1. Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Sweden - About 1988 and older

One hole too many

Discussion in 'Vintage/Left Kickers' started by Brad-in-STL, Feb 24, 2017.

  1. ajcmbrown Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Metung Victoria Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    400WR 250WR 07 WR500 430AE 360AE
    Other Motorcycles:
    1985 500CR Ducati Multistrada 1200S
    I was lucky enough to find the same damage to my clutch basket ring gear on my 1988 400, I replaced it with a good second hand basket as I couldn't convince myself that it wouldn't keep on putting metal through the gearbox.
    Tony.
  2. Brad-in-STL Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Greater St Louis Area
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '80 390 WR
    Other Motorcycles:
    '79 XR185, '81CR125, '07 Ducati ST3

    Premo, Here is a pic of the hole from the inside.

    Please send me the title to the thread. My search came back with lots of good discussions, but none specifically on my "notched" gear.

    Attached Files:

  3. Brad-in-STL Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Greater St Louis Area
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '80 390 WR
    Other Motorcycles:
    '79 XR185, '81CR125, '07 Ducati ST3
    Good point! :thinking: I'll start looking.
  4. ajcmbrown Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Metung Victoria Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    400WR 250WR 07 WR500 430AE 360AE
    Other Motorcycles:
    1985 500CR Ducati Multistrada 1200S
    I'm not sure if this is the thread that 2premo was thinking of?

    http://www.cafehusky.com/threads/88-400wr-clutch-basket.80994/

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  5. Brad-in-STL Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Greater St Louis Area
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '80 390 WR
    Other Motorcycles:
    '79 XR185, '81CR125, '07 Ducati ST3
    Thanks Tony! That must be the one. What do you think caused the damage in your case?
  6. 2premo Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NV
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    98 WR360, 1987 WR430, 1988 XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 300, 2002 KTM 380EXC
  7. 2premo Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NV
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    98 WR360, 1987 WR430, 1988 XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 300, 2002 KTM 380EXC
    if you want to change it out, count your teeth on the basket, I have a really nice one
    if interested PM me
  8. ajcmbrown Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Metung Victoria Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    400WR 250WR 07 WR500 430AE 360AE
    Other Motorcycles:
    1985 500CR Ducati Multistrada 1200S
    I think it was an incorrectly assembled kick starter that caused the damage, but if you read the thread it explains it as well as I could at the time.
    My primary and clutch were 33/76 from memory. Yours may be very different.
    Tony.
  9. Brad-in-STL Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Greater St Louis Area
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '80 390 WR
    Other Motorcycles:
    '79 XR185, '81CR125, '07 Ducati ST3

    Sorry, I saw the great write up you did when I finally read the rest of the thread. I'll have to be careful on disassembly, so I put it back together correctly. I'm still trying to figure out how much to remove from the cover to avoid all the heat damage from getting the welding done... :thinking:
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  10. 2premo Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NV
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    98 WR360, 1987 WR430, 1988 XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 300, 2002 KTM 380EXC


    there are a number of threads on the kickstart issues, that is a BIGGIE with these 82-88 kickstarter design, very important to get the spring and pawl set up correct
    take a hard look at your pawl while you have it open
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  11. jimspac Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Connecticut
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    82 250WR, 82 430WR, 84 250WR, 85 400
    Other Motorcycles:
    86 400WR, 82 Montesa Cota 349
    JB is excellent when surfaces are prepped properly prepared and the JB is sealed with epoxy if the gloss has been broken. If the gloss is broke, JB will absorb oil or what ever liquid is present and start to soften.
  12. Eric The Leg Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Currently Tacoma, WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1986 WR400, 1985 WRX400, 1979 WR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    83 Kawasaki KZ 440
    If you search for my thread "Another WRX saved from the scrap heap" someone linked the Huskydoggg video on Pawl assembly on that thread (towards the later half).

