqvarna
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    Location:
    WA
    I know a guy that had this same problem, it turned out his exhaust packing was plugging when the exhaust flow increased.
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  7. 2premo Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NV
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    98 WR360, 1987 WR430, 1988 XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 300, 2002 KTM 380EXC
    theres something to consider
    talked to George Earl today he said since he rebuilt it 14 years ago fuel has definitely changed
    plan to reassemble, add a racing type fuel and probably check packing on sparky
  8. Dirtdame Administrator

    Location:
    Rock Springs Wy
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    11 WR300,13 WR125,18 FE501
    Other Motorcycles:
    17 Beta Xtrainer
    When my bikes have overheated and boiled under mild operating conditions all of a sudden, it was because the cooling system lost pressure, either because the radiator cap was not holding the pressure anymore or a radiator had a crack or hole in it. Just sayin'.....
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  9. jo360 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    perth australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1983 exc framed wr430 engine
    Other Motorcycles:
    ktm 520exc
    Wonder if the original piston was cast and the bore done to suit minimal expansion, new forged with tighter clearance may be getting caught when fully up to temperature.
  10. 2premo Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NV
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    98 WR360, 1987 WR430, 1988 XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 300, 2002 KTM 380EXC


    both pistons are OEM, same casting numbers
  11. 2premo Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NV
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    98 WR360, 1987 WR430, 1988 XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 300, 2002 KTM 380EXC
    now to make matters worse took my 99 360 out riding and it needs some serious work
    have a vibration and lack of power, might be tied but need to troubleshoot
    Lectron acts like it's not getting fuel sometimes and has a vibration that numbed my feet, sounds like clutch area noise, pull the lever and it goes away
    aaaagh, down to 2 bikes now, guess some serious maintenance or repairs are in my near future
  12. 2premo Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NV
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    98 WR360, 1987 WR430, 1988 XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 300, 2002 KTM 380EXC


    cap tests fine
  13. 2premo Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NV
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    98 WR360, 1987 WR430, 1988 XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 300, 2002 KTM 380EXC
    anybody ever have what seems like a fuel starvation issue with a Lectron :confused:
  14. jo360 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    perth australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1983 exc framed wr430 engine
    Other Motorcycles:
    ktm 520exc
    Grasping at straws same fuel in both? Low octane produces heat and the vibration on the second bike may also lead to aerating the fuel bowl mixture leading to a lean condition.
  15. 2premo Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NV
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    98 WR360, 1987 WR430, 1988 XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 300, 2002 KTM 380EXC
    on the 99 360 I went riding with dirt dame last month and at the end of the ride it started
    didn't think much of it,, figured I was low on fuel, turns out there was almost a gallon left in the tank
    so they are separate issues, guess I should have started a new thread on that one
    my apologies
  16. jo360 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    perth australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1983 exc framed wr430 engine
    Other Motorcycles:
    ktm 520exc
    Check reeds and stator /pick up before tearing into them, hope its something simple presume usual suspects have been checked (kill switch,ignition wiring connectors, spark plug, fuel filter, tank and carb vent lines).
  17. 2premo Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NV
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    98 WR360, 1987 WR430, 1988 XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 300, 2002 KTM 380EXC
    yes I was thinking reeds too, ignition is recent, kill switch new, spark plug normal, fuel filter is in the petcock, bought a new one
    tank vent is new and it's a Lectron carb so no vents as we think of them
    that said pulling carb to check internal screen
    all good things to look at,, thanks :thumbsup:
  18. juicypips Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    gloucestershire
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    wr 360. 2002
    Other Motorcycles:
    Gas Gas TxT 300, Yamaha wr250f
    The lectron does have two vent lines. Just check they are not gummed up with dirt or grease.
    Sounds like a thorough going over the motor is required.
    May find your exhaust is blocked, reeds gone and crank case is sucking in air.

    Lol
    Good luck.
    Let us know your findings.