    Since the bike is new to you, there are two roller bearings under the clutch cover that most guys recommend replacing (kicker gear and idler gear). the kicker gear spring will basically fall out of the bike, so if you've got a good bearing shop locally, they likely have it or can recommend how to find two. The bearings are sold by ID, OD and Length, so you'll want to mic the kicker shaft OD and gear ID (or take those parts with you, in my experience, if you're not familiar to the bearing shop, they may want to mic the parts themselves). The kicker gear and idler gear both take the same size bearing. It'll probably mic a little bit shorter than it's list length.

    Previously stated, but that is a mag cover. You can get cast aluminum replacement from HVA Factory, but the cost is up there. If you look at the pic of the cover on their site, you can see the extra hole in the cover near the kicker. It's not a problem to put an aluminum cover with the extra hole on the bike (but if you are able to get it repaired, and don't have particular concerns over appearance, I'm right with you on fixing the cover).

    The mag covers do sometimes wear around the kicker shaft, so make sure it's a tight fit (doesn't wobble). I sent a mag cover to Rick Hovart (Husqvarna-outlet) to get that hole sleeved, and fix a hole in the cover last year, but he did take almost 9 months to get it back to me. Maybe he's less behind now? A machinist friend can probably sleeve the cover for you if you need it.

    The shifter and water pump line up with the little lines on their related stubs on the engine side. That can be a pain for getting things lined up when putting it together! If you can't get the gap to close, you may need to spin the impeller and/or shifter slightly until you find a match. Probably a good idea to replace the bearing and seal for the water pump. If the wrong coolant has been used, the pump seat may have corrosion.
    Also, the shift return spring can become sprung. When putting the cover on there's a hole in the gasket that corresponds with the rod coming out of the lower rear portion of the clutch cover. The legs of the shift return spring should be clear of that hole when the bike is in neutral.

    Don't over-tighten your clutch.

    There, that's about everything I've ever screwed up on my own clutch covers. Hope it helps!.
  13. Brad-in-STL Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Greater St Louis Area
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '80 390 WR
    Other Motorcycles:
    '79 XR185, '81CR125, '07 Ducati ST3
    Wow. Lots of good info there. Thanks! Always good to learn from another's experiences.

    Finally got back in the garage and pulled the basket out. It's 17/076. See below:

    Attached Files:

  14. Brad-in-STL Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Greater St Louis Area
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '80 390 WR
    Other Motorcycles:
    '79 XR185, '81CR125, '07 Ducati ST3

    I've decided to try the JB weld fix first. I'll post an update when completed.

    Thanks for all the replies!
  15. 2premo Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NV
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    98 WR360, 1987 WR430, 1988 XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 300, 2002 KTM 380EXC
    that appears to be an 85 CR500 4 speed clutch basket
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  16. 2premo Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NV
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    98 WR360, 1987 WR430, 1988 XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 300, 2002 KTM 380EXC
    measure the OD of the kicker gear on your basket
  17. Brad-in-STL Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Greater St Louis Area
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '80 390 WR
    Other Motorcycles:
    '79 XR185, '81CR125, '07 Ducati ST3

    Looks like it's 50.74 mm, give or take a few hundredths depending on where measured.
  18. Brad-in-STL Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Greater St Louis Area
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '80 390 WR
    Other Motorcycles:
    '79 XR185, '81CR125, '07 Ducati ST3
    Also, can anyone steer me to the thread for torque values for this '85 400 motor, for when I start to button it up?

    Thanks in advance.
  19. Brad-in-STL Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Greater St Louis Area
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '80 390 WR
    Other Motorcycles:
    '79 XR185, '81CR125, '07 Ducati ST3
    Suprize, are you saying the bike is designed so that the clutch cover is the stop for the kicker?
  20. 2premo Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NV
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    98 WR360, 1987 WR430, 1988 XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 300, 2002 KTM 380EXC

    what he is saying you don't need to remove them
    but the kicker if removed allows the spring to unwind, which requires a proper set up on pawl and pre wind of spring